uneblinst's postgame chatter: vol 16; ed 10 - Mich St.

[Cazzie22]

7 hours ago, hugh42 said:

Very good win against a talented team with solid contributions from most who played. Glad that Diop and Rice played meaningful minutes and I hope that HCFH continues to find ways to get them on the court.

 

I am a little surprised that there hasn't been more made of Izzo's decision to not try to extend the game with a 7 point deficit with just over 20 seconds on the clock. I was stunned he did this as there was plenty of time to try for a steal and at a minimum put us at the line at least one more time if they didn't force a turnover. Was rather strange IMO.

I praised Izzo for not turning the last 25 seconds into a foul fest.  Too many coaches try for the impossible and it makes a mockery of the game.

[49r]

1 hour ago, Cazzie22 said:

I praised Izzo for not turning the last 25 seconds into a foul fest.  Too many coaches try for the impossible and it makes a mockery of the game.

 

Yeah but then every once in a while you get one of these:

 

[hugh42]

10 hours ago, Cazzie22 said:

I praised Izzo for not turning the last 25 seconds into a foul fest.  Too many coaches try for the impossible and it makes a mockery of the game.

 

I get it, especially when the outcome is no longer in doubt, but that wasn't the case here. If I'm a player for MSU, I'm like Coach, WTF??

[Navin R. Johnson]

3 hours ago, hugh42 said:

 

I get it, especially when the outcome is no longer in doubt, but that wasn't the case here. If I'm a player for MSU, I'm like Coach, WTF??

 

I was still very nervous at that point.

[hhcmatt]

Re: getting physical 

 

If you were watching on TV, you might have missed Michigan St's first possession where Lawrence (183#) absolutely trucked Mady Sissoko (250#) who was waiting for a rebound.

 

 

[Bugeaters1]

I didn't, but I did see Keisei move some guys around.

[Norm Peterson]

18 hours ago, Cazzie22 said:

I praised Izzo for not turning the last 25 seconds into a foul fest.  Too many coaches try for the impossible and it makes a mockery of the game.

 

Yeah. And we were up 7 with the ball and a fleet of good FT shooters on the floor. So, a foul probably puts us up 9 with 22 seconds to play. And then they have a 35% chance +/- to nail a 3 with maybe 15 seconds left and cut it to 6? 

 

Yeah, I agree with Izzo. Just let the game end.

[HuscurAdam]

46 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Yeah. And we were up 7 with the ball and a fleet of good FT shooters on the floor. So, a foul probably puts us up 9 with 22 seconds to play. And then they have a 35% chance +/- to nail a 3 with maybe 15 seconds left and cut it to 6? 

 

Yeah, I agree with Izzo. Just let the game end.

 

I think part of the decision nowadays comes down to whether it is worth it to potentially hurt your MOV metric by fouling for a very small chance to win the game.

[hhcmatt]

9 hours ago, hugh42 said:

 

I get it, especially when the outcome is no longer in doubt, but that wasn't the case here. If I'm a player for MSU, I'm like Coach, WTF??

 

It was a school night 

[hugh42]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Yeah. And we were up 7 with the ball and a fleet of good FT shooters on the floor. So, a foul probably puts us up 9 with 22 seconds to play. And then they have a 35% chance +/- to nail a 3 with maybe 15 seconds left and cut it to 6? 

 

Yeah, I agree with Izzo. Just let the game end.

 

What if they stole the inbounds pass and hit a 3, maybe burning 5 seconds? There down 4. Pressure us again into another turnover and score again and it's a one possession game with maybe 8-10 seconds left. We've all seen crazy stuff like this happen over the years so again, I was stunned when he just told his players to back off with so much time on the clock. Glad he did, but wasn't something I was expecting. I'm pretty sure if the situation was reversed and we were down seven and let the clock run out with 22 seconds left, fans would have been pissed. On to K-State.

[Art Vandalay]

2 minutes ago, hugh42 said:

 

What if they stole the inbounds pass and hit a 3, maybe burning 5 seconds? There down 4. Pressure us again into another turnover and score again and it's a one possession game with maybe 8-10 seconds left. We've all seen crazy stuff like this happen over the years so again, I was stunned when he just told his players to back off with so much time on the clock. Glad he did, but wasn't something I was expecting. I'm pretty sure if the situation was reversed and we were down seven and let the clock run out with 22 seconds left, fans would have been pissed. On to K-State.

I would have went for the steal but then not foul but either way the chances were less than 1%. That last completely unforced turnover kind of killed Izzy’s spirit I think.

[jimmykc]

Any foul deemed "deliberate" during the last minute should be assessed a technical at the discretion of the referee if the point differential is 7 or more. It would end the long, boring parades to the foul line at the end of games and make tv time scheduling more predictable for the following game. 

[Navin R. Johnson]

If Michigan State was playing the TV time slot right before Nebraska they would have fouled three more times so we would miss the first ten minutes of our game.

[AuroranHusker]

2 hours ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

If Michigan State was playing the TV time slot right before Nebraska they would have fouled three more times so we would miss the first ten minutes of our game.

 

No lies detected.

 

Sheesh. 

 

[HuskerActuary]

Down 7 with 24 seconds left or whatever is the right time to stop fouling. I would not be upset as a Nebraska fan if we gave up at that point. You go for the steal, and if you don't get it, that's game.

[Chuck Taylor]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1735093315907768635

 

Ruling freed up a transfer who had 10 pts and 6 bds against the boobirds. Thanks, judge!

[No Place Like the Vault]

Huskers woke Michigan state up who is currently beating 9-0 baylor 36-11

[Cazzie22]

Good that we are not playing Sparty today, December 16.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Cazzie22
Date change

[Huskerpapa]

Wow 20+ point win against #6 rated team.  We seemingly acted as a wake up call.

[Huskerpapa]

Just learned that MSU freshman Jeremy Fears was shot while home for Christmas break.  The incident is not life-threatening; but tragic nonetheless.   I believe it was a leg injury and he did undergo surgery. 

I wish him the best with his recovery.

 

https://www.wilx.com/2023/12/23/michigan-state-university-basketball-player-jeremy-fears-jr-shot-his-hometown/

Edited December 23, 2023 by Huskerpapa

[49r]

senseless.  Hope for a speedy recovery!