Nebraska (2-0) vs. St. John's (3-0) Game Thread

[Bugeaters1]

 

Enjoy!!

[MichHusker]

Certainly paths to victory in the game for us. Wonder if we use more zone considering St Johns had 29 turnovers vs them. Flip side to side is St Johns about 39% from 3 and 57% overall

Edited November 16, 2022 by MichHusker

[hhcmatt]

This has the looks of a team that is going to blow some games and hopefully one of those games is against us.

[Chuck Taylor]

1 hour ago, Bugeaters1 said:

 

Enjoy!!

 

Seems like Molly Hatchet opened for somebody at Pershing back in the '70s, but maybe I'm not remembering that quite right.

 

[49r]

 

[Cowboy Kermit]

St. John’s opens as 9.5 point favorites over the Huskers


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[BigTate]

1 hour ago, Chuck Taylor said:

 

Seems like Molly Hatchet opened for somebody at Pershing back in the '70s, but maybe I'm not remembering that quite right.

 

They opened for Blue Oyster Cult in Omaha in the late 70s or early 80s also.

Edited November 16, 2022 by BigTate

[Nighthawk]

1 hour ago, Chuck Taylor said:

 

Seems like Molly Hatchet opened for somebody at Pershing back in the '70s, but maybe I'm not remembering that quite right.

 

Only mention of them at Pershing. https://www.concertarchives.org/concerts/billy-squier-molly-hatchet

[Bugeaters1]

5 hours ago, BigTate said:

They opened for Blue Oyster Cult in Omaha in the late 70s or early 80s also.

If I remeber right MH played in Hastings with .38 special.

 

[huskerbill85]

This is a big game for us

[Handy Johnson]

9 hours ago, Chuck Taylor said:

 

Seems like Molly Hatchet opened for somebody at Pershing back in the '70s, but maybe I'm not remembering that quite right.

 

I saw them open for Billy Squire at the Pershing in ‘85. 

[nuhusker7]

Is DW confirmed out again?

[millerhusker]

Gameday! I don't expect a win tonight. But I expect us to scrap and be competitive. Feels good to have that expectation again. Been awhile. 

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, nuhusker7 said:

Is DW confirmed out again?

 

Pretty sure yes. It's a health issue where the recovery time is measured not in terms of days or weeks but in terms of games. Six to be precise.

[Bugeaters1]

 
Pretty sure yes. It's a health issue where the recovery time is measured not in terms of days or weeks but in terms of games. Six to be precise.

Just seen a tweet that DW is day to day.

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[cornfed24-7]

13 hours ago, huskerbill85 said:

This is a big game for us

I have a bit of optimism going into this game. I just hope it isn't crushed. I have a bit of doom and gloom as well. Because I am a Hussker fan which generally means my optimism gets crushed.

[Nebrasketball1979]

20 hours ago, Cowboy Kermit said:

St. John’s opens as 9.5 point favorites over the Huskers


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I think what's really interesting is that the O/U was set at 159.5 - that seems absurdly high.  Unless there is overtime, I struggle seeing this many points.  I think we are more competent defensively this year (at least we play harder) and we will still likely struggle to score at a super high clip.  Maybe St. John's is a horrible defensive team and this will be a track meet but I'm skeptical.

[MichHusker]

8 minutes ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

 

I think what's really interesting is that the O/U was set at 159.5 - that seems absurdly high.  Unless there is overtime, I struggle seeing this many points.  I think we are more competent defensively this year (at least we play harder) and we will still likely struggle to score at a super high clip.  Maybe St. John's is a horrible defensive team and this will be a track meet but I'm skeptical.

According to barttorvik.com, we are both top 25 in pace. In fact, last i checked St Johns was #2. I think the only way we are in the 60's is if we turn it over a bunch and/or shoot horribly. Both of those would mean we lose by 20+

[Nebrasketball1979]

1 hour ago, MichHusker said:

According to barttorvik.com, we are both top 25 in pace. In fact, last i checked St Johns was #2. I think the only way we are in the 60's is if we turn it over a bunch and/or shoot horribly. Both of those would mean we lose by 20+

Yes, good points and it will be interesting to see how the game flow unfolds.  My guess is that our current pace has been more dictated by the quality of our opponents then hopefully a concerted effort.  Hoiberg's style has always been fast but my hope, possibly a pipe dream, is that he's learned that against Big 10 and higher quality teams that unless you really have the dudes to outscore someone, you're best bet is to ugly the game up and win with defense.

[Jacob Padilla]

The pre-game talk was all about St. John's pressure, but it's worth pointing out that Nebraska is forcing turnovers at a higher rate than St. John's does. The Johnnies are a little above average in that area after being 33rd last year. They have, however, been shooting the ball at an outlier level for them to this point. Their offense has been better than their defense to this point against low-level competition. 

[Jacob Padilla]

3 minutes ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

Yes, good points and it will be interesting to see how the game flow unfolds.  My guess is that our current pace has been more dictated by the quality of our opponents then hopefully a concerted effort.  Hoiberg's style has always been fast but my hope, possibly a pipe dream, is that he's learned that against Big 10 and higher quality teams that unless you really have the dudes to outscore someone, you're best bet is to ugly the game up and win with defense.

 

You can focus on defense while still pushing the pace strategically. If Nebraska is going to struggle in the halfcourt offensively, they're going to need to steal some easy points wherever they can, and trying to beat the defense down the floor is one way to do that. I think Griesel has done a good job of slowing the tempo down when the situation calls for it. I'm not convinced Nebraska has the personnel to be good enough on defense to consistently hold teams in the upper 50s or lower 60s; they're going to have to find a way to generate points. What they can't do is force shots early in possessions and force tempo that way (which they're not; KenPom has them 255th in average possession length through two games). 

[hhcmatt]

1 hour ago, Jacob Padilla said:

The pre-game talk was all about St. John's pressure, but it's worth pointing out that Nebraska is forcing turnovers at a higher rate than St. John's does. The Johnnies are a little above average in that area after being 33rd last year. They have, however, been shooting the ball at an outlier level for them to this point. Their offense has been better than their defense to this point against low-level competition. 

 

The last couple of teams weren't exactly crumbling under their often out of sync pressure.  They threw zone at Central Connecticut to take control. 

[Nighthawk]

So what's everyone's prediction? Huskers or Molly Hatchet? 

[cipsucks]

I predict Nebraska will be the wort on St. John's resume.  

[hhcmatt]

Your refs tonight: DJ Carstensen, Brian Dorsey, Don Daily