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Coaches that you think should be on Nebraska's list, if this trend continues

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Huskerpapa
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There is a need to reiterate the fact that Coach Miles IS a good coach.  He would not have worked up to this level in the business if he was not a good coach.  He was in fact, coach of the year just a

Norm Peterson
Norm Peterson

I just hope the next coach, whoever it is, works as hard through adversity as Tim Miles does.   The writing has been on the wall for awhile.  It would have been easy to just cash in his chip

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A long time ago, I used to watch every game and soak up every word the talking heads said, every point, all the analysis, all their expert opinions, all their insider insights, all their unnamed sourc

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cornfed24-7

cornfed24-7

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1 hour ago, Chuck Taylor said:

He's got a pretty sweet life in San Diego, but BIG $$$ might sway him. He's 63.

I live in San Diego. I can’t speak for him, but there is no amount of money  I would leave for and I could use some more money because I live in San Diego 😁

hskr4life

hskr4life

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8 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

That is completely irrelevant to the question asked and answered.  Was the program left in a better place when Tim left?  The answer is objectively yes.  Sorry you can't let your agenda go long enough to see at least that.


Unfortunately it’s been like this since Tim was let go.  The “bottom 4 5/7 years“ is brought up over and over but yet we can’t talk about the positives he did for the program.

 

No one seriously thinks we’re going to get Tim back.  Even though some might want him back.  I don’t blame those that do either.  Unfortunately, we let him go for greener pastures and now here we are seeing the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

Craytonhater

Craytonhater

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13 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

That is completely irrelevant to the question asked and answered.  Was the program left in a better place when Tim left?  The answer is objectively yes.  Sorry you can't let your agenda go long enough to see at least that.

There is no agenda.  I think people are blinded due to the current status.  One could argue Doc left the roster much better off for the transition.  Ubel, Talley,Shields, Gallegos were key for Tim in year 1

Craytonhater

Craytonhater

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1 minute ago, hskr4life said:


Unfortunately it’s been like this since Tim was let go.  The “bottom 4 5/7 years“ is brought up over and over but yet we can’t talk about the positives he did for the program.

 

No one seriously thinks we’re going to get Tim back.  Even though some might want him back.  I don’t blame those that do either.  Unfortunately, we let him go for greener pastures and now here we are seeing the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

Im not arguing, i just think hindsight its always easy to look back and think what if.  When things are really bad, its not so bad to be just bad. Do you think the "good" Tim did was greater then the bad?  Does the really good outweigh the bad?  The year they made the tourney they caught lightning in a bottle, Tim's words not mine, and look what happened their last 2 games?  They gave up I think a 18-20 pt lead in the big10 tournament.  If there was stability in the assistants and roster was more stable then I could buy in more

cornfed24-7

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34 minutes ago, Craytonhater said:

Im not arguing, i just think hindsight its always easy to look back and think what if.  When things are really bad, its not so bad to be just bad. Do you think the "good" Tim did was greater then the bad?  Does the really good outweigh the bad?  The year they made the tourney they caught lightning in a bottle, Tim's words not mine, and look what happened their last 2 games?  They gave up I think a 18-20 pt lead in the big10 tournament.  If there was stability in the assistants and roster was more stable then I could buy in more

I mean... You are arguing 😂 But that's OK you're in the right spot. Given the same talent and resources Miles coaches circles around Hoiberg. I've seen them both now. But that's neither here nor there. The next guy will be starting from scratch because Hoiberg absolutely nuked his time here. 

Craytonhater

Craytonhater

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10 hours ago, cornfed24-7 said:

I mean... You are arguing 😂 But that's OK you're in the right spot. Given the same talent and resources Miles coaches circles around Hoiberg. I've seen them both now. But that's neither here nor there. The next guy will be starting from scratch because Hoiberg absolutely nuked his time here. 

I agree that Fred screwed himself with Matt A and being stubborn thinking that what worked in the big12 works in the big 10 today.  Its taken four years to do what he should have in year 1. I do think Fred is a better coach and showed that thru his success at Iowa St. If Fred would of realized the conf, which is confusing considering all the games he wached at Mich st, and didnt bring in random dudes hoping it would magically work, we wouldnt be having this convo in year 4.  If that makes Miles a better coach, then I guess, but the xfers were different under Miles with the rules, then now.  Outside of Walker and Roby, did anyone really stay for 3-4 years under either coach that you said that's coaching thats development?...to quote one Billy C.  I would chalk it up to both bad overall hires or Tim hit his ceiling here and they will need to find the right guy.  I mean obviously everyone is frustrated with this program and its history.  God, it cant be that hard to find the guy to elevate this program.  They have just missed on hiring for a multitude of reasons.

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Craytonhater

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9 hours ago, brfrad said:

Watson and Webster would be on my list of players developed.

I expected more out of them especially how highly they were talked about and rated.  I think they were solid players, just not difference makers

Swan88

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The trend right now is this: the Huskers are playing hard, unselfish and effective ball.  We have two crucial players out, right now, with injuries.  When playing at full strength, we’ve had excellent results.

Such a trend won’t get Fred fired.  Fantasizing otherwise may be fun for some—but it ignores this fact: the Athletic Director is both wise and prudent.

millerhusker

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9 hours ago, brfrad said:

Watson and Webster would be on my list of players developed.

Watson is one of my favorite Huskers of all time. As a freshman you could see that he had All-Conference ability. But his peak was the first half of his sophomore year. Did not really develop further after that. The appearance of player development, or lack thereof, can be tricky though. A lot of it is just the situation you're in. I think Glynn was always going to be a good college player, regardless of situation. 

 

Webster got a lot better in his role his junior and senior years. However, I will forever believe he had NBA type potential/talent offensively PRIOR to coming to Nebraska. He had a Thomas Allen-style set shot before he came here. Didn't elevate much and had a very quick, compact stroke. Shot it well both off the catch and dribble. Someone tried to fix what was not broken and completely ruined both his shot and his confidence. Whether it was Miles or someone else on staff, I'm not sure, but someone decided he needed to start elevating on his shot before he ever played a college game and his upper and lower body mechanics were terrible after that. Upper body was always leaning back, he became a two-motion shooter and released the ball nearly when coming down off the jump. Considering his defense, size, athleticism, strength... that's an NBA point guard if you add efficient shooting. His defense did develop tremendously quick at Nebraska. I think Miles was excellent at developing individual defense, especially on the perimeter. 

 

Huskerpapa

Huskerpapa

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3 hours ago, Swan88 said:

The trend right now is this: the Huskers are playing hard, unselfish and effective ball.  We have two crucial players out, right now, with injuries.  When playing at full strength, we’ve had excellent results.

Man, this is sort of tough.  Especially with where we should be, and want to be.

Yes, we have two starters out.  We also had a five game stretch where DW was out.

Yes, we are playing unselfishly. 

Yes, we are playing hard.

BUT...I am not sure we have played effectively all the time.  We are having stretches of offensive lapses.  We are giving up a number of open look three's.  So we are effective at times, but aew still inconsistent.

Although we have had a few excellent results, our inconsistency, which includes our offensive deficiencies; along with our current record overall and in the league, prevents me from saying we have had excellent results.

 

 

 

hskr4life

hskr4life

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1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

Man, this is sort of tough.  Especially with where we should be, and want to be.

Yes, we have two starters out.  We also had a five game stretch where DW was out.

Yes, we are playing unselfishly. 

Yes, we are playing hard.

BUT...I am not sure we have played effectively all the time.  We are having stretches of offensive lapses.  We are giving up a number of open look three's.  So we are effective at times, but aew still inconsistent.

Although we have had a few excellent results, our inconsistency, which includes our offensive deficiencies; along with our current record overall and in the league, prevents me from saying we have had excellent results.

 

 

 


We also lose like our top 2-3 players next year.  So it’s back to square one of hoping transfers can get it done rather than supplementing with transfers that can take us further.

HuskerFever

HuskerFever

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9 minutes ago, huskercappy said:

You find me any team that will finish last 4 years in a row, and keep their coach, and I'll be awfully surprised.

 

Dave Leitao at DePaul has 23 conference wins in 7 seasons right now (3 wins/season).

millerhusker

millerhusker

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33 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Dave Leitao at DePaul has 23 conference wins in 7 seasons right now (3 wins/season).

Tony Stubblefield is the current DePaul head coach. I believe his name came up during a couple of our coaching searches. UNO grad and long-time Dana Altman assistant. 

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