Successful Non-Con?

[nustudent]

Creighton is a legit top 15, if not top 10 team. 

Uber talented in the starting 5.  

 

They might win 25+ in the regular season with their schedule.

[hal9000]

Wouldn't it be sweet if out of all the recent years this would be the year we beat them.  

[Hoops_Legend]

Nobody on this board would expect a win every year vs Creighton.  The expectation with the pay grade of this coaching staff should be to win at home.  Hasn't happened.  The gap between us and them is clearly widening not shrinking.  That is absolutely not acceptable.  Let's just win and shut the topic up.

[uneblinstu]

I would disagree with the notion that the gap is widening. I think the gap is closer than it's been in a while, at least since Dougie was on campus. The problem is that both programs have improved and CU's improvement has put them into the top 15. NU's just put themselves in the middle (I think) of the Big Ten. The talent gap isn't as wide as it's been, though. For NU to have won as infrequently as they have is inexcusable.

[Hoops_Legend]

Look at margin of victory for Creighton while we've been under Miles.  How's the gap not widening?

[The Polish Rifle]

11 minutes ago, Hoops_Legend said:

Look at margin of victory for Creighton while we've been under Miles.  How's the gap not widening?

[bball23]

16 minutes ago, The Polish Rifle said:

Every  post of his brings up CU. He's a troll. Ignore him.

[Silverbacked1]

I tried duringthe football game and got down arrowed so watch out.

[kldm64]

I agree with nustudent that CU is loaded with talent and might be the best and most complete team CU has ever put together.  They can beat you in so many ways and are doing it with a couple of local kids getting a ton of minutes.  That is one frustration with NU is they don't recruit Omaha kids like Thomas and Patton.  Both are solid players.  I don't expect NU to beat CU this year but I hope like hell it happens.  They are clearly a better team but it would be pretty painful for the NU fan base and Miles personally to take a beating from them again.  And if I had to predict right now, I'd bet we lose by 20+ points.  I sure our staff and players prove me wrong.

[AuroranHusker]

Nebraska will get it done this year vs the Blue Jakes from eastern Omaha.

 

 

 

[Fun fact. A Jake is a young male turkey.]

[OmahaHusker]

Watched Creighton play Ole Miss last night. It looks like they'll be without one of their big men now when they play us. Still...they have height in Patton and a couple other guys off the bench. Looked like Ole Miss really bothered Maurice Watson with their 1-3-1 especially early. I wonder if Miles will try that. We'll need to crash the boards hard since Creighton isn't a great rebounding team. Given the fact we'll have to have one of our best shooting nights of the season, I think we can make it a game at home. I just don't think Miles job depends on it like this thread is pointing out.

[Fullbacksympathy]

We have a complete roster of talented, high-character kids who get along well.  That's going to make us a tough out for anyone who plays us.  Unfortunately, we are also very young, so we're likely to lay a few eggs here and there.  

 

That said, I don't see anyone on our schedule who will blow us out.  Beat us by 10-12?  Sure, but I suspect we're going to start learning how important it is to change the athleticism of the roster the way TM has when we play these top 15 teams.  When I look at CU, they are very talented, but not loaded with NBA players like KU.  They're talented like we are, but they have more experienced players.  We'll match up well.  

 

I actually think the Dayton game coming up is the most important game of the non-con.  This is an annual tournament team that we are very capable of beating despite being an underdog.  They play with a ton of intensity that we're going to have to match.  Beat Dayton and the CU predictions will start getting a whole lot closer.  

[uneblinstu]

1 hour ago, LK1 said:

I actually think the Dayton game coming up is the most important game of the non-con. 

I agree, mostly because beating Dayton means playing games that will positively impact the RPI, losing it means the potential to play games, at least one, possibly two, that will hurt the RPI. I'd rather play good competition than games that will boost the win column.

[Hoops_Legend]

On November 22, 2016 at 0:19 PM, uneblinstu said:

I agree, mostly because beating Dayton means playing games that will positively impact the RPI, losing it means the potential to play games, at least one, possibly two, that will hurt the RPI. I'd rather play good competition than games that will boost the win column.

 

Beat Dayton and lose to Creighton, minimal momentum.  Beat Creighton and lose to Dayton, we've got some in state credibility back and momentum.

 

No way in hell is Dayton more important than Creighton.

Edited November 24, 2016 by Hoops_Legend

[Huskerpapa]

Haha...tough to say one loss is better than another.  Much depends on the dance judges.  Is winning a home game more or less important than winning on a neutral site.  I will be honest, beating Creighton this year (on any court) will be difficult at best.  There is no way they will have a let down against us.  So I will take any win at any time against each and every team.

[nustudent]

Taking emotion and sentiment out of the equation, there is no question that Dayton is a more important game.   Completely RPI based.   Has a trickle down effect for 3 games, not just 1.

 

Creighton will likely be a top 10 team when we play them.   It's a top 10 win, but just one and at home.

 

Dayton gives you a top 30-40 win....but a non home game which is arguably more important.   You then get UCLA and either Virginia Tech or A&M.   That's 3 straight non home games against at worst top 40 type opponents.

 

You lose to Dayton, you are then playing at best top 100 type opponents, likely far worse the rest of the way

[Hoops_Legend]

12 hours ago, nustudent said:

Taking emotion and sentiment out of the equation, there is no question that Dayton is a more important game.   Completely RPI based.   Has a trickle down effect for 3 games, not just 1.

 

Creighton will likely be a top 10 team when we play them.   It's a top 10 win, but just one and at home.

 

Dayton gives you a top 30-40 win....but a non home game which is arguably more important.   You then get UCLA and either Virginia Tech or A&M.   That's 3 straight non home games against at worst top 40 type opponents.

 

You lose to Dayton, you are then playing at best top 100 type opponents, likely far worse the rest of the way

I understand your point, however, you have to look bigger picture and forward movement of the program.  Miles finds a way to beat Creighton consistently and now your feeling like we're moving up, closing the gap.  Trickles down to fan base and recruiting.  

 

We continue to be a 2nd rate program compared to Creighton and you get what we got:. 2 local kids playing in a Creighton uniform that we'd love to have right now.  Oh ya, one is 7'1'' tall.  And you lose your best player to transfer because we are not  NCAA caliber or viewed as a strong enough program for NBA talent to reach their potential status.

 

Those things have to change, beating Creighton is crucial to our program.

[HuskerFever]

23 minutes ago, Hoops_Legend said:

Trickles down to fan base and recruiting.  

 

There is no way that non-Nebraska native recruits care at all about the CU/NU matchup. I remember one year that half of the team didn't even know it was a "rivalry" until the week of the game!

[Hoops_Legend]

2 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

 

There is no way that non-Nebraska native recruits care at all about the CU/NU matchup. I remember one year that half of the team didn't even know it was a "rivalry" until the week of the game!

You must have missed the point about the 2 local kids playing quality minutes for them that we'd love to have, and the 7'1" thing.  

 

Instead, we have zero local kids making an impact.

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, Hoops_Legend said:

You must have missed the point about the 2 local kids playing quality minutes for them that we'd love to have, and the 7'1" thing.  

 

Instead, we have zero local kids making an impact.

Not saying it wouldn't be nice to have those guys, but I could give a darn where our players are from as long as they can perform!  

 

I am am happy with what we have right now and am looking forward to seeing them progress.  If they do what I think they can, there'll be no need for those two up north.

[Hoops_Legend]

13 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Not saying it wouldn't be nice to have those guys, but I could give a darn where our players are from as long as they can perform!  

 

I am am happy with what we have right now and am looking forward to seeing them progress.  If they do what I think they can, there'll be no need for those two up north.

I hope you're right.  But show me a 7' big man that we have that would make you not want their guy over the next 4 years'

[bball23]

Why oh why do you keep responding to this Creighton fan?  It's what he wants.  

 

Here you go Hoops Legend.  This will make you feel better.

 

Creighton is the best team in the Nation.  Hands down. No debate.  

 

Happy Thanksgiving!

[Hoops_Legend]

1 minute ago, bball23 said:

Why oh why do you keep responding to this Creighton fan?  It's what he wants.  

 

Here you go Hoops Legend.  This will make you feel better.

 

Creighton is the best team in the Nation.  Hands down. No debate.  

 

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

This is the type of crap that is bad for our progress.  I simply express the reality of our need to be the dominant in state team, and now I'm a Creighton fan!

 

Unreal.  We really have been beaten into expecting mediocrity.

[HB]

8 minutes ago, Hoops_Legend said:

 

This is the type of crap that is bad for our progress.  I simply express the reality of our need to be the dominant in state team, and now I'm a Creighton fan!

 

Unreal.  We really have been beaten into expecting mediocrity.

I don't know,or care, if you're a Creighton fan.  But you're a broken record.   And a huge douche.   

[nustudent]

7 hours ago, Hoops_Legend said:

I understand your point, however, you have to look bigger picture and forward movement of the program.  Miles finds a way to beat Creighton consistently and now your feeling like we're moving up, closing the gap.  Trickles down to fan base and recruiting.  

 

We continue to be a 2nd rate program compared to Creighton and you get what we got:. 2 local kids playing in a Creighton uniform that we'd love to have right now.  Oh ya, one is 7'1'' tall.  And you lose your best player to transfer because we are not  NCAA caliber or viewed as a strong enough program for NBA talent to reach their potential status.

 

Those things have to change, beating Creighton is crucial to our program.

Idiot or troll.   Trying to determine.   Undecided as of right now