Keisei watch

[hhctony]

22 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Neither "Not so Sharp" Sharp nor "3 Sheets to the Wind" Shatel know what they are talking about...period.

If there is a player that is wanted by our coaches we have enough to be very competitive. We are also not going to get into a bidding war for a 5* player. There is a certain amount of financial responsibility that has to go into NIL. 

 

I am kind of starting to wonder if you DON'T want to do this to build a good, quality, consistent program. Starting throwing money and guys and they are start running the program. But get good, solid players in here that appreciate and get what Fred is doing and wants to build and you have something. 

[Ron Mexico]

1 minute ago, hhctony said:

 

I am kind of starting to wonder if you DON'T want to do this to build a good, quality, consistent program. Starting throwing money and guys and they are start running the program. But get good, solid players in here that appreciate and get what Fred is doing and wants to build and you have something. 

Nailed it. I don't want anymore one and done or ego players. I want us to build something that is sustainable with good kids that are also solid players who get what HCFH is doing and are willing to sacrifice their individual accolades in order to win. I want us to be able to survive losing an assistant coach because the next assistant coach who comes in will be able to be a part of the culture. I also want to build so that way we can survive losing HCFH if he where to step down do to health concerns. This is a real concern of mine.

 

I believe that we are going to be a program on the rise as kids will get to play in a system that is fun where everyone contributes and scores, and that we go deep into our bench. Right now we have 8 guys who have played a total of 550+ minutes this season. We have only 2 players who average more than 25 min/game. I believe we will be a magnet for athletic big men who can shoot and don't just want to play with their back to the basket for an entire game.

 

To be clear that doesn't mean I'd turn down the opportunity for 4/5 star players under the right set of circumstances. I just don't want to lose our soul to get them. I also know that we need to bring in talent next year to keep this going as we will no longer be the hunter but the hunted. 

[Ron Mexico]

29 minutes ago, OmahaHusker said:

 

Especially when your bread winner program is trying to get back to championship-caliber. DR's NIL deal alone could pay for a solid basketball team.

Isn't that the truth, however the QB is the most important position in any team sport on every level. Those guys are going to get paid. Our football program is the lifeblood of our entire athletic program and this state. We get back to championship level in football that is also good for our basketball program. Bringing in BBall recruits to football games when we are good again is huge, and vice-versa for BBall. Imagine football recruits being at either the Wisconsin or Purdue type games. Imagine BBall recruits going to see us play USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon/Michigan/tOSU/PSU, not Iowa though because that game is always cold as heck.

[NUdiehard]

4 hours ago, hhctony said:

 

I am kind of starting to wonder if you DON'T want to do this to build a good, quality, consistent program. Starting throwing money and guys and they are start running the program. But get good, solid players in here that appreciate and get what Fred is doing and wants to build and you have something. 

 

I think I get what you are thinking, but not sure I agree with the logic.  The first step for ANY recruit coming to UNL is getting the nod of approval from the the coaching staff, including HCFH.  Although Fred made mistakes in his first 3 years (mostly trusting he who shall not be named), most would agree he has learned his lesson and now knows exactly what type of players he wants (which I am assuming does NOT include primadonnas).  Thus, if HCFH is recruiting the player, I feel confident that recruit meets HCFH's criteria for what he wants on the team (which includes being a team player).  If this is the case, the next crucial step is securing the commitment from the athlete.  If NIL is a factor, then we should generally be able to make sure NU is in line with whatever other schools may be in the picture to make sure it is not the deciding factor.  And please don't say "well, if money is all that matters we don't want him anyway."  Who on this board, if they were interviewing for a job, would not at least give some weight to the salary/compensation offered by the different prospective employers.  

 

Plus, there are ways to pay significant NIL without it leading to the "recruits running the program."  For instance, it is my understanding that Creighton pays all of its starters the same amount (which his a pretty significant sum) and pays the non-starters the same amount.  This makes sense, because this would prevent any one player from being resentful of what another player is making.  There are other options along these lines that could be implemented.    

 

Last, I want someone who really knows to answer this question.  Is NU Hoops "total" NIL package this year as larger or larger than Creighton's total NIL package?  Anyone?  If the answer is no, then that is unacceptable.  

Edited March 13 by NUdiehard

[cornfed24-7]

1 hour ago, NUdiehard said:

Is NU Hoops "total" NIL package this year as larger or larger than Creighton's total NIL package?  Anyone?  If the answer is no, then that is unacceptable. 

I don't know about that. They seem to have an advantage considering the Creighton football team is considerably smaller. Pretty sure their fans don't even cheer for them. I'd bet my life on it that they cheer for a different football team. 

Edited March 13 by cornfed24-7

[Huskerpapa]

From a Creighton source...and this was from last season:

 

This probably belongs on the basketball board, but it certainly has applicability to football.

Creighton is putting all of its resources into basketball and trying to build a national brand, according to a very reliable source.

Current deal for EVERY scholarship basketball player, per year:

1. $75,000 cash
2. Condo
3. Car

NIL is total insanity. It is not sustainable and it certainly isn't fair. Even the NFL and NBA have rules on what teams can pay players.

[jason2486]

11 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

These are AI generated

Dang!

[AuroranHusker]

1 hour ago, jason2486 said:

Dang!

 

Haha, yeah, I would have bought that entire scene. lol

 

[Ron Mexico]

11 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

From a Creighton source...and this was from last season:

 

This probably belongs on the basketball board, but it certainly has applicability to football.

Creighton is putting all of its resources into basketball and trying to build a national brand, according to a very reliable source.

Current deal for EVERY scholarship basketball player, per year:

1. $75,000 cash
2. Condo
3. Car

NIL is total insanity. It is not sustainable and it certainly isn't fair. Even the NFL and NBA have rules on what teams can pay players.

Sounds about right.

I would like to add that there is NIL and then there is extra's that the athlete can do on their own without fear of the NCAA comming down on them, such as brand endorsements, advertisements, etc. plus plus plus social media. This is a big one as it allows athletes to profit directly off of the money they earn from their social media.

There is a D2 wrestler that I follow,  maybe I've mentioned him before, Cayden Henschel who has big Youtube channel where he does a  lot of brand sponsorships. Angel Reese has a monster size Instagram presence. One of the best parts of NIL is now these athletes get to earn money off of their name. 

 

Edited to Add More Context:

There are going to be players who aren't as focused on getting a huge NIL deal but rather they are thinking about their future and know that they can get a ton of exposure in a State like Nebraska at the flagship University. That exposure could be to increase social media presence, get into businesses. The sky is literally the limit.

I'm actually working on this right now with my son as he's a sophomore in HS and he wrestles. He did play on the freshman baseball team at HS as well, but has since quit so he can focus solely on wrestling. He wants to go to college. He's not a D1/D2 level, however we believe he can go to D3/NAIA, where scholarships and NIL are minimal to non-existent at best. Because of his unique circumstances, of which I don't want elaborate on yet,  he has the potential to capitalize on that. He can document his struggles, successes, college choices, etc. 

 

Edited March 13 by Ron Mexico

[AuroranHusker]

56 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Sounds about right.

I would like to add that there is NIL and then there is extra's that the athlete can do on their own without fear of the NCAA comming down on them, such as brand endorsements, advertisements, etc. plus plus plus social media. This is a big one as it allows athletes to profit directly off of the money they earn from their social media.

There is a D2 wrestler that I follow,  maybe I've mentioned him before, Cayden Henschel who has big Youtube channel where he does a  lot of brand sponsorships. Angel Reese has a monster size Instagram presence. One of the best parts of NIL is now these athletes get to earn money off of their name. 

 

Edited to Add More Context:

There are going to be players who aren't as focused on getting a huge NIL deal but rather they are thinking about their future and know that they can get a ton of exposure in a State like Nebraska at the flagship University. That exposure could be to increase social media presence, get into businesses. The sky is literally the limit.

I'm actually working on this right now with my son as he's a sophomore in HS and he wrestles. He did play on the freshman baseball team at HS as well, but has since quit so he can focus solely on wrestling. He wants to go to college. He's not a D1/D2 level, however we believe he can go to D3/NAIA, where scholarships and NIL are minimal to non-existent at best. Because of his unique circumstances, of which I don't want elaborate on yet,  he has the potential to capitalize on that. He can document his struggles, successes, college choices, etc. 

 

 

Whenever you can elaborate, I'd appreciate it. My 16 year old son is also a SOPH, yet he's been a soccer player for a very, very long time. He loves it, so much that he might even want to participate at the next level, albeit not likely at a big-time program, which is a-okay with me, I played small college hoops and absolutely loved every second of the experience. Anyhow, carry on, when you can share your son's plight, I'd be all ears. GBR Always.

[Huskerpapa]

WARNING...take this for what it's worth. I received this from an anonymous source.  No clue whether or not it has any validity.  Read on if you wish.

 

Keisei Tominaga Petitioning for another year

 

Heard from someone in the student service/housing that Keisei/University are petitioning for another year due to a hardship during his first year at JUCO surrounding the language barriers. Apparently there is a precedent from years ago involving an ice hockey player with a similar situation.

Keisei still not sure on what he wants to do it, but wants to keep the options open.

Edited March 26 by Huskerpapa

[cornfed24-7]

31 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

WARNING...take this for what it's worth. I received this from an anonymous source.  No clue whether or not it has any validity.  Read on if you wish.

 

Keisei Tominaga Petitioning for another year

 

Heard from someone in the student service/housing that Keisei/University are petitioning for another year due to a hardship during his first year at JUCO surrounding the language barriers. Apparently there is a precedent from years ago involving an ice hockey player with a similar situation.

Keisei still not sure on what he wants to do it, but wants to keep the options open.

 

[Nebrasketball1979]

28 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

WARNING...take this for what it's worth. I received this from an anonymous source.  No clue whether or not it has any validity.  Read on if you wish.

 

Keisei Tominaga Petitioning for another year

 

Heard from someone in the student service/housing that Keisei/University are petitioning for another year due to a hardship during his first year at JUCO surrounding the language barriers. Apparently there is a precedent from years ago involving an ice hockey player with a similar situation.

Keisei still not sure on what he wants to do it, but wants to keep the options open.

I would love to believe this is possible but I can't see how this argument would hold any weight.  He played significant time in both year's at JUCO and appears to have averaged 16+ points a game both seasons based off his Huskers.com bii.  He clearly seemed to have gotten a full five years of playing time.  Really hope there is a loophole to exploit but I am skeptical.

[Faux Mike Peltz]

This is gonna piss off some of the guys on Twitter who think we need to be done with him as he hurt us more than helped us 

[thrasher31]

55 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

WARNING...take this for what it's worth. I received this from an anonymous source.  No clue whether or not it has any validity.  Read on if you wish.

 

Keisei Tominaga Petitioning for another year

 

Heard from someone in the student service/housing that Keisei/University are petitioning for another year due to a hardship during his first year at JUCO surrounding the language barriers. Apparently there is a precedent from years ago involving an ice hockey player with a similar situation.

Keisei still not sure on what he wants to do it, but wants to keep the options open.

You just gave me hope. I don't want hope but I love hope 

[HuskerFever]

7 hours ago, thrasher31 said:

You just gave me hope. I don't want hope but I love hope 

 

The foundation of this entire basketball program has been built by hope.

[tcp]

(checks calendar....nope, still a few days off....)

[jayschool]

[aphilso1]

Brad Davison: Man I wish I could play college ball forever. Too bad it finally had to come to an end.

Grant Gibbs:  Yeah man, those were the days.

Keisei: Hold my sake.

Edited March 26 by aphilso1

[jason2486]

He should have a Covid year available since he was at JUCO during this time. 

[hskr4life]

Would be a national sports story if granted.

[hhcmatt]

3 minutes ago, jason2486 said:

He should have a Covid year available since he was at JUCO during this time. 

 

He's played 5 seasons as he played 2 years at Ranger

[tcp]

Have Nebraska's congressional delegation lobby for legislation that grants all Japanese nationals in college atheltics an added year of eleigibility as a gesture of goodwill and friendship. That's about the only idea I got left....

[jason2486]

10 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

He's played 5 seasons as he played 2 years at Ranger

Yes, but with guys petitioning for7th, 8th, and 9th years, I'm just being optimistic!

[hhcmatt]

13 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

WARNING...take this for what it's worth. I received this from an anonymous source.  No clue whether or not it has any validity.  Read on if you wish.

 

Keisei Tominaga Petitioning for another year

 

Heard from someone in the student service/housing that Keisei/University are petitioning for another year due to a hardship during his first year at JUCO surrounding the language barriers. Apparently there is a precedent from years ago involving an ice hockey player with a similar situation.

Keisei still not sure on what he wants to do it, but wants to keep the options open.

 

Brice if Keisei is back shooting from the logo