Norm Peterson Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 Hadn't seen this posted yet, so I'll leave it right here: hhcmatt 1 Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) After the BC game Miles also stated that by every metric they use he is our most efficient player. Makes you wonder why he's just getting 17.5 minutes a game. Foul trouble? Not sure whose minutes he takes but it would be nice to get him up to 25 if possible. Edited December 13, 2017 by huskerbaseball13 Quote
hhcmatt Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 He's on sort of a Tai Webster type trajectory in terms of usage. I'd like to see him get there faster than Tai because I think he's the superior scorer and shooter. For those that don't know TS% = True shooting percentage. From Kenpom: True shooting percentage (TS%): (New) This is Gasaway’s old PPWS divided by 2. It’s like eFG%, but throws in trips to the line and converts it to a shooting percentage that approximates what 2-point percentage a player would need to have to score the points he produces on all of his shooting attempts. Isaiah Roby15 · Dixon, IL · 2-3-98 Ht Wt Yr G %Min ORtg %Poss %Shots eFG% TS% OR% DR% ARate TORate Blk% Stl% FC/40 FD/40 FTRate FTM-FTA Pct 2PM-2PA Pct 3PM-3PA Pct 2018PF 92 Nebraska National Rank 6-8 225 So 10 40.0 117.0401 18.0 16.0 62.8 64.8 7.6487 20.3270 13.6 19.6 7.890 1.3 6.4 4.0 46.5 14-20 .700 18-30 .600339 6-13 .462 Conference-onlyConference Rank 2 50.0 122.720 9.1 8.7 100.0 92.4 2.6 19.117 0.0 30.8 2.2 0.0 7.0 2.0 40.0 1-2 .500 2-3 .667 2-2 .999 vs. Tier A+B* 5 44.5 113.2 12.1 12.6 70.6 73.0 2.2 20.1 5.4 21.1 4.1 0.0 8.1 2.6 35.3 5-6 .833 6-8 .750 4-9 .444 vs. Tier A* 3 48.3 146.5 12.8 14.2 76.9 78.9 1.5 22.2 9.5 7.7 3.3 0.0 6.9 3.4 46.2 5-6 .833 4-6 .667 4-7 .571 Age: 19.9 (-0.5) Similar: Keyon Carter '09 (933), Marchello Vealy '07 (924), Matt McCarthy '17 (923), Mike Morrison '10 (923), Kore White '11 (923) 2017PF 107 Nebraska 6-8 214 Fr 29 35.5 83.2 16.2 13.5 39.9 44.0 8.6 13.3 9.2 29.6 5.8 2.1 5.0 2.5 23.6 16-21 .762 31-70 .443 3-19 .158 Conference-only 17 38.6 85.5 15.4 11.9 48.0 50.2 8.5 14.0 9.5 34.5 6.4 2.5 5.2 2.1 19.6 7-10 .700 20-42 .476 3-9 .333 vs. Tier A+B* 20 35.4 74.6 15.8 14.1 34.1 37.6 8.6 13.1 10.1 26.9 6.4 2.7 5.3 2.6 22.7 10-15 .667 18-52 .346 3-14 .214 vs. Tier A* 15 36.1 79.9 14.7 13.0 42.6 45.0 7.0 11.8 9.9 28.5 6.8 2.7 5.2 2.4 23.4 7-11 .636 17-40 .425 2-7 .286 Age: 18.9 (-0.5) Similar: Marcus Thornton '11 (928), Devonta Pollard '13 (926), Armani Moore '13 (926), Richard Ross '12 (925), Jonathan Graham '12 (924) Career 30-41 .732 49-100 .490 9-32 .281 Quote
hhcmatt Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, huskerbaseball13 said: Makes you wonder why he's just getting 17.5 minutes a game. Foul trouble mostly. There is a reason that Tim was giving him the business after two Minny guys ran into each other and the refs called it on him. Also that 4 minutes vs Long Beach St drags down that average. You throw that game out and you're looking at 19.1 mpg If you look back up at those numbers i posted his Fouls/40 minute average is 6.4. He's obviously athletic enough to where he can move to avoid some of those things so it's mentally being locked into not committing unnecessary fouls. For some guys that never happens. For him, it's probably just a matter of when. jdostal and Red Don 2 Quote
49r Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, huskerbaseball13 said: After the BC game Miles also stated that by every metric they use he is our most efficient player. Makes you wonder why he's just getting 17.5 minutes a game. Foul trouble? Not sure whose minutes he takes but it would be nice to get him up to 25 if possible. Better depth, and probably because of the late-season swoon that has plagued this program since 2014, Miles wants to try to keep guys fresher for the stretch run in February and March. If I had to guess. Quote
kldm64 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 The bigger issue is that he rotates with Copeland and Copeland is getting the starter minutes and Roby is getting bench minutes. Fouls might have limited his minutes in a few games but there have been many games where he wasn't in foul trouble and still got less than 20 minutes a game. The impact Roby can have on a game is sometimes the difference between winning and losing. No reason Roby should be getting some of Jordy's minutes. dustystehl 1 Quote
dustystehl Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 46 minutes ago, kldm64 said: The bigger issue is that he rotates with Copeland and Copeland is getting the starter minutes and Roby is getting bench minutes. Fouls might have limited his minutes in a few games but there have been many games where he wasn't in foul trouble and still got less than 20 minutes a game. The impact Roby can have on a game is sometimes the difference between winning and losing. No reason Roby should be getting some of Jordy's minutes. I assume you mean, "No reason Roby SHOULDN'T be getting some of Jordy's minutes."? If so, I totally agree! kldm64 1 Quote
kldm64 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, dustystehl said: I assume you mean, "No reason Roby SHOULDN'T be getting some of Jordy's minutes."? If so, I totally agree! Correct.....Thanks for catching my typo. Quote
rwmctrofholz Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 54 minutes ago, dustystehl said: I assume you mean, "No reason Roby SHOULDN'T be getting some of Jordy's minutes."? If so, I totally agree! Agreed. Seem to be a better team without Jordy out there. Was really hoping he'd develop his off hand in the off season. On the other side of this, Jordy may also just appear* more oafish and uncoordinated with this year's team who, in my view, is much more athletic than last year's team. jason2486 1 Quote
hskr4life Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 While I also agree that Roby should get a few more minutes, it was nice to hear (or read) Miles the other day continue to back Jordy even though he is struggling. Jordy needs to take that and run with it. I remember a quote stating something like "No one is taking it harder than Jordy himself." At some point, we are going to need Jordy and what he can provide. It is nice to not have him totally in the dog house and it is nice that we can afford to allow him minutes to try and improve. With Roby, he is far and away better than he was last year right now. The fluidity that he plays with is much more smooth right now than at any point in the previous year. He will only get better as well. He has such a high upside that it is hard to not to get giddy whenever he is on the court. He also seems to have a good head on his shoulders and should be someone that won't stop working... even if he does become the best player on the court some day. BigTate, dustystehl and hal9000 3 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 I will repeat this for at least the forth time...if Isaiah Roby is coming off the bench this year, it tells me we will have a dang good team. This dude is as talented a player we have had at UNL in years. hskr4life, BigTate, Red Don and 1 other 1 3 Quote
hskr4life Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, huskercwg said: I will repeat this for at least the forth time...if Isaiah Roby is coming off the bench this year, it tells me we will have a dang good team. This dude is as talented a player we have had at UNL in years. Agree. And it's not just because he isn't starting. It is truly because we have a legit and capable starting 5 and 4 deep bench. Overall has to the the most well rounded team that Nebraska has had in quite some time. Still looking to put all the puzzle pieces together, but the pieces are at least there. Quote
dustystehl Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, huskercwg said: I will repeat this for at least the forth time...if Isaiah Roby is coming off the bench this year, it tells me we will have a dang good team. This dude is as talented a player we have had at UNL in years. Absolutely! I don't think we are advocating for Roby to start; we are just advocating for Roby to get more minutes. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Posted December 13, 2017 Have we ever had a better 6th man? Quote
AuroranHusker Posted December 13, 2017 Report Posted December 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said: Have we ever had a better 6th man? 1990-91 was a pretty great lineup.... as I recall it was Eric Piatkowski as the sixth man. Cazzie22 1 Quote
Popular Post hhcmatt Posted December 13, 2017 Popular Post Report Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said: Have we ever had a better 6th man? Sorry, I thought you said bigger bobcat402, Shawn Eichorst's Toupee, Silverbacked1 and 8 others 1 3 7 Quote
Swan88 Posted December 14, 2017 Report Posted December 14, 2017 Here's an Omaha World-Herald article from this morning on Isaiah Roby. hhcmatt and Norm Peterson 2 Quote
hhcmatt Posted December 14, 2017 Report Posted December 14, 2017 Maybe it's just me but I never got the "coach is yelling at someone they are going to leave" worries. Spend 5 minutes watching Brad Underwood. Quote
Handy Johnson Posted December 14, 2017 Report Posted December 14, 2017 Whenever we're on the BTN, the announcers (Shaun whats-his-name) rave about this kid... Quote
uneblinstu Posted December 14, 2017 Report Posted December 14, 2017 Shon Morris Handy Johnson 1 Quote
royalfan Posted December 14, 2017 Report Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 11:34 AM, dustystehl said: I assume you mean, "No reason Roby SHOULDN'T be getting some of Jordy's minutes."? If so, I totally agree! Me too. We need to go to the positionless basketball concepts that so many NBA teams are using. This is the type of roster that requires it. And we can get more movement on offense without the big fella clogging things up so much. dustystehl and Coaches kid 2 Quote
Coaches kid Posted December 14, 2017 Report Posted December 14, 2017 To Royal's point about "clogging things up", it appears to me that Glynn is often expending lots of energy dealing with aggressive hedges on high pick and rolls. Bringing the big guy out for the screens does sometimes does appear to be clogging things up. I wonder if, at times, we might be better served by clearing out a side of the court and letting him take guys off the dribble without an on-ball screen. Seems to me he could beat guys one-on-one and either get to the basket or find the open man after help comes. I know we have run some sets with Taylor at point with Glynn running off of some screens, which is a nice wrinkle. dustystehl 1 Quote
nuhusker7 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Posted December 15, 2017 12 hours ago, hhcdimes said: Maybe it's just me but I never got the "coach is yelling at someone they are going to leave" worries. Spend 5 minutes watching Brad Underwood. With Roby the thing that always bothered me was that I thought he wasn't playing with enough confidence, and that's why I wasn't a huge fan of the way Miles always yelled at him. I wasn't so much worried about a potential transfer. Hearing the way Miles describes yelling at him is an interesting one, and makes a lot of sense looking back at everything. I also understand that Miles expects everything from him because he does have the potential to be great, so Miles is just that much harder on him than everyone else, which could be a positive or could be a hinderence. Coaches kid 1 Quote
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