Next years starting lineup.

[Navin R. Johnson]

1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

It is going to be real tough to project a line up at this point.  Not that the effort isn't fun, but man, I simply do not know what each of these kids bring to the table.

 

I would guess that Mack and Jervay will start, but beyond those two???

 

Might be one of those teams that it is not a question of who starts, but who finishes. I'm guessing we will sign more and might see some we have now transfer out.

[GoBigRed]

How many times have you guys watched Cam Mack's YouTube highlights? I think I'm going on 5 or 6 and I am still blown away at how good he is, especially his passing. He is going to make everyone else on our team light years better. 

 

Also, have you guys noticed how easily our likely 1-2-3 guards (Mack, Green, Burke) can dunk the ball in their film? I can remember the days not too long ago when it seemed like we had 1 or 2 guys on our entire team who could dunk the ball in a game, and they definitely weren't the guards (or Jorge Brian Diaz). Kids are either crazy athletic these days, or we're actually getting them to come here. Probably a mix of both. 

Edited April 29, 2019 by GoBigFred

[Norm Peterson]

Mack makes good passes. He also flies by people on the dribble. His acceleration and change of direction are something to behold. That was also something that was impressive about Burke when I watched him during the open scrimmage last year.  He had an extra gear and could blow by people to get to the rim.

 

Mack's acceleration is elite.  The reason he's able to make some of those passes is that he draws a lot of attention with the ball in his hands. He gets by the first defender and forces help and then somehow threads a needle to an open teammate for a layup or a trey.  

 

Burke and Mack are both really, really fast.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Norm Peterson

[jayschool]

49 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

Mack makes good passes. He also flies by people on the dribble. His acceleration and change of direction are something to behold. That was also something that was impressive about Burke when I watched him during the open scrimmage last year.  He had an extra gear and could blow by people to get to the rim.

 

Mack's acceleration is elite.  The reason he's able to make some of those passes is that he draws a lot of attention with the ball in his hands. He gets by the first defender and forces help and then somehow threads a needle to an open teammate for a layup or a trey.  

 

Burke and Mack are both really, really fast.

Mack's video: Hoops porn.

[AuroranHusker]

Can this Italy trip start any day, now?!?

 

 

[Norm Peterson]

54 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

Can this Italy trip start any day, now?!?

 

Yes, if by "any day" you mean August.

[jayschool]

BEST-CASE SCENARIO

1. Mack
2. Green
3. Burke
4. Roby
5. Johnson

Rotation regulars: Cheatham, Kavas, Harris

Rotation depth: Heiman, Davis, Thor, Arop, Piatkowski

Redshirt Transfer (1): Banton or Ntambwe

 

NO ROBY/NO JOHNSON

1. Mack
2. Green
3. Burke
4. Cheatham
5. Kavas

Rotation regulars: Harris, Thor, Heiman

Rotation depth: Arop, Davis, Piatkowski

Three open schollies for sit-out transfers and/or true freshmen

[AuroranHusker]

2 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Yes, if by "any day" you mean August.

 

Would be better if it were sooner than August 3-13. You know what I'm sayin' -- fired up for Nebrasketball under Hoiberg & Co.

[Dead Dog Alley]

5 hours ago, jayschool said:

BEST-CASE SCENARIO

1. Mack
2. Green
3. Burke
4. Roby
5. Johnson

Rotation regulars: Cheatham, Kavas, Harris

Rotation depth: Heiman, Davis, Thor, Arop, Piatkowski

Redshirt Transfer (1): Banton or Ntambwe

 

NO ROBY/NO JOHNSON

1. Mack
2. Green
3. Burke
4. Cheatham
5. Kavas

Rotation regulars: Harris, Thor, Heiman

Rotation depth: Arop, Davis, Piatkowski

Three open schollies for sit-out transfers and/or true freshmen

 

The best case scenario wins 25 games.

 

The other wins 15.

[jayschool]

1 hour ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

 

The best case scenario wins 25 games.

 

The other wins 15.

How many with Roby but no Johnson (bad jokes welcomed)?

How many with Johnson but no Roby (but don't go overboard)?

Edited May 1, 2019 by jayschool

[Dead Dog Alley]

20 minutes ago, jayschool said:

How many with Roby but no Johnson (bad jokes welcomed)?

 

 

[thrasher31]

I'm waiting to see what happens with these last 2-3 scholarships before I predict anything honestly. 

 

The two that won't change though are

PG: Cam Mack

G: Jervay Green

Other guard spot will be between Haanif Cheatham/dachon Burke. 

 

After that I think it's up in the air depending on who they bring in honestly. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by thrasher31

[Handy Johnson]

If we can get ahold of the BIG Johnson, we won’t miss Roby’s length as much... but that gap between 15-25 isn’t as hairy as you might think  

[khoock]

How about:

PG C. Mack --> A. Harris

SG J. Green --> H. Cheatham --> K. Davis

G D. Burke --> H. Cheatham --> T. Thorbjarnarson

F I. Roby --> M. Kavas

C J. Johnson --> B. Heiman

 

Snag Yvan Ouedraogo and RS him with Akol Arop.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Edited May 1, 2019 by khoock

[millerhusker]

Just now, khoock said:

How about:

PG C. Mack --> A. Harris

SG J. Green --> H. Cheatham --> K. Davis

G D. Burke --> H. Cheatham --> T. Thorbjarnarson

F I. Roby --> M. Kavas

C J. Johnson --> B. Heiman

 

Snag Yvan Ouedraogo and RS him with Akol Arop.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

That looks great on paper, but I don't think that first group would spread teams out like we'd want to. Mack and Burke need to (I think they will) improve their perimeter shooting. Roby has been inconsistent beyond the arc, although his mechanics are there. Just needs confidence. Johnson's defender would be waiting in the paint to protect the rim at all times.

 

A lineup of Mack, Jervay, Cheatham, Kavas and Roby would be a nightmare to defend. Would have great space and room to attack off the dribble. I know the narrative is that Roby needs to play his natural position to better utilize his talents, but I disagree. I felt Roby was at his best this year when Tanner was on the bench and the other team's big was forced to guard him. The big has to come out of the lane and defend on the perimeter, and Roby has the ability to blow by him off the dribble. He also used his quickness and ability to finish with either hand to score on guys like Happ, Teske and Fernando down low. On the other hand, when the opponents "4" defends Roby (players with the archetype of Miles Bridges, Juwan Morgan, Nigel Hayes, Bradzeikis) they are able to stay in front of him and often times force a turnover on the perimeter. And with a lower center of gravity, they push him off his spot in the post. At the college level, the way the game is played today, I believe Roby is most effective at the 5. It led to foul trouble this year, but Doc's pretty good at teaching great team defense with undersized posts. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by millerhusker

[jayschool]

33 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

That looks great on paper, but I don't think that first group would spread teams out like we'd want to. Mack and Burke need to (I think they will) improve their perimeter shooting. Roby has been inconsistent beyond the arc, although his mechanics are there. Just needs confidence. Johnson's defender would be waiting in the paint to protect the rim at all times.

 

A lineup of Mack, Jervay, Cheatham, Kavas and Roby would be a nightmare to defend. Would have great space and room to attack off the dribble.

 

Yep.

 

3-point shooting percentages

1. Mack — 34 percent as a freshman at SLCC
2. Green — 39 percent as a sophomore at WNCC
3. Burke — 34 percent as a sophomore at Robert Morris
4. Roby — 33 percent as a junior at Nebraska, 41 percent as a sophomore
5. Johnson — doesn't do the long ball
6. Cheatham — 37 percent as a junior at FGCU
7. Kavas — 46 percent as a junior at Seattle U.
8. Harris — doesn't do the long ball
9. Heiman — 0-1 from deep as a freshman
10. Thor — 21 percent career at Nebraska

[khoock]

I dont have minutes attached, but i also essentially have Roby as the backup center and playing a decent amount of minutes at the 5. I dont see Kavas holding up defensively in the Big Ten. He's someone who i could regularly see picking up two fouls in the first couple minutes of a game. So i like him coming off the bench. When he comes off the bench I see him taking Jayce Johnsons place as opposed to Roby.

 

Hoiberg will have Mack and Burke as serviceable shooters that defenses will atleast have to respect. With that being said, Cheatham or Burke was a tossup for me.

 

All this is speculation at this point.

[khoock]

2 hours ago, khoock said:

How about:

PG C. Mack --> A. Harris

SG J. Green --> H. Cheatham --> K. Davis

G D. Burke --> H. Cheatham --> T. Thorbjarnarson

F I. Roby --> M. Kavas

C J. Johnson --> B. Heiman

 

Snag Yvan Ouedraogo and RS him with Akol Arop.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Replace Yvan with Blanton

[hhcmatt]

26 minutes ago, khoock said:

I dont see Kavas holding up defensively in the Big Ten. He's someone who i could regularly see picking up two fouls in the first couple minutes of a game.

 

His numbers indicate he's not often going to foul guys that blow past him.

[millerhusker]

Just now, khoock said:

I dont have minutes attached, but i also essentially have Roby as the backup center and playing a decent amount of minutes at the 5. I dont see Kavas holding up defensively in the Big Ten. He's someone who i could regularly see picking up two fouls in the first couple minutes of a game. So i like him coming off the bench. When he comes off the bench I see him taking Jayce Johnsons place as opposed to Roby.

 

Hoiberg will have Mack and Burke as serviceable shooters that defenses will atleast have to respect. With that being said, Cheatham or Burke was a tossup for me.

 

All this is speculation at this point.

Agreed that Kavas might be a defensive liability. But this staff definitely prioritized offense over defense at Iowa State, as apposed to Miles who wouldn't play a guy if he couldn't defend his position, even if he was talented offensively (Jeriah Horne). We might have to get used to that (personally I prefer it).

 

You're right, all speculation. Heck, Roby might not even be back next year. In that case, I'd probably have Johnson starting with the four guards surrounding him and Kavas as the 6th man... All the different potential lineups we could run out there are fun to think about. 

[GATA]

It’s easy to say out of season, but I’m OK with a good offensive player and bad individual defender as long as he plays with effort and knows his responsibilities/rotations. 

 

We we just have to be careful how many of them are on the court at once. 

[Art Vandalay]

1 hour ago, jayschool said:

 

Yep.

 

3-point shooting percentages

1. Mack — 34 percent as a freshman at SLCC
2. Green — 39 percent as a sophomore at WNCC
3. Burke — 34 percent as a sophomore at Robert Morris
4. Roby — 33 percent as a junior at Nebraska, 41 percent as a sophomore
5. Johnson — doesn't do the long ball
6. Cheatham — 37 percent as a junior at FGCU
7. Kavas — 46 percent as a junior at Seattle U.
8. Harris — doesn't do the long ball
9. Heiman — 0-1 from deep as a freshman
10. Thor — 21 percent career at Nebraska

 

I think you will see a lot of guys improv their percentages. Just the fact Fred will encourage / demand they look for and take open threes will build confidence. Always seemed some guys hesitated under Miles, TA and Roby did it a lot

[GATA]

The starting lineup seems clear today since we have only 5 players who will be active next season. 

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, GATA said:

The starting lineup seems clear today since we have only 5 players who will be active next season. 

 

Not as much of a mystery as I had anticipated, then.

 

Wait.  Akol, Jervay, Cam, Cheatham, the Polish guy, and Dachon Burke.  That's six.  And then we have walk-ons.  And Karrington Davis.

[49r]

Now...more than ever.

 

 

On 4/27/2019 at 8:35 AM, Norm Peterson said:

Here's the thing about the 2019-2020 roster: Don't anyone on this board even TRY to tell us who you think is going to be starting and how many minutes each player is going to get.  About the only players I think are locks to start would be Mack at PG if he comes, and Roby if he stays.

 

Other than that, it's like Holy Moly, we've got transfers who did some really good things at the schools they left.  You could have a starting backcourt of Mack, Green, Burke. Or it could be Mack, Cheatham, Kavas. Or it could be Mack, Green, Burke, Cheatham, Kavas.

 

It's so wide open, I don't think any of us could possibly, credibly suggest what the starting lineup would look like, let alone estimate an allocation of minutes.

 

So, that annual thread? Don't even try this year.

 

 

@Norm Peterson nailed it, and it looks more that way this afternoon than it did this morning.