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hhcmatt

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It's different it's just a little off because we're playing so early in the season.

We're playing in Hawaii this season. The last time we did that the Creighton SID trolled us at 3am because he was hate watching our game.

The one time we won at the CHI Center was because we had a guy on the team who cared about beating those guys.

Let's beat these jags!

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Faux Mike Peltz

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5 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

Just another game on the schedule, no different than any other.

 

As with the prior games, I hope we start to gel as a team and exit the non-conference slate with a respectable record. I'm more excited about squaring off against some of these newcomers in the Big Ten.

I’m going to have to disagree. First, they represent a quad 1 win opportunity. So that’s not like any other game on the schedule. Second, this game is Creighton’s red circle on the calendar game, and has been since the mid 90’s. And nebraska trying to downplay the rivalry and say it’s just another game is one reason why we get our butts kicked often. I guarantee you that Sam Griesel didn’t view it as no different than any other. And third, I’ve lived in Omaha my entire life as a diehard Husker hoops fan. I loathe the Jays. I loathe the sweater-vest and 3/4 zip wearing, snobby cu fans who make snide remarks the next day in the office. I’ve been putting up with it for over two decades as an adult. I hate that they developed into a relevant and nationally ranked program while their fans also cheer for 9 win seasons and bowl game appearances. I dislike that they built their program with a mixture of clean cut Korvers, Kalkbrenner, Dane Watts, and Grant Gibbs types countered by the P’Allen’s, Cavel Witters, Rodney Buford’s, and Mo’ Watson ilk. I loathe CU. I dislike Jayskers. I find them beyond annoying. I respect coach Mac as a coach but will never ever be a part of his plantation. Sorry to vent.  I’m ready for Friday now. GBR!!!! 

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millerhusker

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Creighton could very well come out and make 12 more threes than we do and run us out of the gym like last year and most games vs them in the last 25 years. But they aren’t nearly as good this year without Scheierman and Alexander. Their backcourt is not very impressive. Pop Isaacs isn’t a typical Mac guard. He’s erratic, has poor shot selection and is terribly inefficient. Has been his whole career. Neal is not very skilled and can’t shoot. Ashworth can shoot the crap out of the ball, but his ball handling and lack of quickness gets exposed against bigger, more athletic guards. And that’s pretty much it for their backcourt right now. Not much depth there. If Creighton makes <10 threes and you can somewhat keep Kalkbrenner off the offensive glass, you can beat them. 

HuskerFever

HuskerFever

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6 hours ago, Faux Mike Peltz said:

I’m going to have to disagree. First, they represent a quad 1 win opportunity. So that’s not like any other game on the schedule. Second, this game is Creighton’s red circle on the calendar game, and has been since the mid 90’s. And nebraska trying to downplay the rivalry and say it’s just another game is one reason why we get our butts kicked often. I guarantee you that Sam Griesel didn’t view it as no different than any other. And third, I’ve lived in Omaha my entire life as a diehard Husker hoops fan. I loathe the Jays. I loathe the sweater-vest and 3/4 zip wearing, snobby cu fans who make snide remarks the next day in the office. I’ve been putting up with it for over two decades as an adult. I hate that they developed into a relevant and nationally ranked program while their fans also cheer for 9 win seasons and bowl game appearances. I dislike that they built their program with a mixture of clean cut Korvers, Kalkbrenner, Dane Watts, and Grant Gibbs types countered by the P’Allen’s, Cavel Witters, Rodney Buford’s, and Mo’ Watson ilk. I loathe CU. I dislike Jayskers. I find them beyond annoying. I respect coach Mac as a coach but will never ever be a part of his plantation. Sorry to vent.  I’m ready for Friday now. GBR!!!! 

 

It's easy to pick out who lives in Omaha and who doesn't :lol:

 

A win or a loss versus a rival has little to no bearing to the outcome of the season. I don't have to live with the consequences of coworkers after this game, so that probably plays a role. But this is more people taking a rivalry personal than it is seeing for what it is.

 

It's like the Big Ten trying to force a Nebraska/Iowa rivalry over Thanksgiving. It's whatever you make it.

 

But vent away! Appreciate your perspective!

HB

HB

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40 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

It's easy to pick out who lives in Omaha and who doesn't :lol:

 

A win or a loss versus a rival has little to no bearing to the outcome of the season. I don't have to live with the consequences of coworkers after this game, so that probably plays a role. But this is more people taking a rivalry personal than it is seeing for what it is.

 

It's like the Big Ten trying to force a Nebraska/Iowa rivalry over Thanksgiving. It's whatever you make it.

 

But vent away! Appreciate your perspective!

 

I have to think it's pretty important for in-state recruiting.  Crayton kicking our ass on the court most every year over the past couple of decades has to be a factor in our dismal record in head to head recruiting efforts with Nebraska kids.   At some point we have to turn this around.   It's an important game beyond the Omaha pukes strutting around the office after another Jay win.  

Hilltoppers

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Long time listener, first time caller. As a Jays alum growing up in Nebraska, I promise I come in peace. I support both schools in all sports unless it's that one day where they meet. Certainly doesn't work out well for me during VB season!

 

Couple of good points made here...

- Believe me when I say the sweater vest wine and cheese crowd bothers most CU fans as well. As a resident of the upper deck often in sweatpants and a hoodie, the lower bowl can really suck the life out of the crowd. But their financial support over the years likely has a say as to where the Jays are as a program, so I guess we tolerate it.

- Does CU circle this game every year? Yes and no. I'd say this year the Husker game is probably the 4th most anticipated home game. 1A and 1B are KU and UConn. I'd say Marquette is always pretty heated and exciting, and then Nebraska. Certianly gets fans in the seats, but I don't think we'll be making any "Beat Nebraska" buttons...maybe 😉

- For this game, it is interesting defensively. Nebraska loves to double and trap, which can often leave shooters open. St. Marys took advantage and if you look at last year, Scheierman took 19 threes, which is insane. I imagine they double Kalk and continue to trap baseline. It's a matter of if that will cause CU to panic or find the open man and make shots.

- Jays defensively always funnel everything to Kalk down low. They force you to drive off of the 3 and take a tough 2. Huskers haven't exactly lit it up from 3 and the Jays 3-pt defense this year has been subpar, so that's something to watch. If Nebraska can hit a few 3s and some tough 2s in the paint, watch out.

- Kalk often gets labeled as soft, but truth is he is just told not to foul and use his length to alter shots because when he comes out, the Jays are in trouble. Sometimes that works, and sometimes Derrick Walker torches him. Curious if Nebraska has a guy that will take on that challenge this year.

 

Overall, it should be fun to watch. I'm thinking 78-71 but I could see either team coming out on top. Should be fun!

aphilso1

aphilso1

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8 hours ago, Faux Mike Peltz said:

I’m going to have to disagree. First, they represent a quad 1 win opportunity. So that’s not like any other game on the schedule. Second, this game is Creighton’s red circle on the calendar game, and has been since the mid 90’s. And nebraska trying to downplay the rivalry and say it’s just another game is one reason why we get our butts kicked often. I guarantee you that Sam Griesel didn’t view it as no different than any other. And third, I’ve lived in Omaha my entire life as a diehard Husker hoops fan. I loathe the Jays. I loathe the sweater-vest and 3/4 zip wearing, snobby cu fans who make snide remarks the next day in the office. I’ve been putting up with it for over two decades as an adult. I hate that they developed into a relevant and nationally ranked program while their fans also cheer for 9 win seasons and bowl game appearances. I dislike that they built their program with a mixture of clean cut Korvers, Kalkbrenner, Dane Watts, and Grant Gibbs types countered by the P’Allen’s, Cavel Witters, Rodney Buford’s, and Mo’ Watson ilk. I loathe CU. I dislike Jayskers. I find them beyond annoying. I respect coach Mac as a coach but will never ever be a part of his plantation. Sorry to vent.  I’m ready for Friday now. GBR!!!! 

 

My hatred of Creighton has waned a little bit now that I no longer live in Omaha and have moved out of state.  I still get fired up for this game, but not as much since I don't have to listen to Jay and Jaysker fans chirp about their team incessantly.  I want to win this game for the fans like you that are still living in enemy territory.  You deserve a dub, my man.

 

P.S.  Grant Gibbs was a thug, and I am bothered by you putting him in the clean cut category.  Wearing an accountant's hair cut doesn't change that fact.

 

 

aphilso1

aphilso1

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9 minutes ago, Hilltoppers said:

As a Jays alum growing up in Nebraska, I promise I come in peace. I support both schools in all sports unless it's that one day where they meet. 

 

Would you wear a Red Sox hat with a Yankee jersey while walking in the Bronx?

 

Rationalizing your Jayskerness doesn't change anything.  You're still a Jaysker.  Pick a side of the rivalry and loathe the other, like us civilized folk. 

Sidelines - Nebraska

Sidelines - Nebraska

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Growing up in Omaha, I have always separated my hate for Creighton from the fan base to coach Mac and their product on the floor.  I hate their fan base; I don't hate Coach Mac or their style of play I actually think they've had a lot of fun players to watch this past decade. That being said, growing up in Omaha, I've put up with Jayskers my entire life they suck.  They always have their noses stuck so high up in the air for a program that has only made one elite eight you would think they've been to multiple final fours the way they act.  At least Husker football fans have seen winning so can act that type of way (to a degree).  Creighton has not.  Describing jayskers to my out of state friends they all see the stupidity that being a jaysker is.  It blows their minds when I tell them yeah so basically 70% of their fan base cheers for Nebraska in football, baseball, and volleyball then come December they all hate Nebraska.  It's never made any sense to me they suck I really hate their fan base, but have a ton of respect for what Coach Mac has been able to build there.    

Hilltoppers

Hilltoppers

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Lol I certainly would not. Just like I don't wear a Creighton shirt and a Nebraska hat at the same time. Was mainly just saying they both have my support. I know that makes some upset, especially when it comes to football, but it is what it is. Always found it fascinating that a team would not welcome that support. Plenty of Jays fans are Iowa football fans. I would have assumed that's worse, but I guess I'm wrong there.

HuskerFever

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50 minutes ago, HB said:

I have to think it's pretty important for in-state recruiting.  Crayton kicking our ass on the court most every year over the past couple of decades has to be a factor in our dismal record in head to head recruiting efforts with Nebraska kids.   At some point we have to turn this around.   It's an important game beyond the Omaha pukes strutting around the office after another Jay win.  

 

I wouldn't go as far to say that this might be archaic, but in the new world of NIL the collegiate sports environment has changed.

 

Creighton's roster contains 3 players from Nebraska (19%), makes up 12% of the team's total points, and 17% of team minutes.

 

Average points per game for each player is 2.3/0.0/8.3. Average rebounds are 2.5/0.0/2.5.

 

Nebraska's roster contains 5 players from Nebraska (29%), makes up 2% of team's total points, and 10% of team minutes.

 

Average points per game for each player is 2.0/0.5/2.0/0.0/0.0. Average rebounds are 4.0/2.3/2.2/0.0/0.0.

 

I'm not sure defeating an in-state opponent to win in-state talent is the major sticking point here.

cornfed24-7

cornfed24-7

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2 hours ago, kldm64 said:

Your thread title is wrong.  It's HATE Creighton week.  That is all....

The only point of distinction I'd make is whatever time measurement you use it's preceded by "HATE Creighton".

 

Examples - 

HATE Creighton minute.

HATE Creighton decade.

HATE Creighton millennium.

Etc.

 

I think it should be more along the lines of, "HATE Creighton a little more than usual week." Or maybe something a little more succinct. 😀

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