2018 SG Aguek Arop -> San Diego St

[Norm Peterson]

On ‎6‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 6:32 PM, TimSmiles said:

it's burned. arop is an undersized forward who can't shoot. Miles prematurely offered him, and Arop suffered a tough injury and never really improved as a player.

 

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[Norm Peterson]

32 minutes ago, TimSmiles said:

how is that the same? we forced aguek out by telling him to go to prep school. morrow left on his own.

 

my point is that miles told aguek he wasn't ready to play here, but then goes and gets thorir who is not ready to play here. kind of confusing.

 

and now aguek is getting some big offers, and he wanted to be at nebraska.

 

Hindsight is 20/20.

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, TimSmiles said:

how is that the same? we forced aguek out by telling him to go to prep school. morrow left on his own.

 

my point is that miles told aguek he wasn't ready to play here, but then goes and gets thorir who is not ready to play here. kind of confusing.

 

and now aguek is getting some big offers, and he wanted to be at nebraska.

 

It was at different times.  That is my thing.  It isn't like we asked Aguek to go the prep route on Tuesday and then signed Thorir on Wednesday the next day.  It was Apples and Oranges different times.  Yes, they both were projects, but it was not the same situation at the time each was asked their questions.  Thorir was available at a time when we had a scholarship to use and we used it.  

 

Aguek is also a different player now than when we asked him to go the prep route.

[FredsSlacks]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

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i still agree that he is probably an undersized forward. however, when i wrote that i didn't realize we were going to replace his scholarship with an even bigger project from iceland.

[hskr4life]

7 minutes ago, TimSmiles said:

i still agree that he is probably an undersized forward. however, when i wrote that i didn't realize we were going to replace his scholarship with an even bigger project from iceland.

 

We didn't "replace" Aguek with Thorir.....

[FredsSlacks]

8 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

We didn't "replace" Aguek with Thorir.....

we forced out a project and added another project is the point i'm making.

 

and now the project we forced out is improving.

Edited November 21, 2017 by TimSmiles

[hskr4life]

3 minutes ago, TimSmiles said:

we forced out a project and added another project is the point i'm making.

 

and now the project we forced out is improving.

 

I realize that.  I am pointing out the fact that the "project" we forced out, and the "project" we took are two different situations, at two different times, that have nothing to do with one another.  It isn't like Aguek was available to sign and start when we signed Thorir.  It isn't like we replaced Aguek with Thorir.  It isn't like we said "Let's drop Aguek now and sign Thorir."

 

Why does it matter if we replaced a "project" with a "project anyways?"  If Aguek comes, he plays as much as Thorir this year.  A project is a project... doesn't matter where they are from.  I personally think Thorir has just as much upside as Aguek in terms of being a project.

[Swan88]

In the words of Paul McCartney, “Let it be.”

in the words of Elsa, “Let it go.”

[Red Rum]

[atskooc]

15 hours ago, Swan88 said:

In the words of Paul McCartney, “Let it be.”

in the words of Elsa, “Let it go.”

Yeah, that was pretty good.

[hhcmatt]

Can we keep the Aguek posts in the Aguek thread and the Akol posts in the Akol thead?

 

[jason2486]

I hope we can get him back in the fold. He reminds me of Khyri Thomas, who I think we all can agree would look much better in Husker red.

[TheKamdyMan]

Will Miles get an apology and thank you letter from Chubick for basically telling him and Arop the truth and giving him the best advice possible?  No he will not.  Same with all of the OWH people that lambasted him for pushing him to the best option.

[hskr4life]

10 minutes ago, TheKamdyMan said:

Will Miles get an apology and thank you letter from Chubick for basically telling him and Arop the truth and giving him the best advice possible?  No he will not.  Same with all of the OWH people that lambasted him for pushing him to the best option.

 

This.  Very much this.  Everyone is very high of him now because he is doing what Miles told him to do in the first place.  To me, he will be able to improve much more this year than if he would have been on scholarship and getting limited minutes.  

[hhcmatt]

3 hours ago, TheKamdyMan said:

Will Miles get an apology and thank you letter from Chubick for basically telling him and Arop the truth and giving him the best advice possible?  No he will not.  Same with all of the OWH people that lambasted him for pushing him to the best option.

 

I think this is a fair assessment and if it had truly been up to Aguek he would have taken Miles' advice and still be committed here.

 

I think it's also fair to say that the predicament Miles found himself in was of his own making: he had locked down a kid who might not develop (he seems to be) into a scholarship spot he might need (he didn't) because of an overreaction to missing out on the opportunity to land Patton (who we never would have landed anyway) by offering Aguek too early. 

 

Finally, I don't think that it's necessary to win this state in recruiting in order to be successful...in fact we could be quite successful without fielding a single player from the state. However, that doesn't mean we've done anything but mostly bungle our way through recruiting in this state; If it isn't taking the wrong guy like Deverell Biggs, then it's overreating by not looking at someone like Khyri Thomas because we don't want to recruit another Biggs.

[Chuck Taylor]

9 hours ago, hhcdimes said:

 

I think this is a fair assessment and if it had truly been up to Aguek he would have taken Miles' advice and still be committed here.

 

I think it's also fair to say that the predicament Miles found himself in was of his own making: he had locked down a kid who might not develop (he seems to be) into a scholarship spot he might need (he didn't) because of an overreaction to missing out on the opportunity to land Patton (who we never would have landed anyway) by offering Aguek too early. 

 

Finally, I don't think that it's necessary to win this state in recruiting in order to be successful...in fact we could be quite successful without fielding a single player from the state. However, that doesn't mean we've done anything but mostly bungle our way through recruiting in this state; If it isn't taking the wrong guy like Deverell Biggs, then it's overreating by not looking at someone like Khyri Thomas because we don't want to recruit another Biggs.

Exactly, it's a big picture issue. Something was incredibly deficient in our instate recruiting. Patton, Daum and Thomas didn't get offers. One's a lottery pick and the other two at least NBA draft possibilities. I don't give a @%## about whether anyone on the board thought they deserved scholarships. I care that our staff didn't seem to know or care that they existed.

[hhcmatt]

14 minutes ago, Chuck Taylor said:

I care that our staff didn't seem to know or care that they existed.

 

The only one that's real fair to harp on is Thomas.

Patton could have gotten offers from Kansas, UCLA etc not to mention Nebraska if he had wanted to wait around. Dude was going to Creighton.

We knew about Daum and had him down for a look. He didn't look like an upper level D-1 guy. His offer sheet reflects that. He blossomed.

 

[Swan88]

I'm always amazed at the hand-wringing and agony among Husker (and marginally-Husker) folks over missed-out players.

Life goes on--enjoy it a little.  The constant drip of regret is . . . well, it's a lousy way to start a long weekend.

And it happens--it's part of college sports.  For example:

--Tom Osborne rejected Barry Sanders because he already had a commitment from another small running back--Johnny Rodgers's son, who became injured and never panned out.

--Larry Station and numerous others from Nebraska went to Iowa and were all-everything there.

--The little running back from North Platte couldn't get a scholarship offer here and has had huge success in college and the pros.

And those are in football where we can stockpile 80+ scholarship players.  Basketball only has 13.

 

 

 

[49r]

@Swan88 my only regret is that I have but one upvote to give to your post here.  Thank you for that!

[AuroranHusker]

54 minutes ago, 49r said:

@Swan88 my only regret is that I have but one upvote to give to your post here.  Thank you for that!

 

 

And, "but one life to live."

[Navin R. Johnson]

Aguek Arop‏ @AGUEK_12h12 hours ago

Blessed to have received and offer from San Diego State University #GoAztecs

[Jugular]

3 hours ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

Aguek Arop‏ @AGUEK_12h12 hours ago

Blessed to have received and offer from San Diego State University #GoAztecs

 

I would love to add this kid. Looking at him now, Tim was spot on with having him spend a year at a prep school

[B-town hoopsfan]

5 minutes ago, Jugular said:

 

I would love to add this kid. Looking at him now, Tim was spot on with having him spend a year at a prep school

Sucks that him or his “group” would never admit that Miles was right. For the record I think he was wrong(shoulda just offered him and redshirted him IMO) 

Edited April 27, 2018 by B-town hoopsfan

[Jugular]

1 hour ago, B-town hoopsfan said:

Sucks that him or his “group” would never admit that Miles was right. For the record I think he was wrong(shoulda just offered him and redshirted him IMO) 

 

I wonder if Tim may have got some bad advice from a former member of the staff?

[B-town hoopsfan]

No clue. In general I just believe prep school and a redshirt year are equivalent inless there are grade issues. Luckily they realized that w Heiman.