2021-2022 expectations

[B-town hoopsfan]

With Minnesota, PSU, and Indiana looking like a mess.  

Northwestern losing Kopp. 

 

Wisconsin losing all 5 starter plus possibly having some program issues.

 

Rutgers losing geo baker and Myles Johnson.

 

 Maryland possibly looking for a new coach.

 

Combined with attrition from other top teams in the league finishing in the top half of the BIG seems within reach doesn’t it?

[HuskerFever]

I'd probably realistically shoot for 8-12, but why not aim high?

 

What you saw this season was a 14-team league where only 1 program was in the rebuilding stage. Now we won't be the only program trying to find a foothold in this conference. So things will certainly be different next season.

[jimmykc]

What B-town mentions plus the league's showing this year will automatically lead to the perception by the pundits that next year will be a "down" one for the Big Ten. Therefore, Nebraska will have to finish in the top three just to be invited to the NCAA tourney.

[hhcmatt]

[Art Vandalay]

41 minutes ago, B-town hoopsfan said:

With Minnesota, PSU, and Indiana looking like a mess.  

Northwestern losing Kopp. 

 

Wisconsin losing all 5 starter plus possibly having some program issues.

 

Rutgers losing geo baker and Myles Johnson.

 

 Maryland possibly looking for a new coach.

 

Combined with attrition from other top teams in the league finishing in the top half of the BIG seems within reach doesn’t it?

 
I think 6-10 range should be a realistic goal depending on how we fill out and what those other programs with all the turnover pull together 

[Handy Johnson]

If we don’t finish at LEAST.500 I’m selling off all my Creighton “Big East Champs” swag... 

[kldm64]

NU basketball fans need to stop having a defeatist attitude and low expectations.  I see other schools that don't have our budget, facilities, conference and have better programs.  There is no reason NU cannot and should not be competitive in basketball. With what NU has coming back next year, I will be extremely disappointed if we don't finish in the top half of the conference with a winning conference record.

[Fullbacksympathy]

Bubble.  I would like to be nervous at the end of the season and for every game to matter.  

[HuskerFever]

20 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

NU basketball fans need to stop having a defeatist attitude and low expectations.

 

It may be possible that we have different definitions of "expectations."

 

Do I hope we can put together a cohesive squad, run through the Big Ten gauntlet with a top 7 finish? Absolutely. And my flight will already be booked after Selection Sunday.

 

Based on the information we have now, do I expect us to finish 7th? No.

[Dead Dog Alley]

2 hours ago, jimmykc said:

What B-town mentions plus the league's showing this year will automatically lead to the perception by the pundits that next year will be a "down" one for the Big Ten. Therefore, Nebraska will have to finish in the top three just to be invited to the NCAA tourney.

 

Make that, win the Big Ten Tournament.  If Nebraska goes 16-4 in conference play they are guaranteed nothing but a probable 3 seed in the NIT.

[hhcmatt]

44 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

NU basketball fans need to stop having a defeatist attitude and low expectations.  I see other schools that don't have our budget, facilities, conference and have better programs.  There is no reason NU cannot and should not be competitive in basketball. With what NU has coming back next year, I will be extremely disappointed if we don't finish in the top half of the conference with a winning conference record.

 

Outcomes shape fan expectation and attitude.  Does attitude or expectation determine outcomes? Like, if I think we're going 18-12 next year instead of 12-18 are we going to win more games?

 

Previously your post was essentially code for 'we need to fire someone if we don't win'.  Who needs to go if we don't win in the Hoiberg era?

[Crush78]

My expectation is we don't play on Wednesday in the B1G tourney. 

[tcp]

I'll be happy if we're up to 10th at least. That's my minimum expectation. I think 7 or 8 is probably a bridge too far, but it's not like it's totally crack-induced. 

[Minnesota_Husker]

My expectation is we don't play on Wednesday in the B1G tourney. 

WE ARE GOING TO BE SO BAD WE DONT EVEN GET INVITED?


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[kldm64]

51 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Outcomes shape fan expectation and attitude.  Does attitude or expectation determine outcomes? Like, if I think we're going 18-12 next year instead of 12-18 are we going to win more games?

 

Previously your post was essentially code for 'we need to fire someone if we don't win'.  Who needs to go if we don't win in the Hoiberg era?

 

I'm sorry if my previous post was read as we need to fire someone.  I don't think that is the case at all.  Just the opposite as think Fred is putting a very impressive team.  I agree outcomes shape expectation but the football has been bad for 10 years now but the expectations hasn't dropped.  Fans still expect us to win conference championships.  I think it's time we started expected the same thing in basketball.  Just because we haven't done it before, doesn't mean it can't happen or should be expected to happen.

[B-town hoopsfan]

1 hour ago, HuskerFever said:

 

It may be possible that we have different definitions of "expectations."

 

Do I hope we can put together a cohesive squad, run through the Big Ten gauntlet with a top 7 finish? Absolutely. And my flight will already be booked after Selection Sunday.

 

Based on the information we have now, do I expect us to finish 7th? No.

If we are able to pack the vault I would hope to go something like 11-9 in conference play 

[Cazzie22]

I just want to see more improved play without lapses every game and consistent effort each and every game.  Will that result in a middle of the pack finish? One can only hope.

[HuskerFever]

1 hour ago, kldm64 said:

 

I'm sorry if my previous post was read as we need to fire someone.  I don't think that is the case at all.  Just the opposite as think Fred is putting a very impressive team.  I agree outcomes shape expectation but the football has been bad for 10 years now but the expectations hasn't dropped.  Fans still expect us to win conference championships.  I think it's time we started expected the same thing in basketball.  Just because we haven't done it before, doesn't mean it can't happen or should be expected to happen.

 

Here's one way you can help align expectations onto the program, especially if you're a VIP donor (see: Mark Cuban, dictating the expectations for the Indiana basketball program):

 

https://huskersathleticfund.com/membership-levels-and-benefits/index.html

 

Outside of that, my individual expectations for the program have very little bearing on what the department sets as their annual performance goals. I can always expect more from this program every season, but I'm not writing the checks.

[JBARGIE]

Someone will need to step up and be “the guy” in order for this to be a tournament team.  Terran Petteway willed his team to the tournament and we need someone with that type of attitude next year. I think the obvious choice is Trey. I hope he has a monster senior year and shows this stellar recruiting class what it takes to win in the Big Ten so we can keep it rolling into 2022-23.

[hhcmatt]

2 hours ago, kldm64 said:

 

I'm sorry if my previous post was read as we need to fire someone.  I don't think that is the case at all.  Just the opposite as think Fred is putting a very impressive team.  I agree outcomes shape expectation but the football has been bad for 10 years now but the expectations hasn't dropped.  Fans still expect us to win conference championships.  I think it's time we started expected the same thing in basketball.  Just because we haven't done it before, doesn't mean it can't happen or should be expected to happen.

 

I don't think you're asking for anyone to be fired. What I'm saying is that I think you're using the sort of rhetoric used to justify firing someone and I'm pointing out that without any sort of threat of action that it's somewhat meaningless. Hoiberg has the only 20 loss seasons in Nebraska history and the vibe here is that things will get better and we're fortunate to have him, which is amazing when you consider that almost any other guy would be on the hot seat.

[Go Big Fred]

Depends on how the rest of transfer season shapes out, I would be happy with 6-8 wins as the team is currently constructed

[hhcmatt]

47 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

 

I'm sorry if my previous post was read as we need to fire someone.  I don't think that is the case at all.  Just the opposite as think Fred is putting a very impressive team.  I agree outcomes shape expectation but the football has been bad for 10 years now but the expectations hasn't dropped.  Fans still expect us to win conference championships.  I think it's time we started expected the same thing in basketball.  Just because we haven't done it before, doesn't mean it can't happen or should be expected to happen.

 

I don't think you're asking for anyone to be fired. What I'm saying is that I think you're using the same sort of rhetoric eventually used to justify firing someone and I'm pointing out that without any sort of threat of action that it's somewhat meaningless. Hoiberg has the only two 20 loss seasons in school history and the optimism level is relatively high. I think he's going to do it to so I don't mind this a bit.

[49r]

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

 

I don't think you're asking for anyone to be fired. What I'm saying is that I think you're using the sort of rhetoric used to justify firing someone and I'm pointing out that without any sort of threat of action that it's somewhat meaningless. Hoiberg has the only 20 loss seasons in Nebraska history and the vibe here is that things will get better and we're fortunate to have him, which is amazing when you consider that almost any other guy would be on the hot seat.

 

You can say that again!

 

11 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

I don't think you're asking for anyone to be fired. What I'm saying is that I think you're using the same sort of rhetoric eventually used to justify firing someone and I'm pointing out that without any sort of threat of action that it's somewhat meaningless. Hoiberg has the only two 20 loss seasons in school history and the optimism level is relatively high. I think he's going to do it to so I don't mind this a bit.

 

[hskr4life]

4 hours ago, Go Big Fred said:

Depends on how the rest of transfer season shapes out, I would be happy with 6-8 wins as the team is currently constructed

I’d assume you’re talking 6-8 conference wins and not overall?

[Go Big Fred]

On 3/26/2021 at 11:08 PM, hskr4life said:

I’d assume you’re talking 6-8 conference wins and not overall?

That would be correct