Deng Deng 2014 Juco F *committed to Baylor 5.4.14*

[AuroranHusker]

 

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits.  Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

 

I mean shoot...hasn't Harriman been recruiting Deng for like 6 years or something?

 

I believe that's Pinder

I think there's also an Aussie connection with double-D & Coach Harriman...

[Silverbacked1]

This the biggest reason I couldn't coach at a college level. All the games and hoops a coach must jump through so that some 18-22 year old will say they like you.

Just couldn't do it.

[Norm Peterson]

 

 

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits.  Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

 

I mean shoot...hasn't Harriman been recruiting Deng for like 6 years or something?

 

I believe that's Pinder

I think there's also a Aussie connection with double-D & Coach Harrison...

 

That's what's been reported.  Believe Deng is an Aussie citizen.

[kldm64]

Deng Deng, a 6-8 forward out of Lee College, is one of the best unsigned players in the 2014 class and one of the best overall in the class. He has already taken visits to Baylor and Nebraska recently and is currently on a visit to LSU. Deng gave a verbal commitment to LSU last year when he thought he was able to leave as a 2013 prospect with three years of eligibility. He was not able to leave and returned to Lee for his sophomore year while reopening his recruitment. Indiana is still trying to get him in on a visit according to sources close to his recruitment. Deng has not decided whether he will make his decision or take another visit after the LSU visit is finished on Saturday.

[ajb5856]

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits. Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

I mean shoot...hasn't Harriman been recruiting Deng for like 6 years or something?

I believe that's Pinder

I think there's also a Aussie connection with double-D & Coach Harrison...

Harriman and Deng do have a relationship dating back to when Deng was living in Australia. But to be fair, one of LSUs coaches also had a long standing relationship with Deng and he was the primary reason why Deng was comfortable commiting there without seeing the campus.

[hhcmatt]

Harriman and Deng do have a relationship dating back to when Deng was living in Australia. But to be fair, one of LSUs coaches also had a long standing relationship with Deng and he was the primary reason why Deng was comfortable commiting there without seeing the campus.

 

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=28712&SPID=2166&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=205461482&Q_SEASON=2013

 

BTW, does the SEC have over-signing rules for basketball?  If he does end up at LSU they would need to "cut" two guys instead of one.

[ajb5856]

David Patrick is the name of the LSU assistant who knew Deng from Australia. He's the reason Deng committed there the first time.

[Norm Peterson]

 

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits.  Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

 

I mean shoot...hasn't Harriman been recruiting Deng for like 6 years or something?

It's hard to recruit here. Anyone who thinks it isn't is fooling themselves.

 

Bullcrap.  Who told you that?  That's a loser's mentality.  We just need to bring in a big name coach and throw the money at him and the recruits will swarm.  Doc didn't land recruits because he was a bad recruiter and just plain lazy on the recruiting trail.  Blah blah blah.  You're just making excuses because you're a big Doc fan.  No more excuses.  It's Doc's fault.  Doc has had 6 years to show what he can do in recruiting and ...

 

Oh, wait.  What?  

 

/sarcasm

 

 

Yep, what HB said.  As hard as it may be for some people to accept, not everybody we want wants us.  And it ain't as easy as just extending an offer.

[colhusker]

 

 

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits.  Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

 

I mean shoot...hasn't Harriman been recruiting Deng for like 6 years or something?

It's hard to recruit here. Anyone who thinks it isn't is fooling themselves.

 

Bullcrap.  Who told you that?  That's a loser's mentality.  We just need to bring in a big name coach and throw the money at him and the recruits will swarm.  Doc didn't land recruits because he was a bad recruiter and just plain lazy on the recruiting trail.  Blah blah blah.  You're just making excuses because you're a big Doc fan.  No more excuses.  It's Doc's fault.  Doc has had 6 years to show what he can do in recruiting and ...

 

Oh, wait.  What?  

 

/sarcasm

 

 

Yep, what HB said.  As hard as it may be for some people to accept, not everybody we want wants us.  And it ain't as easy as just extending an offer.

 

Agree it's an uphill battle recruiting here.  However, Nee proved it could be done.  He was fortunate to have had Omaha actually producing a bit of Div 1 talent at the time, not 1 kid a year like now.  Tough yes, can it be done, yep.

[hhcmatt]

Oh, wait.  What?  

 

Not sure how Doc is relevant in this conversation at all.

 

 

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits.  Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

 

We will always have trouble closing out recruits, much like everyone else in the country.

The problem we want to have is trouble closing out BETTER recruits.  

[Huskerpapa]

According to Brad Winton of JucoRecruiting.com, Indiana is a player for Deng as well.  Although not yet successful, they are still trying to get him in on a visit. 

[bball23]

Are we complaining about closing on recruits when the kids hasn't even signed anywhere yet?  If you were an 18-19 year old kid wouldn't you want to check out every place you could?  Get treated like gold?  I would.  Doesn't mean Deng Deng won't end up here either.

 

Tim Miles in year 2 got this group to the NCAA tourney for the first time in 15 years and some are complaining already about how hard it is to recruit too?  I know it is, but goodness, let's give this some time.  Hammond, Smith and Ayegba obviously like it enough to sign and they (on paper) are good players.  So it can be done.  We still have a shot at Cornish and Deng.  Doesn't mean we get them for sure, but lets at least wait to bicker and moan until they decide where they actually end up.

[HB]

Are we complaining about closing on recruits when the kids hasn't even signed anywhere yet?  If you were an 18-19 year old kid wouldn't you want to check out every place you could?  Get treated like gold?  I would.  Doesn't mean Deng Deng won't end up here either.

 

Tim Miles in year 2 got this group to the NCAA tourney for the first time in 15 years and some are complaining already about how hard it is to recruit too?  I know it is, but goodness, let's give this some time.  Hammond, Smith and Ayegba obviously like it enough to sign and they (on paper) are good players.  So it can be done.  We still have a shot at Cornish and Deng.  Doesn't mean we get them for sure, but lets at least wait to bicker and moan until they decide where they actually end up.

Just to clarify, bball 23, I wasn't complaining, I was responding to the post that was complaining. I couldn't be happier with where we are in year 2 of the Miles era. Have to pinch myself sometimes just to make sure it's really happening. But even Miles publically acknowledged that the biggest challenge he has faced so far, and has found harder than he expected, was recruiting. It is just a challenge here. But I love how we are facing the challenge and making progress. For now, we will still have to "recruit" vs. "select".

[FredsSlacks]

I'm not sure Deng would see the court much here unless he redshirted this year. We have a lot of depth at the forward spots.

 

C-Moses,Smith,PItchford

PF Shields, Rivers

SF Petteway, Fuller

 

I think Cornish would fill a need more than Deng would.

 

SG Webster?

PG Smith, Parker

 

 

Then next year we could potentially have 2 more forwards in Pinder and Morrow.

[atskooc]

I'm not sure Deng would see the court much here unless he redshirted this year. We have a lot of depth at the forward spots.

 

C-Moses,Smith,PItchford

PF Shields, Rivers

SF Petteway, Fuller

 

I think Cornish would fill a need more than Deng would.

 

SG Webster?

PG Smith, Parker

 

 

Then next year we could potentially have 2 more forwards in Pinder and Morrow.

Who's to say he's not good enough to see the floor above some of those guys?

[OurDecay]

Just to be clear, I'm thrilled by the caliber of players we've gotten interest from. Who we are targeting under Miles is exciting...he is fearless and we are going into places and after players that previously we had no business going after. On top of that, we are building relationships years in advance...laying the groundwork for future interest. I like the fact that Miles recognizes that we need a certain level of talent to compete and that we can't just "coach em up".

I don't get too caught up in recruiting rankings. What I look at is who we target and how successful we are at landing them. I am ecstatic about Tarin Smith for example. He's a guy who is under the radar but has every quality we should want...and we nabbed him.

The place where I get disappointed is when we have guys that won't even visit despite what I feel we objectively have to offer. That's not anybody's "fault", but it is disappointing. Im not talking about 5-star guys either...but our chosen targets. I'm hoping time and continued success changes that and we can at least get real consideration from our targets.

[FredsSlacks]

i'm not saying he can't start from day 1. i'm just saying it would be tough. He's coming off an ankle injury and we are pretty deep at the forward spot.

[Minnesota_Husker]

I'm not sure Deng would see the court much here unless he redshirted this year. We have a lot of depth at the forward spots.

 

C-Moses,Smith,PItchford

PF Shields, Rivers

SF Petteway, Fuller

 

I think Cornish would fill a need more than Deng would.

 

SG Webster?

PG Smith, Parker

 

 

Then next year we could potentially have 2 more forwards in Pinder and Morrow.

 

I dont get this... Petteway will play the 2.

 

With Ayegba being added... I think we see a lot more of Pitch at the 4. Shields at the 3. Petteway at the 2.

 

 

Not saying Moses starts but even if they were to start Pitchford at the 5, then i think you see Rivers at the 4 and Shields at 3/ TP at 2.

[TheKamdyMan]

I will go on record that Deng Deng will have a better season than Cornish next year statistically no matter where he ends up.  Deng is a better overall player right now than Cornish and would be a great addition.  I'd personally rather have Deng than Cornish.

[MandRHusker]

I think that Deng starts over Rivers at the 4 and we continue with Pitch at the 5. Moses rotates in off the bench. Deng would give us a fourth scoring threat, assuming TP, Shevon & Pitch are our current scorers. He would also add a second inside scoring threat. Deng would be a huge get!

[Swan88]

18 pages in this thread. This is getting serious . . . 18 pages is approaching a level signifying, historically, the recruit-isn't-coming.

Here are a few observations (without any conclusions) on Deng's recruitment to Nebraska that, collectively, seem odd:

1. He was clearly on the Husker's radar during the November signing period but did not sign then;

2. His official visit to Huskerland suffered multiple postponements;

3. When Deng finally made it to Lincoln, he sandwiched that visit between Baylor and LSU and is now maybe/possibly/still-thinking-on visiting Indiana but has difficulty knowing for sure;

4. His visits to Baylor and to LSU seem to be something of a surprise to posters on message boards for those teams--which would appear to be true for Indiana fans too;

5. Waiting for grades wouldn't appear to be the issue now because Lee College finals are next week and Deng doesn't appear to be worried about attending class or cramming for finals; and

6. Nebraska coaches appear to be focused on future year recruits and don't appear to be scrambling for additional 2014 players.

Hard to figure.

[huskerbaseball13]

Oh, wait. What?

Not sure how Doc is relevant in this conversation at all.

We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits. Hopefully continued success will make that go away.

We will always have trouble closing out recruits, much like everyone else in the country.

The problem we want to have is trouble closing out BETTER recruits.

He's not. Unless someone notes Shang Ping rhymes with Deng Deng. Can anyone explain the rationale as to why some think it's so hard to recruit to Nebraska?

[Norm Peterson]

 

Oh, wait.  What?  

 

Not sure how Doc is relevant in this conversation at all.

 

Really?  Ok.

 

Uh, try it this way. 

 

OurDecay seems to express some surprise/frustration that "We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits."

 

HB then points out that people are kidding themselves if they don't think this is a tough place to recruit.

 

Now, if you had said "this is a tough place to recruit" at any point in time during Doc's last 3 years here, there would have been people practically shouting at you to stop making excuses for Doc.  I think a lot of them honestly believed that all we needed to do to solve our recruiting woes was replace Doc.  And my admittedly snarky point was that those who thought it was just Doc being lazy on the recruiting trail are going to be in for a little bit of a surprise when they see that, by gosh, this is still a tough place to recruit to.

 

So ...

[huskerbaseball13]

Oh, wait. What?

Not sure how Doc is relevant in this conversation at all.

Really? Ok.

Uh, try it this way.

OurDecay seems to express some surprise/frustration that "We really seem to still have a problem closing out recruits."

HB then points out that people are kidding themselves if they don't think this is a tough place to recruit.

Now, if you had said "this is a tough place to recruit" at any point in time during Doc's last 3 years here, there would have been people practically shouting at you to stop making excuses for Doc. I think a lot of them honestly believed that all we needed to do to solve our recruiting woes was replace Doc. And my admittedly snarky point was that those who thought it was just Doc being lazy on the recruiting trail are going to be in for a little bit of a surprise when they see that, by gosh, this is still a tough place to recruit to.

So ...

I don't think it ever had anything to do with being lazy. Was he bad at identifying talent? I'd say yes. Who knows maybe recruiting to Lincoln is a tough as some think...and that's why it takes the right coach. Miles appears to fit the mold. Doc? Not so much.

[Cookie Belcher]

I'm not sure Deng would see the court much here unless he redshirted this year. We have a lot of depth at the forward spots.

 

C-Moses,Smith,PItchford

PF Shields, Rivers

SF Petteway, Fuller

 

I think Cornish would fill a need more than Deng would.

 

SG Webster?

PG Smith, Parker

 

 

Then next year we could potentially have 2 more forwards in Pinder and Morrow.

Wrong IMO.  He would get a lot of playing time.  I think people are underrating how good he is.