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trickey: Heisenberg's uncertainty principal might be more applicable here.

It's a good thing no butterflies flapped their wings in China during this time.

So what we are saying is timing is everything? What if T. O.'s mom and dad don't meet. Then we would have not had Tom, and we would have sucked in everything after The Bob retired.

I like our odds to progress

Let me put this another (better) way. If we get kicked out of the AAU a year earlier, we probably don't join the Big 10. If we don't join the Big 10, we probably don't get Tim Miles (who always wanted to coach in the Big 10). If Doc gets fired a year earlier or a year later, we don't get Tim Miles. If we don't get Tim Miles, we don't get Terran Petteway. If we don't get Terran Petteway, Bon Jovi would still suck but Mike Peltz would get more minutes this last year. If we don't get Terran Petteway, we don't do nearly as well this last year. And if we don't do nearly as well this last year, we don't land White, Watson and Morrow. Just to add a little to this, Norm: If T.O. doesn't lose the governor's race, he isn't available to take over on extremely short notice when Harvey finally figures out SP must go. If T.O. isn't available, the attention to basketball in the form of the Hendricks Center may not have happened. The Arena may not have happened without the Icon's support. The timing of Doc's termination may not have happened as it did. The decision to hire Miles may not have happened, and the ability of NU to hire Miles may not have happened without having a reputable AD. The decisions of the last 5 years with regard to basketball in our athletic department are looking pretty good. While we have had plenty of T.O. doubters on this board, I personally don't think the unfolding events have been luck or a coincidence. The circumstances and timing of T.O. taking over the athletic department after the dark times of the Pedey regime factor heavily into the current positives for our beloved program.

I feel like Mike Peltz should be mentioned somewhere in there. And Bon Jovi.

Word. I don't know. The skeptic in me could see it happening. 16 or 17 wins. The couch fist-er in me sees us winning 22 season games, tho. WE WILL WIN.

Hey come on...it was from FOX NEWS....they are fair and balanced!

http://www.highschoolcube.com/students/edward-morrow/highlights

(To break up this very long post, I've divided it into six parts.) Timing. It’s everything, right? Nebraska basketball had some success this past season – more success than we’ve seen in a dozen years or more – and everyone around here seemed to have this intuitive sense that we needed to parlay that on-court success this past spring into recruiting success this fall. To strike while the iron is hot, so to speak. Not to lose the opportunity of timing. The timing was good for us because just as we were ascending into a position of national relevance (carrying a pre-season ranking into the ’14-’15 season) a young kid from Chicago – a kid who just happened to have Nebraska ties – was ascending as well, into national recruiting prominence as a Rivals 4-star player. A few years back, though, when Nebraska’s hoops fortunes weren’t so promising, another kid came along with Nebraska basketball ties, another kid with 4 stars from Rivals, and he chose to take his talents to Texas instead of following in his father’s footsteps at Nebraska. So, timing clearly matters. Sometimes the stars have to align and the right events have to take place in the right sequence at the right moment for everything to fall in place the way you want it to, the way you hope for it to. And I submit that a lot of somethings have been falling into place in the right sequence at the right time for a number of years now, actually, to bring us to the point where we are today.

SMU 2014 says not so fast my friend.

Can you quantify regress? Teams have added and lost players, schedule is tougher, hard to say, I don't think so but if it were to happen it would t be a big slide.

Let me put this another (better) way. If we get kicked out of the AAU a year earlier, we probably don't join the Big 10. If we don't join the Big 10, we probably don't get Tim Miles (who always wanted to coach in the Big 10). If Doc gets fired a year earlier or a year later, we don't get Tim Miles. If we don't get Tim Miles, we don't get Terran Petteway. If we don't get Terran Petteway, Bon Jovi would still suck but Mike Peltz would get more minutes this last year. If we don't get Terran Petteway, we don't do nearly as well this last year. And if we don't do nearly as well this last year, we don't land White, Watson and Morrow. Just to add a little to this, Norm: If T.O. doesn't lose the governor's race, he isn't available to take over on extremely short notice when Harvey finally figures out SP must go. If T.O. isn't available, the attention to basketball in the form of the Hendricks Center may not have happened. The Arena may not have happened without the Icon's support. The timing of Doc's termination may not have happened as it did. The decision to hire Miles may not have happened, and the ability of NU to hire Miles may not have happened without having a reputable AD. The decisions of the last 5 years with regard to basketball in our athletic department are looking pretty good. While we have had plenty of T.O. doubters on this board, I personally don't think the unfolding events have been luck or a coincidence. The circumstances and timing of T.O. taking over the athletic department after the dark times of the Pedey regime factor heavily into the current positives for our beloved program. True what you say. But you gotta give me some props for getting Peltz and Bon Jovi in there.

Walter White would agree, jimmy.

Jacob Hammond will start at center for the team you list above. People underestimate how good Jacob will be. While he played lower level competition his senior year at Commache, OK, everyone forgets he led Sunrise Academy in scoring his Jr year. And I believe that was their number 1 team, and nationally ranked in the top 10.

I want another Walter(s) just so I can recycle all of my used avatars.

The leadership on this team is too good for us to regress in my opinion. Petteway and Shavon simply won't let it happen. We are in good hands. Our record may be slightly different, but I would bet a large sum of money that we are just as good if not better than last year. Teams that have success and can't build off it typically lack leadership which leads to lack of discipline and focus.

Pretty great rundown there Normy.... a small correction on your 6th post in this thread, it wasn't Chris Carter (all he does is catch TDs -- HA) as it was Josh Carter of A&M (damn him & his silky-smooth stroke from downtown!!).

When you google search him it pulls up some old discussions from Aussie basketball message boards. Seems like consensus on there is that he was super talented but had a bad attitude, lazy, and not willing to work on the deficiencies. He would be a great walk on if he was willing to do so. In fact, that would be quite the coup imo if we got him to walk on. I think he definitely has low D1 ability.

Must be a Creighton fan.

He's dead. Yeah, they just found out, like, 17 years ago. So, that one's off the table. For now. I don't recall BR tweeting that, so sorry, I don't believe you, Norm.

maybe because he's a foot taller

Timing. It has all come together at the right time. In the right sequence. At the right place. If Nebraska hadn’t done well this last season, we probably don’t land White, Watson or even Morrow. If we hadn't signed Terran Petteway, we don't do well this last season. If Tim Miles hadn’t given Terran Petteway a new opportunity, he's somewhere else. If Petteway hadn’t fallen into a rut at Texas Tech, he doesn't call Tim Miles. If we didn’t hire Tim Miles, we don’t have Terran Petteway. If we’d pulled the trigger on Doc a year earlier or a year later, we wouldn’t have Tim Miles. As painful as it was at the time, if Josh Carter misses that last-second three and, as a result, we make the dance in 2009, we wouldn’t have Tim Miles. If we hadn’t come on line with the facilities that we built and joined the Big Ten when we did, Tim Miles might have listened to someone else’s offer. And if the AAU had voted us out a year earlier, we might not have been invited to join the Big Ten Conference in the first place. And, ergo, we maybe don’t have Tim Miles for that reason alone. It’s all about timing. And, finally, our timing is working out.

August 2011. A moderately recruited wing from Galveston, Texas enrolls at Texas Tech after choosing the Red Raiders over the CSU Golden Rams. About that same time, an under-rated and under-the-radar wing from Olathe, Kansas commits to play basketball for Nebraska. October 14, 2011. The Hendricks Training Complex, one of the finest dedicated practice facilities in all of basketball, college or pro, opens. But, because of stagnating results on the floor, the Huskers are unable to effectively leverage their shiny new toy as a recruiting tool. Timing. We weren’t good when we needed to be. March 9, 2012. After an initial three seasons of optimism followed by three seasons of ever-increasing dissatisfaction, Nebraska AD Tom Osborne reluctantly lets Doc Sadler go. That same year … March 2012. Colorado State dances under Tim Miles. His star is rising, but not too fast. The former coach at Mayville State has no hoops pedigree. The big boys haven’t really noticed what he’s done at the various places he’s been. But Tom Osborne has noticed, and gives Tim Miles an interview. If the Nebraska job comes open a year earlier, Tim Miles is not on Nebraska’s radar; if the Nebraska job comes open a year later, we’re not on his. Timing. March 23, 2012. Nebraska hires Tim Miles as its next men’s basketball coach. At the time, Miles says he’s always wanted to coach in the Big Ten Conference.

Let’s go back to … March 2000. Nebraska fires Danny Nee and replaces him with Barry Collier, whose Butler team has reached the NCAA Tourney 3 out of the last 4 years. A year later … 2001. North Dakota State, in order to replace departing head coach Greg McDermott, hires a young unknown who, in four years, had built Southwest Minnesota State into a Division II power. Contemplating a move to NCAA Division I, the hire pays off for the Bison as Coach Miles builds a program at NDSU that will reach the NCAA tourney with the players he recruited 2 years after he leaves. July-August 2006. Barry Collier quits at Nebraska to return to Butler as AD. Nebraska hires Doc Sadler from UTEP whose teams reached post-season play in both of his seasons at the UTEP helm. A year later … 2007. A moribund Colorado State basketball program hires a relatively unknown coach from North Dakota State to turn their program around. In 5 years, they go from the dormat to The Dance. I point these out just to show how our openings hadn’t aligned, so far, with Tim Miles’ career moves. Not that we would have hired him in 2000, but his availability has to correspond with our opening, right?

Vinny I will be standing right next to you.