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Watching so many impact players from Nebraska playing for other teams is disappointing, John Tonje had 32 today in Wisconsin’s win over MSU, Hunter Sallis for  for Wake Forest and Chucky Hepburn for Louisville, these players are all transfers, which means Fred has missed on these players more than once.
I like Fred as a coach and person but he is being paid a top 30 salary and needs to be better in recruiting and the university needs to give him more NIL.


 

Navin R. Johnson

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Fred was a little late to the party as Sallis and Hepburn had been contacted by coaches before Fred came to NU and there was not a lot of talent that the top kids would want to play with on the team at that time.  Most of the other guys like Tonje, Fidler and Wrightsell were late bloomers.  Creighton missed on them too and Mac has a good eye for spotting kids with potential.  From what I hear Coach Miles built up pretty good relations with Chucky.  Now transfer wise, you can say we might have missed but who knows how that ever plays out.

LincecumFan

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  20 hours ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

Fred was a little late to the party as Sallis and Hepburn had been contacted by coaches before Fred came to NU and there was not a lot of talent that the top kids would want to play with on the team at that time.  Most of the other guys like Tonje, Fidler and Wrightsell were late bloomers.  Creighton missed on them too and Mac has a good eye for spotting kids with potential.  From what I hear Coach Miles built up pretty good relations with Chucky.  Now transfer wise, you can say we might have missed but who knows how that ever plays out.

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I don't know what Tonje's high school career was like, but at Colorado State he was mainly a role player. I don't think he was ever more than their 6th guy off the bench. Then last year at Missouri I believe he was injured a good portion of the season. I had no idea he would become one of the best players in the Big Ten this year.

OmahaHusker

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  21 hours ago, Huskers/Cubs said:

Watching so many impact players from Nebraska playing for other teams is disappointing, John Tonje had 32 today in Wisconsin’s win over MSU, Hunter Sallis for  for Wake Forest and Chucky Hepburn for Louisville, these players are all transfers, which means Fred has missed on these players more than once.
I like Fred as a coach and person but he is being paid a top 30 salary and needs to be better in recruiting and the university needs to give him more NIL.


 

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Saw a post on another board that talked about how basketball won’t get more NIL allocation from the university until the football program is back where fans expect it to be. I tend to agree. The asking prices for all of those guys in the portal was way too high for us to compete with. 

LincecumFan

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  20 hours ago, OmahaHusker said:


Saw a post on another board that talked about how basketball won’t get more NIL allocation from the university until the football program is back where fans expect it to be. I tend to agree. The asking prices for all of those guys in the portal was way too high for us to compete with. 

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The sentiment expressed in your first sentence is exactly what makes me want to throw a brick through my TV. 🤬 And to be clear I'm not upset with you, it's having to live in a football first state.

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Huskerpapa

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  21 hours ago, Huskers/Cubs said:

Watching so many impact players from Nebraska playing for other teams is disappointing, John Tonje had 32 today in Wisconsin’s win over MSU, Hunter Sallis for  for Wake Forest and Chucky Hepburn for Louisville, these players are all transfers, which means Fred has missed on these players more than once.
I like Fred as a coach and person but he is being paid a top 30 salary and needs to be better in recruiting and the university needs to give him more NIL.


 

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We are having a hell of a time in Omaha.  We are not only missing, shoot, we cannot even get our foot in most doors.

I was encouraged when I saw Bruce Chubick sitting with Coach Loenser the other day.  One issue involved a Chubick Sr. player.  We lost our foothold sometime during the Doc era, and totally slid off the mountain while Tim was in charge.  

It appears that Fred is starting to re-engage with Omaha coaches.  If that happens, we may have a better opportunity on players like Robinson, the freshman starter for Westside.

I guess time will tell (but that is one reason I was hoping for a strong push for Bahl).

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  20 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

We are having a hell of a time in Omaha.  We are not only missing, shoot, we cannot even get our foot in most doors.

I was encouraged when I saw Bruce Chubick sitting with Coach Loenser the other day.  One issue involved a Chubick Sr. player.  We lost our foothold sometime during the Doc era, and totally slid of the mountain while Tim was in charge.  

It appears that Fred is starting to re-engage with Omaha coaches.  If that happens, we may have a better opportunity on players like Robinson, the freshman starter for Westside.

I guess time will tell (but that is one reason I was hoping for a strong push for Bahl.

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You would think we could land a guy or two who does not want to play for Mac D.

hhcmatt

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  20 hours ago, LincecumFan said:

The sentiment expressed in your first sentence is exactly what makes me want to throw a brick through my TV. 🤬 And to be clear I'm not upset with you, it's having to live in a football first state.

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 Reads to me like we will be going with the Northwestern model of employing our coach for a while

HuskerFever

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  20 hours ago, LincecumFan said:

The sentiment expressed in your first sentence is exactly what makes me want to throw a brick through my TV. 🤬 And to be clear I'm not upset with you, it's having to live in a football first state.

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This might be revisionist history, but probably 15 years ago, the SEC got smart and saw the direction sports were going and saw the opportunity in college basketball. Outside of Kentucky and a couple teams here and there, they were terrible.

 

But then they got serious and paid for high quality coaches, built their stadiums, and have started to consistently put together strong teams. This season is one single data point, but the SEC has a sizeable lead in conference strength this season.

 

I only say this, because the "football first" mentality can work. But it can also leave us behind and be mediocre in both.

The Polish Rifle

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  13 hours ago, hskr4life said:


If our total NIL was 2-2.5 (I believe that was mentioned on here), you gotta think it was probably 1.25-1.5.

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I’d like to see that situation go differently this offseason. I’d rather Fred spend on a proven all conf player than spending a lot of money on multiple fliers (word is Berke and Meah are a combined $1M, Griffiths probably cost a little too for zero impact). Also not all on Fred, if we are at the table with some big boys and need to up our offer, we need to bump our NIL pool to make it happen. Adding Chucky (or someone similar) to this years roster would have been worth an extra mil. 

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  12 hours ago, The Polish Rifle said:

I’d like to see that situation go differently this offseason. I’d rather Fred spend on a proven all conf player than spending a lot of money on multiple fliers (word is Berke and Meah are a combined $1M, Griffiths probably cost a little too for zero impact). Also not all on Fred, if we are at the table with some big boys and need to up our offer, we need to bump our NIL pool to make it happen. Adding Chucky (or someone similar) to this years roster would have been worth an extra mil. 

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Got bad news for you.   Meah and Berke were more than a combined $1M.  

HuskerFever

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  4 hours ago, Fastbreaker said:

Where can I find a official accurate list of Nil payments versus all the numbers I see thrown around the message boards. Makes me thinks you don't know what you talking about  

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This is the byproduct of having no regulations and living in the wild wild west. There's also different laws by state which make it difficult and there's no requirement for transparency. In fact, many schools don't disclose anything under the guise of student privacy, state law, or simply not sharing figures to try to maintain stronger negotiating power.

 

Unless a regulation comes in by the state or federal government or by the student athlete governing bodies, there will never be a clear list of NIL for each player.

Huskerpapa

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I guess schools could do something similar to Davidson.  Hire a superstar sugar-daddy as an assistant GM, pair him with another sugar-daddy and then hope the good times will roll...

 

https://www.davidson.edu/news/2025/03/10/curry-berman-start-funding-davidson-college-basketball

 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44191234/stephen-curry-accepts-assistant-gm-role-davidson-hoops

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