Banton NBA Draft Thread

[Norm Peterson]

21 minutes ago, Jacob Padilla said:

 

He's just not very quick. Having other poor defenders around him doesn't help, but he'd have a problem moving his feet and defending in space no matter what team he was on.

 

He's slow. And to make matters worse, I think he's put on some bad weight. I take one look at his belly fat and see a taller, more athletic, slightly less handsome version of me some years ago and I think to myself, "Luka, careful, you're going to hit 350 and wonder where all the weight came from and I'll be there to tell you it was all those jamocha milkshakes from Arbys."

[hskr4life]

I think this thread might slow it's roll a little bit after the first batch of Big 10 games.  Unfortunately he has struggled against the better competition.  I wonder if him playing PG and trying to "create" has hurt what he can actually do?

[Fullbacksympathy]

Garza is the next Marc Gasol.

 

 

[Huskerpapa]

Banton is one of many on our team that can penetrate when we spread the floor.  But like last year, defenses can collapse because we don't do a good job spreading the floor and we don't have players who can consistently knock down open looks; including three pointers. 

 

For many years now (really since Danny left) we have recruited scorers not shooters.  We desperately, desperately need shooters to go along with the scorers.

[huskerbill85]

2 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

Banton is one of many on our team that can penetrate when we spread the floor.  But like last year, defenses can collapse because we don't do a good job spreading the floor and we don't have players who can consistently knock down open looks; including three pointers. 

 

For many years now (really since Danny left) we have recruited scorers not shooters.  We desperately, desperately need shooters to go along with the scorers.

We got 1 coming in next year from a JC

[hugh42]

2 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

Banton is one of many on our team that can penetrate when we spread the floor.  But like last year, defenses can collapse because we don't do a good job spreading the floor and we don't have players who can consistently knock down open looks; including three pointers. 

 

For many years now (really since Danny left) we have recruited scorers not shooters.  We desperately, desperately need shooters to go along with the scorers.

 

I would say that is what Nee did as well as we had very few shooters during his tenure and the same can be said under Iba. That appears to be changing under Fred.

[aphilso1]

I just don't see Banton being draftable right now.  Yes, a tall, long PG is an intriguing prospect.  But right now he is a below average shooter and an average passer.  His lateral quickness is good for his size, but still not great.  He also doesn't seem to have that killer instinct.  With Teddy on the pine it was Banton's chance to step up and shine.  Instead, he was nearly invisible and Trey took over.

 

I think we see Banton wearing Scarlet and Cream for at least one more year.

Edited January 3, 2021 by aphilso1

[49r]

 

[Zona Hoops]

All aboard the Banton train! 

 

Check out our in-depth scouting report on him if you have the time! Thanks.

 

Dalano Banton NBA Scouting Report

[Swan88]

17 hours ago, Zona Hoops said:

All aboard the Banton train! 

 

Check out our in-depth scouting report on him if you have the time! Thanks.

 

Dalano Banton NBA Scouting Report

Very cool!  Thanks for sharing.

[Cazzie22]

On 1/2/2021 at 10:35 PM, LK1 said:

Garza is the next Marc Gasol.

 

 

Regardless, he will be a multi-millionaire.

[Fullbacksympathy]

17 minutes ago, Cazzie22 said:

Regardless, he will be a multi-millionaire.

 

It wasn't an insult!  Gasol has had an awesome career.

[Jacob Padilla]

On 1/2/2021 at 10:35 PM, LK1 said:

Garza is the next Marc Gasol.

 

 

 

At his peak Gasol was one of the best defensive players in the NBA. 

[millerhusker]

Gasol is one of the best defensive big men in the last 20 years. Also one of the best passing bigs probably ever. Garza doesn’t have either of those traits.

[Fullbacksympathy]

10 hours ago, Jacob Padilla said:

 

At his peak Gasol was one of the best defensive players in the NBA. 

 
Dude read one line above this response.  I wasn’t being facetious.  Marc Gasol has had a fantastic career.  I think Garza will be better because he already has 3pt range.  He’s an excellent NBA prospect.  

[Fullbacksympathy]

5 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Gasol is one of the best defensive big men in the last 20 years. Also one of the best passing bigs probably ever. Garza doesn’t have either of those traits.

 

Really?  I think Garza is a very good passer from the post.  

[Jacob Padilla]

On 1/8/2021 at 11:56 PM, LK1 said:

 
Dude read one line above this response.  I wasn’t being facetious.  Marc Gasol has had a fantastic career.  I think Garza will be better because he already has 3pt range.  He’s an excellent NBA prospect.  

And my point was I see no outcome where Garza comes anywhere close to Gasol on defense, and that's a huge part of who he he is as a player. I just don't see the comparison at all, and I'll be shocked if Garza comes anywhere close to having the kind of pro career Gasol has. 

[Fullbacksympathy]

10 hours ago, Jacob Padilla said:

And my point was I see no outcome where Garza comes anywhere close to Gasol on defense, and that's a huge part of who he he is as a player. I just don't see the comparison at all, and I'll be shocked if Garza comes anywhere close to having the kind of pro career Gasol has. 

 

Oh gotcha.  Understood.  I thought you were piggybacking off the one who thought I was being facetious.  

 

We shall see, but I think Garza will be a much more polished rookie offensively than Gasol was.  I think Garza's PnR defense has improved quite a bit, but he's not on the same planet at Gasol there.  I was thinking more in terms of offensive mobility.  Garza is a tad bigger, maybe runs the court a bit better, but Gasol is a smarter defender.  

[millerhusker]

23 minutes ago, LK1 said:

 

Oh gotcha.  Understood.  I thought you were piggybacking off the one who thought I was being facetious.  

 

We shall see, but I think Garza will be a much more polished rookie offensively than Gasol was.  I think Garza's PnR defense has improved quite a bit, but he's not on the same planet at Gasol there.  I was thinking more in terms of offensive mobility.  Garza is a tad bigger, maybe runs the court a bit better, but Gasol is a smarter defender.  

Not to keep arguing, but Gasol is bigger than Garza. Gasol’s official height is 7’1” and he has a 7’4” wingspan (before two years ago, NBA teams didn’t have to list official measurements, which was stupid. That’s why guys like Dwight Howard all of a sudden shrunk 3 inches).
Iowa lists Garza at 6’11”, which means he’ll likely measure in at 6’10” or less at the combine. Garza is 10 pounds heavier than Gasol, but Gasol has thinned down since he got to Toronto (and now LA). He was much bigger in his prime. 

[Fullbacksympathy]

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

Not to keep arguing, but Gasol is bigger than Garza. Gasol’s official height is 7’1” and he has a 7’4” wingspan (before two years ago, NBA teams didn’t have to list official measurements, which was stupid. That’s why guys like Dwight Howard all of a sudden shrunk 3 inches).
Iowa lists Garza at 6’11”, which means he’ll likely measure in at 6’10” or less at the combine. Garza is 10 pounds heavier than Gasol, but Gasol has thinned down since he got to Toronto (and now LA). He was much bigger in his prime. 

 

Marc is listed at 6'11" and 255, I believe.  His big bro is the one who is 7'1".  Garza has 10lbs on Gasol.  

[millerhusker]

7 minutes ago, LK1 said:

 

Marc is listed at 6'11" and 255, I believe.  His big bro is the one who is 7'1".  Garza has 10lbs on Gasol.  

You're right. I was looking at his espn profile, which apparently hasn't updated with his official measurement. That's annoying. 

[49r]

Seems like appropriate discussion for the Dalano Banton NBA Draft thread.

[hhcmatt]

On 12/18/2020 at 10:43 AM, GoBigFred said:

I have no idea about Banton yet, and I don't mean to hijack this thread, but how is Luka Garza a projected late 2nd round pick? It's befuddling to me how time and time again NBA GMs and scouts outthink themselves and draft some kid from overseas who has "potential" but we never hear from him again, but Garza is literally dominating NCAA Division I basketball and is apparently barely draftable. 

 

To update this subtopic, Garza was drafted in the late 2nd round by the Pistons (52nd) and made their roster.

[busticket]

39 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

To update this subtopic, Garza was drafted in the late 2nd round by the Pistons (52nd) and made their roster.

Bill Laimbeer 2.0

[49r]

46 minutes ago, busticket said:

Bill Laimbeer 2.0

 

Except nowhere remotely close to being as likable.