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    Roby (is Good)

    If you take away the Wisconsin road game where he only played 17 minutes with foul trouble, here are Isaiah Roby's last 6 games: vs Iowa: 30 mins, 17 pts, 8 reb, 3 blocks, 2 assists, 1 TO @ Minn: 34 mins, 21 pts, 8 reb, 5 blocks, 2 assists, 1 TO vs Rutg: 27 mins, 10 pts, 11 reb, 2 blocks, 2 assists, 1 TO vs Mary: 32 mins, 11 pts, 10 reb, 3 blocks, 1 assist, 1 TO @ Illinois: 32 mins, 14 pts, 10 reb, 3 blocks, 2 assists, 3 TO vs Ind: 35 mins, 11 pts, 9 reb, 1 block, 2 assists, 2 TO For an average of: 31.7 MPG, 14.0 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 2.8 BPG, 1.8 APG, 1.5 TPG ...that'll play.
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    2019 SG Quenton Jackson (JUCO)

    That athleticism is goofy. Good Lord.
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    Selection Committee Games of Interest

    UCF - Wichita St just had some drama
  4. By the way, the only two players on this list that are transfers are Palmer and Copeland. All the rest are playing for the team that recruited them out of high school.
  5. As a person who religiously follows football recruiting and rankings...basketball recruiting fascinate me. They tend to be pretty accurate. Check it out...Rivals ratings added: 2017-18 All-Big Ten Men’s Basketball Team As selected by Big Ten coachesFIRST TEAMMILES BRIDGES, MICHIGAN STATE - 5-stars, #10 in R150 (2016)James Palmer Jr., Nebraska - 4-stars, #99 in R150 (2014)KEITA BATES-DIOP, OHIO STATE - 4-stars, #26 in R150 (2014)Tony Carr, Penn State - 4-stars, #46 in R150 (2016)Carsen Edwards, Purdue - 4-stars, #91 in R150 (2016)SECOND TEAMJuwan Morgan, Indiana - 3-stars, #109 in R150 (2015)Moritz Wagner, Michigan - 4-stars (2015)Jae'Sean Tate, Ohio State - 4-stars, #79 in R150 (2014)Vincent Edwards, Purdue - 3-stars, #124 in R150 (2014)Ethan Happ, Wisconsin - 3-stars, #123 in R150 (2014)THIRD TEAMAnthony Cowan Jr., Maryland - 4-stars, #45 in R150 (2016)Jaren Jackson Jr., Michigan State - 5-stars, #6 in R150 (2017)Cassius Winston, Michigan State - 4-stars, #29 in R150 (2016)Jordan Murphy, Minnesota - 3-stars, #113 in R150 (2015)Isaac Haas, Purdue - 4-stars, #71 in R150 (2014)HONORABLE MENTIONLeron Black, Illinois - 4-stars, #38 in R150 (2014)Robert Johnson, Indiana - 4-stars, #48 in R150 (2014)Tyler Cook, Iowa - 4-stars, #74 in R150 (2016)Kevin Huerter, Maryland - 4-stars, #59 in R150 (2016)Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman, Michigan - 3-stars (2014)Nick Ward, Michigan State - 4-stars, #41 in R150 (2016)Nate Mason, Minnesota - 3-stars (2014)Isaac Copeland Jr., Nebraska - 5-stars, #23 in R150 (2014)Lamar Stevens, Penn State - 4-stars, #96 in R150 (2016)Mike Watkins, Penn State - 3-stars, #126 in R150 (2015)Dakota Mathias, Purdue - 3-stars, #147 in R150 (2014)So...of the 26 players that made the All-Big Ten teams, 23 were listed as Rivals150 players coming out of high school, and another one was a 4-star international player. The 1st team contains four 4-star players, and one 5-star.Discuss.
  6. ...have been good for Miles: HUGE SUCCESSES:Terran Petteway (Texas Tech):@ Texas Tech (1 season): 13.1 MPG, 3.1 PPG, 2.0 [email protected] Nebraska (2 seasons): 33.3 MPG, 18.1 PPG, 4.9 RPGNotable: unanimous 1st-team All-Big Ten in first year at NU; 3rd-team All-Big Ten in second year. Led NU to first NCAA tourney birth in 16 years. Declared early for NBA draft.James Palmer Jr (Miami):@ Miami (2 seasons): 12.5 MPG, 3.6 PPG, 1.3 RPG, 0.7 [email protected] Nebraska (1 season): 30.7 MPG, 17.6 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.0 APGNotable: probable 1st-team All-Big Ten selection in first year at NU. Has averaged 19.3 PPG in 17 conference games.Isaac Copeland (Georgetown):@ Georgetown (3 seasons): 25.3 MPG, 8.6 PPG, 4.5 [email protected] Nebraska (1 season): 30.5 MPG, 13.0 PPG, 6.1 RPGNotable: leads team in total rebounds. Has shot 42% from 3-point range in 17 conference games.Andrew White III (Kansas):@ Kansas (2 seasons): 5.5 MPG, 2.3 PPG, 1.2 RPG, .295 from [email protected] Nebraska (1 season): 29.7 MPG, 16.6 PPG, 5.9 RPG, .412 from 3PTNotable: led NU in rebounding and was second in scoring in his only year at NU. Currently in NBA.Walter Pitchford (Florida):@ Florida (1 season): 1.7 MPG, 0.5 PPG, 0.3 [email protected] Nebraska (2 seasons): 25.1 MPG, 8.3 PPG, 4.6 RPGNotable: was key piece of NU's first NCAA tourney birth in 16 years, shooting 43% from 3PT in conference play that year (and averaging 10.0 PPG)Anton Gill (Louisville):@ Louisville (2 seasons): 7.9 MPG, 2.0 PPG, 0.8 RPG, 0.4 [email protected] Nebraska (2 seasons): 22.0 MPG, 6.8 PPG, 1.9 RPG, 1.0 APGNotable: had first season cut short by injury. In his second year, was inserted into starting lineup mid-season in midst of run toward postseason tournaments.Evan Taylor (Samford):@ Samford (1 season): 22.4 MPG, 6.4 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 1.2 [email protected] Nebraska (2 seasons): 25.2 MPG, 5.9 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 1.8 APGNotable: was only a part-time starter for Samford, yet has started 40 games for NU across 2 seasons. Has developed into a defensive specialist for NU. Is currently shooting 48.4% from 3PT on the season.MODERATE SUCCESSES:Leslee Smith (SMU):@ SMU (1 season): 15.1 MPG, 3.8 PPG, 3.4 [email protected] Nebraska (2 seasons): 15.3 MPG, 4.6 PPG, 4.2 RPGNotable: severely limited by injuries throughout career at NU.Duby Okeke (Winthop):@ Winthrop (3 seasons): 14.9 MPG, 4.1 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 1.8 [email protected] Nebraska (1 season): 7.2 MPG, 0.8 PPG, 1.8 RPG, 1.0 BPGNotable: offensively limited big brought in as an elite shot-blocker. As advertised, but too limited overall to warrant extended minutes.Moses Abraham (Georgetown):@ Georgetown (3 seasons): 10.7 MPG, 1.6 PPG, 2.5 [email protected] Nebraska (1 season): 10.2 MPG, 1.6 PPG, 3.4 RPGNotable: was unable to stick as a major piece of the rotation during a disappointing season.
  7. Speaking of Roby, he played a team-leading 35 minutes tonight. His improvement in staying on the court and affecting the game in all the ways he does is probably under-reported.
  8. If we are sitting at 23-8 before the BTT, we might be ranked in the top-25. Historically those teams don’t land that low in seeding because they are passing the eye test. i mean, technically speaking...a #24 ranked team would be a 6-seed, if the two lined up. i know that the committee doesn’t use that info, but I just struggle seeing a top-25 team relegated to a play-in game. I think with 24 wins we are an 8 seed
  9. Copeland had a rebound late in the game that was - dare I say it - mansized. His head looked higher than the rim. He’s a pretty decent athlete.
  10. OurDecay

    With our next win

    So, 5 games left with 4 at home. NU sits at 18-8 (9-4). With one more win, they will clinch a winning conference record. That is RARE for NU BB. Previous winning conference records in the last 35 seasons: 2013-14 (Big Ten): 11-7 [Made NCAA tourney] 1998-99 (Big 12): 10-6 [Made NIT] 1997-98 (Big 12): 10-6 [Made NCAA tourney] 1992-93 (Big 8): 8-6 [Made NCAA tourney] 1990-91 (Big 8): 9-5 [Made NCAA tourney] 1985-96 (Big 8): 8-6 [Made NCAA tourney] The point is, this doesn't happen very often around here. And when it has...it has usually led to NCAA berths. Lets hope that continues. #GBR
  11. Great comment. I was pleasantly surprised by how good the students did. They sounded like a real announcing crew.
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    Bakari Evelyn Transferring

    Whomever we fill in the roster with, I hope they can play good perimeter defense. We need more guys with length that can do that.
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    2018 SG Aguek Arop -> San Diego St

    That is so cool.
  14. Wondering where you all think last night's win at #11 MSU ranks amongst the best wins in MIles' tenure. Taking into account quality of opponent, pressure of opportunity, stakes, style of play, luck, etc. I think I would have this win as the second-best win of his tenure. I would say that the infamous No-Sit-Sunday hosting No. 9 Wisconsin in 2013-14 was the best win he's had...purely due to the level of play, quality of opponent, and stakes. But this road win I would argue was just as good, if not better, than our road win at No. 9 Michigan St two years ago. We won with offense, largely without our top scorer, and the opponent went 11-18 for 3-pt range. Their best player Valentine played great. And we still won. Thoughts?
  15. This isn't entirely fair because roles are different, but discuss: 2014-2015 vs 2015-2016: SG Terran Petteway: (35.0 MPG) 18.2 PPG (39.8% FG), 4.9 RPG, 2.8 APG, 1.1 SPG, 0.9 BPG, 3.4 TOV Vs SG Andrew White: (28.0 MPG), 16.9 PPG (51.6% FG), 6.1 RPG, 0.8 APG, 1.0 SPG, 0.5 BPG, 1.8 TOV PG Tarin Smith: (17.6 MPG), 4.5 PPG (45.5% FG), 1.6 RPG, 0.7 APG, 0.6 SPG, 0.3 BPG, 0.8 TOV Vs PG Glynn Watson: (22.2 MPG), 8.1 PPG (38.9%), 1.9 RPG, 2.6 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 1.1 TOV SF David Rivers: (23.6 MPG), 4.3 PPG (47.7% FG), 4.2 RPG, 0.7 APG, 0.4 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 0.5 TOV Vs SF Jack McVeigh: (17.0 MPG), 5.4 PPG (38.7% FG), 3.1 RPG, 1.0 APG, 0.6 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 0.8 TOV PF Walter Pitchford: (27.1 MPG), 7.2 PPG (37.8% FG), 4.6 RPG, 0.5 APG, 0.3 SPG, 0.5 BPG, 1.1 TOV Vs PF Michael Jacobson: (15.3 MPG), 4.2 PPG (46.2% FG), 3.6 RPG, 0.6 APG, 0.6 SPG, 0.6 BPG, 0.6 TOV PF Leslee Smith: (12.6 MPG), 3.1 PPG (46.0% FG), 3.1 RPG, 0.5 APG, 0.6 SPG, 0.5 BPG, 0.9 TOV Vs PF Ed Morrow: (14.1 MPG), 3.7 PPG (62.7% FG), 3.6 RPG, 0.1 APG, 0.0 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 1.2 TOV
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    Andrew White III

    All of this discussion and we haven't really even discussed how athletic and strong a rebounder he is. For a guy that isn't "explosive" on the offensive end, the dude is swiping defensive rebounds well above the rim. He crashes the boards hard.
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    2016 PF/C Jordy Tshimanga - Signed

    Bump! Kenya Hunter went and saw him last night
  18. I've been waiting to post this until after the Andrew White situation was resolved. Now that it has, I thought people would be interested in the big picture of NU's roster pedigree over the last decade, and how it has changed. I've only gone back as far as the Rivals database does, which is the class of 2002. While I have tried to keep this analysis as objective as possible, there are a number of caveats: - The goal of this particular analysis is to establish perceived PEDIGREE of a player, not quality. And it should be noted, this is their pedigree as a high school senior, in most cases. This is NOT necessarily "who did NU beat?" for players directly in recruiting, but rather how highly they were thought of as prospects. A great example of this would Moses Abraham, whose pedigree as a HS senior was sky-high, but as as senior transfer he was not being recruited by those same schools. I'm interesting in the former rather than the latter, in trying to determine the "stock" the program has been working with. - Coverage of basketball recruiting was not as pervasive a decade ago as it is now, at least not with the amount of players evaluated. The 247 network, good bad or otherwise, has added an aggregate component that combines the ratings from Rivals, Scout and others and goes deeper than the top 150 players, but unfortunately it has only become fully formed in the last 4-5 years. As such, when you get beyond the first 200 or so players, rankings get fairly sketchy. The only way to be fair and apply this was to come up with placeholder values (they are listed in the attached table below) and apply them consistently. The 247 aggregate ranking was used where possible for players. - As you can imagine, rankings have not always consistently been applied. For example, foreign players and JUCOs often times were left completely unrated by Rivals. That said, good prospects have always been given a "star" ranking back since 2002 when Rivals switched to this format. In cases where a player listed no other D1 offers and had no "star" ranking...they are a 0-star, #400 player. Sadly, this has been a regular occurrence at NU until recently. - I did also go player-by-player and list out all their top scholarship offers. More on that later. - This is inherently flawed and only a rough approximation. Recruiting rankings are a crapshoot to begin with, and it gets crazy when you start to try to fill in blanks. Just take this for whatever worth you assign to it. Here is what the last 10 years of scholarship rosters looks like at NU: The first thing that jumps out at you is MASSIVE shift in both star rankings of our rosters, and their overall prospect ranking. Our roster next year will have 8 former top-200 prospects on it. Just look at the delta across the board since Miles' arrival. (And to clarify, yes, if a kid is on scholarship but is sitting out a year, he still counts.) In Doc Sadler's 5th year as NU coach, NU had no top-200 players (can be partly attributed to 247's site not going that far back), and an average star rating of 2.00 for its scholarship roster. Five years later, in Tim Miles year 3, those numbers have jumped to 8 and 2.92. So maybe you think that the improvement is all due to better recruiting websites being in place? Since I know you are curious...lets look at those 2 rosters, and see how they get to those numbers: As you can see, the difference in scholarship offers is pretty profound. If you are curious, last year I did also look at the overall Big Ten, team-by-team, to try and determine where NU stands in this department. It is a good reminder of what we are up against and why what Miles is doing is so important: Enjoy, discuss. RDK
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    Decade-Long NU Recruiting Analysis

    I was wondering who would be the first to ask that! Jeremy Barr, recruited by USC out of HS, was the #118 player in the class of 2005. He spent that one season on our roster.
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    Decade-Long NU Recruiting Analysis

    That's not quite accurate. You're comparing a ranking number of 2 guys for next year's class vs numbers from 2013-14. Going by verbalcommits.com we've gone from the basement to middle of the pack though. Exactly. That's still a great place to be, too.
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    Decade-Long NU Recruiting Analysis

    This is a bump to this thread I had started last year. Many of you provided very good feedback and criticisms on the folly of using recruiting services, offers, etc. to judge recruiting progress. With Elijah Thomas on campus and both Horne and Roby in the fold...I just thought I'd provide an update to show the trends "as is"...without claiming any value from them. I did incorporate some feedback from you guys on how to evaluate unrated/unevaluated players. Also...Isaiah Roby is a prime example of how you can't always use "offers" to judge a recruit. He's clearly elite, highly rated...a top-150 player. Yet his offer list is scant. And that's for the obvious reason that we were on him very, very early, and he committed to us very, very early. Anyway, thought you guys would enjoy: For context, the 2013-2014 Big Ten Conference using the same criteria: I guess an immediate takeaway is...we are trending in the direction that would appear to be competitive (from a talent standpoint) with the bulk of the league. That's one of those things that lead you to want to give Miles & co. a long, long leash and let it play out for a bit. Gotta be patient. RDK
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    2015 G/F JUCO Deshawn Freeman Hutch CC

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/deshawn-freeman-1.html Update: Averaging 13.1 PPG and 5.3 RPG for Rutgers this season, with a high game of 23 points and 8 rebounds. Has 8 blocks in 7 games also.
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    Jack as a starter, NOT Tai

    Tai Webster, last 6 games:SELA: 20 mins; 13 pts, 6 reb, 1 ast, 2 to, 2 stl, (5-7 FG, 1-1 3pt, 2-2 FT)ARPB: 23 mins; 4 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 2 to, 0 stl, 1 blk (1-3 FG, 0-1 3pt, 2-3 FT)CINCY: 29 mins; 21 pts, 8 reb, 3 ast, 1 to, 0 stl, (7-12 FG, 2-3 3pt, 5-5 FT)TENN: 36 mins; 18 pts, 2 reb, 0 ast, 3 to, 1 stl, (7-13 FG, 1-3 3pt, 3-4 FT)MIAMI: 30 mins; 9 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 2 to, 1 stl, (4-11 FG, 1-2 3pt, 0-0 FT)ABCU: 37 mins; 10 pts, 5 reb, 0 ast, 0 to, 1 st, 2 blk (5-12 FG, 0-1 3pt, 0-2 FT) TOTALS: 175 mins (29.2 mpg), 75 pts (12.5 ppg), 31 reb (5.2 rpg), 10 ast (1.7 apg), 10 to (1.7 tpg), 5 stl (0.8 spg)29-58 (50.0% FG), 5-11 (45.4% 3PT), 12-16 (75.0% FT) 2015 TOTALS: 550 mins (18.3 mpg), 118 pts (3.9 ppg), 57 reb (1.9 rpg), 35 ast (1.2 apg), 39 to (1.3 tpg), 21 stl (0.7 spg) 2014 TOTALS: 729 mins (22.8 mpg), 126 pts (3.9 ppg), 66 reb (2.1 rpg), 63 ast (2.0 apg), 58 to (1.8 tpg), 24 stl (0.8 spg)
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    Terran Petteway as a pro

    Fantastic article on TP and the game from a scouting site: http://upsidemotor.com/2015/12/05/terran-petteway-call-up-d-league-mad-ants-charge-hardaway-tavares/
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