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uneblinst's postgame chatter: vol 16; ed 4 - Stony Brook


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Another one that we looked pretty ugly in at times.  A much more stiff test awaits in our next two.  Win the next two and you are staring at an undefeated CU vs NU matchup.  I know it's just one game, but I think we're starting to see our top 8 take shape...

 

Mast

Lawrence

Tominaga

Gary

Allick

Williams

Hoiberg

Wilcher

 

I see Coleman and Rice getting more spot minutes as we move forward.  

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The first half was not pretty but it was good for the team as it felt like a physical Big Ten game.  Tip of the cap to Stoney  Brook for playing their butts off.  They just ran out of gas. If the Frey kid ends up in the portal I would take him.  Good thing Gary played tonight.  Spacing, cutting and passing was good to see in the second half.

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- Stony Brook had some dudes, man. I wonder if they’ll make some noise in their conference? You can’t be “bad” with that guard play. And they had some serviceable size too. Well coached.
 

- Some maddening stuff to start the game but they got in a better rhythm eventually. 
 

- KT’s gotta let the game come to him more and be focused on the other stuff to start the game. You could see his teammates getting a little frustrated. 
 

- Well Gary looked nice… dang. That’s a new element. 
 

- Our dudes are menaces on the glass. Adding Gary just made us even more menacing. He and Allick are bash brother’s material. 
 

- Guys…. Is Mast a better passer than Walker?!?!? Walker will absolutely hit you when you’re open a cut - Mast made guys open on some cuts. He threw some “if you’re even you’re open” passes that were to tight windows. 
 

- These guys have got to realize that Fred’s offensive system works if you do what he asks you to do first, and then read and react based off what it gave you. They gotta cut harder, move it faster, screen better, and dudes are gonna be wiiiide open. Can’t just go through the motions with those initial weaves and passes - that’s where everything gets set up. 
 

- Speaking of screening: ghost screens are the worst thing to happen to basketball in the last five years. They can’t be the fundamental aspect of your offense. Set hard, decisive screens. Ghost 1/5 times. 

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Overall-- we beat the metrics with a 21 point win.  It seemed closer than it actually was.  I'm pretty sure they cut it to about 6-7 with 12 minutes left in the game.  A few big things on first watch...

 

Good:

- Gary was a welcome site back... and he learned how to shoot.  Looking forward to seeing how he fits in.  I think a starting lineup of Gary, Mast, Williams, KT, and JLaw would be interesting.

- Really nice spacing and cutting towards the rim.  If we don't settle for the 3... we could have scored 90+

- Another domination on the boards and another double digit offensive rebound night!

- KT appeared a little more comfortable moving tonight and not settling. 

 

Bad:
- Free throws again were bad bad bad.  Ended 10-17 but we started terrible.

- KT went 0-3 at the line.  That's unusual.

- 14 TO's again.  Have we had a game under 10?

 

Really interested in how Saturday goes!

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4 minutes ago, basketballjones said:

- Stony Brook had some dudes, man. I wonder if they’ll make some noise in their conference? You can’t be “bad” with that guard play. And they had some serviceable size too. Well coached.

 

It seems like every year our "cupcakes" end up being absolutely awful.  There's also respectable cupcakes that can somewhat help your numbers.  Maybe this is our year in the cupcake department to have some teams that end up respectable.  

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Nice win.  Each opponent has been a little better than the previous.  Good to work Gary back into the lineup and he showed flashes.  The lineup works best on offense when Mast is in the game.  Oregon St and Dusquesne will give us a clearer picture of what we are and hope to become.  I am still not sure what we have.

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19 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

It seems like every year our "cupcakes" end up being absolutely awful.  There's also respectable cupcakes that can somewhat help your numbers.  Maybe this is our year in the cupcake department to have some teams that end up respectable.  

We're gonna be hanging on every minute of late season Rider, Stony Brook games - praying for that sweet, sweet NET boost.

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I'm not going to say that Stonybrook was dirty, but they were very aggressive on defense with very quick, active hands, slapping at the ball on drives and getting away with what I thought was much more contact than we were allowed on the other end.

 

The Brice Williams PG experiment needs to come to an end. Other guys start calling their own number when one guy starts doing it. It's like @basketballjones said above, more eloquently than I've been saying it: We have to run our sh!t. That weave action gets the defense moving, shifting, switching, adjusting. It gets them off balance. That doesn't happen if you waive off your teammate and decide to take matters into your own hands.

 

Rotating Gary, Mast and Allick through the frontline, with the occasional Brice Williams, is a solid rotation up front.

 

I hope Gary can continue to shoot FG the way he did tonight. I hope he improves his FT shooting, though. And I'm confident Keisei is going to settle in and get back into the flow of things. It's just a matter of time.

 

That stretch where we pulled out to 16 and they cut it to 7 was a surreal stretch where they were hitting crazy shots that they might not make in any game again this season. They were just hoisting shit up and getting it to drop. If they're that good when they get into their conference play, they'll roll to a championship.

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2 hours ago, hskr4life said:

It seems like every year our "cupcakes" end up being absolutely awful.  There's also respectable cupcakes that can somewhat help your numbers.  Maybe this is our year in the cupcake department to have some teams that end up respectable.  

 

Sure, but you also want to beat those cupcakes. I won't say the incarnate word, but some of those cupcakes still haunt us to this day.

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2 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

I'm not going to say that Stonybrook was dirty, but they were very aggressive on defense with very quick, active hands, slapping at the ball on drives and getting away with what I thought was much more contact than we were allowed on the other end.

 

The Brice Williams PG experiment needs to come to an end. Other guys start calling their own number when one guy starts doing it. It's like @basketballjones said above, more eloquently than I've been saying it: We have to run our sh!t. That weave action gets the defense moving, shifting, switching, adjusting. It gets them off balance. That doesn't happen if you waive off your teammate and decide to take matters into your own hands.

 

Rotating Gary, Mast and Allick through the frontline, with the occasional Brice Williams, is a solid rotation up front.

 

I hope Gary can continue to shoot FG the way he did tonight. I hope he improves his FT shooting, though. And I'm confident Keisei is going to settle in and get back into the flow of things. It's just a matter of time.

 

That stretch where we pulled out to 16 and they cut it to 7 was a surreal stretch where they were hitting crazy shots that they might not make in any game again this season. They were just hoisting shit up and getting it to drop. If they're that good when they get into their conference play, they'll roll to a championship.


They were definitely chippy and got away with a lot of slaps/bumps. They also were not afraid of the deep 3, dang. I hope those that asked about Brice’s intensity saw it tonight. He got a little fired up at 21 (they exchanged some elbows at one point) and came out and lit them up in the 2nd half, great overall stat line. If we get 2nd half Brice more often than not we will be tough. I don’t mind him as a change of pace initiator at all either.

 

i also think we are going to see a 9 man rotation. Don’t think he can sit Sam with his energy or Boogie as he seems to be the back up PG. Guess those two and CJ’s minutes might fluctuate depending on the game and what we need but all three will get regular minutes. Wish there was more for Rice as well but don’t see 10.

 

Hope Keisei settles in and does more cutting and no forcing 3s. Also the second game he did not go hard after a loose ball on the floor which was concerning.

 

Overall happy with this one.

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2 minutes ago, Art Vandalay said:


They were definitely chippy and got away with a lot of slaps/bumps. They also were not afraid of the deep 3, dang. I hope those that asked about Brice’s intensity saw it tonight. He got a little fired up at 21 (they exchanged some elbows at one point) and came out and lit them up in the 2nd half, great overall stat line. If we get 2nd half Brice more often than not we will be tough. I don’t mind him as a change of pace initiator at all either.

 

i also think we are going to see a 9 man rotation. Don’t think he can sit Sam with his energy or Boogie as he seems to be the back up PG. Guess those two and CJ’s minutes might fluctuate depending on the game and what we need but all three will get regular minutes. Wish there was more for Rice as well but don’t see 10.

 

Hope Keisei settles in and does more cutting and no forcing 3s. Also the second game he did not go hard after a loose ball on the floor which was concerning.

 

Overall happy with this one.

Umm, coming off a sprained ankle injury, you really think the coaching and training staff advised him to do that?  I was sitting in the third row in front of the play you were referring to tonight. If Keisei dives in there for that loose ball and gets tangled up and re injures his ankle, everyone would be groaning about how he needed to be smarter. I personally am not concerned about KT at all. I would like Brice to be smarter against the zone, he forced two straight passes into turnovers in the second half, which allowed Stoneybrook some conversions. Also, Coleman had a bad turnover but got yanked right after that. I think Rice’s minutes are going to be pretty limited down the stretch

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Notes from UNL

 

*-Nebraska improves to 4-0 for the first time since the 2018-19 season.
*-Juwan Gary led Nebraska with 19 points, matching his collegiate career high. He also had 19 points against Houston (12/11/21) and at Florida (1/5/22) when he was at Alabama. Gary’s previous high at Nebraska was 18 at Minnesota (1/7/22), his final full game before his season-ending shoulder injury.

*-Gary becomes the fourth different Husker to lead NU in scoring this year.

*-With Gary and Keisei Tominaga (16 points) tonight, NU has had eight players reach double figures in the first four contests.
*-Rienk Mast reached double figures with 14 points and tied his career high with five assists. He had five assists three previous times at Bradley). His five assists are the most for any Husker in 2023-24. As a team, NU tied its season high with 19 assists.

*-Brice Williams posted season bests in points (17), rebounds (nine) and assists (four), as his four assists tied a career high.
*-Nebraska shot a season-high 55 percent, including 65.5 percent in the second half. It is the first time NU shot 50 percent or better this season.
*-Nebraska held Stony Brook to 37.9 percent shooting, the fourth straight opponent under 40 percent.
*-Nebraska out-rebounded Stony Brook, 45-28, and had three straight games with at least 10 more rebounds than its opponent.

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Stoney Brook played hard last night.  I commend them for their effort.

We started slow and gained momentum throughout the game.  We need to relearn that 40 minute mentality that "we got" during the lader half of last season.  

Offensively we launched some quick shots; but generally there weren't very many bad shots.  A few yes, but not many.  Spacing was good, and we had some good movement.  Some bad passing occurred but I still think we are building chemistry.  It simply looks like we are trying to force things at times.  If I have angst, it is with the struggle we seem to have in finishing at, or near the rim.  Sheesh.

Defensively, we looked okay.  We lost the shooters on occasion but man, they drilled some long ones which you really can't do much about.

Keisei may have missed more free throws last night than he did over any ten game stretch last year.

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8 hours ago, Faux Mike Peltz said:

Umm, coming off a sprained ankle injury, you really think the coaching and training staff advised him to do that?  I was sitting in the third row in front of the play you were referring to tonight. If Keisei dives in there for that loose ball and gets tangled up and re injures his ankle, everyone would be groaning about how he needed to be smarter. I personally am not concerned about KT at all. I would like Brice to be smarter against the zone, he forced two straight passes into turnovers in the second half, which allowed Stoneybrook some conversions. Also, Coleman had a bad turnover but got yanked right after that. I think Rice’s minutes are going to be pretty limited down the stretch


I just think normally a players instinct is to go hard after a loose ball. I don’t like playing scared like that but that’s just my opinion. The one on Monday was not even a scrum situation. Agree on lazy passes by a lot of guys is one of the things we need to tighten up for sure.

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