KenPom 2023-2024 KenPom Rankings Thread

[49r]

Up now to #33

 

31	Colorado	P12	21-9	+17.73	118.3	25	100.6	64	68.5	140	+.014	153	+7.23	80	110.4	79	103.2	75	-1.66	245
32	St. John's	BE	19-12	+17.63	116.8	28	99.2	41	69.4	83	-.059	310	+9.73	38	112.3	27	102.6	60	+1.01	158
33	Nebraska	B10	21-9	+17.24	115.2	44	97.9	26	68.5	138	+.023	123	+8.31	69	110.6	72	102.3	50	-5.59	325
34	New Mexico	MWC	22-8	+17.11	115.6	38	98.5	36	73.5	5	-.018	230	+5.42	89	109.5	92	104.1	89	-0.23	204
35	Colorado St.	MWC	22-9	+16.96	115.7	37	98.7	37	66.2	270	-.038	279	+8.63	66	112.3	25	103.7	83	+5.54	54
36	Florida Atlantic	Amer	24-7	+16.94	119.7	16	102.8	105	68.1	163	-.000	185	+5.19	91	109.8	86	104.6	100	+6.55	41
37	Boise St.	MWC	22-9	+16.89	114.9	47	98.0	29	67.1	227	+.022	128	+8.76	59	111.0	60	102.3	49	+7.68	25
38	Nevada	MWC	25-6	+16.87	115.1	45	98.2	32	66.9	237	+.071	37	+4.91	94	109.8	87	104.9	106	-1.49	240
39	Mississippi St.	SEC	19-12	+16.75	114.2	56	97.5	25	67.6	191	-.044	290	+10.13	29	112.5	18	102.4	56	+0.83	165
40	Indiana St.	MVC	28-5	+16.48	118.7	22	102.2	90	70.8	41	+.048	73	+1.26	128	107.1	143	105.9	140	-4.16	301

[Norm Peterson]

12 hours ago, 49r said:

Up now to #33

 

 

#33 in Kenpom, and #40 in NET.

 

They credit us for a 4-7 record in Quad 1 games. Wisconsin and Michigan St teetered on the edge of dropping out of Quad 1 status for us, but have remained there and it appears they'll be there for good now. We're 3-2 in Quad 2 and zero losses in Quad 3 and Quad 4. And basically no remaining chance of picking up a Quad 3 or 4 loss.

 

KSU did us a major solid by vaulting way back into the top 75 with a huge win over Iowa State.

 

Now we just need to pick up a road win at Michigan to lock in the #3 seed in the BTT.

[Nebrasketball1979]

Up to #32 in KenPom and just .02 behind St. John's 

[Norm Peterson]

15-point road win @ Michigan and we move up one whole spot in Kenpom.

 

Man, whadya gotta do?

 

Can we please move up more than one spot in NET?

[big red22]

Just now, Norm Peterson said:

15-point road win @ Michigan and we move up one whole spot in Kenpom.

 

Man, whadya gotta do?

 

Can we please move up more than one spot in NET?

Change our name to Michigan State

[Norm Peterson]

So if 22 wins and 4th place in league gets us an NIT 5th seed, we're at least looking good for an opening round NIT home game, right?

[big red22]

4 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

So if 22 wins and 4th place in league gets us an NIT 5th seed, we're at least looking good for an opening round NIT home game, right?

A lot of people forget we beat Michigan that year by 20 points and they went on to be the runner up in the Tournament.  Yet supposedly Big 10 sucked that year... no other way to explain why Nebraska could get to Number 4. <- Sarcasm

 

This year they tried and tried to get Nebraska to lose one they shouldn't down the stretch to bump us again.  Nebraska has basically said sorry F*** faces, but we aren't going to give you a chance to screw us this year.  Michigan being preseason #4 is what putting the foot in all the Big 10 down talk.

 

At the end of the day... we still need to win one in the Tournament

Edited March 10 by big red22

[cozrulz]

3 minutes ago, big red22 said:

A lot of people forget we beat Michigan that year by 20 points and they went on to be the runner up in the Tournament.  Yet supposedly Big 10 sucked that year... no other way to explain why Nebraska could get to Number 4. <- Sarcasm

 

This year they tried and tried to get Nebraska to lose one they shouldn't down the stretch to bump us again.  Nebraska has basically said sorry F*** faces, but we aren't going to give you a chance to screw us this year.  Michigan being preseason #4 is what putting the foot in all the Big 10 down talk.

 

At the end of the day... we still need to win one in the Tournament

 

Michigan State with another resume building loss...   Wisconsin with another resume building loss...

 

This Nebraska team should be a 6 seed right now at the least.

[hskr4life]

6 minutes ago, big red22 said:

 

 

At the end of the day... we still need to win one in the Tournament

If you’re talking this year— while it’d be nice, no we don’t need to win one in Minny.  We would be moving more toward 7 seed range if we do though.

[HuskerFever]

5 minutes ago, cozrulz said:

Michigan State with another resume building loss...   Wisconsin with another resume building loss...

 

This Nebraska team should be a 6 seed right now at the least.

 

Nebraska is more likely to be seeded worse than those two teams than they are a 6 seed, unfortunately. It's just the way this committee works.

[Norm Peterson]

30 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

If you’re talking this year— while it’d be nice, no we don’t need to win one in Minny.  We would be moving more toward 7 seed range if we do though.

 

I think he was talking about a different tournament.

[AuroranHusker]

7 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

I think he was talking about a different tournament.

 

 

We all want to win a bunch of tourney games, the bigger the stage, the more urgency it seems.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Now up to #37 in NET. That's a really good sign. 4-6 in Quad 1 games; 4-3 in Quad 2. Undefeated in Quads 3 and 4.

 

Michigan State still in the top 25 but barely hanging on at 25th. Cheer for them to win one in the BTT.

 

Michigan drops 5 spots due to the loss to us but manages to remain a Quad 2 at #132.

Edited March 11 by Norm Peterson

[49r]

We were briefly up to #31 yesterday, and as it stands we are just 0.01 behind St John's at #32.  We finished the regular season having never lost more than two games in a row, and now it would be impossible to have a three game losing streak, which is pretty cool.  Torvik likes us a bit more than Ken, we're at #24 in his ranking.

 

Wisconsin and Michigan State both move up a spot after quality losses on the road.

 

 

Here we go.

 

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KenPom rankings as of 3-11-24

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B1G (12-8):
3. Purdue - W
10. Illinois - L
19. Michigan State - W
21. Wisconsin - L, W
32. Nebraska

42. Northwestern - W, L

49. Ohio State - W, L
52. Iowa - L
58. Maryland - L
75. Minnesota - L, W

77. Penn State - W

86. Indiana - W, W

98. Rutgers - L, W

127. Michigan - W, W

 

Non-Conference (10-1):
356. Lindenwood - W

342. Florida A&M - W

---Cornhusker Classic---
222. Rider - W
176. Stony Brook - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
156. Oregon State - W

 

---Cornhusker Classic---

101. Duquesne - W

 

230. Cal State Fullerton - W

9. Creighton - L
67. @Kansas State - W
231. North Dakota - W

293. South Carolina State - W

[49r]

ThE BIg TeN is dOwn ThiS yEar...  

 

 

 

Ranking of conferences by AdjEM of team that's expected to go .500 in conference play

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Big 12 Conference	+17.40	18	Big South Conference	-3.69
2	Big East Conference	+15.29	19	Coastal Athletic Association	-4.03
3	Big Ten Conference	+14.82	20	Horizon League	-4.49
4	Southeastern Conference	+14.33	21	America East Conference	-4.97
5	Atlantic Coast Conference	+11.97	22	Big Sky Conference	-5.31
6	Pac 12 Conference	+10.87	23	Summit League	-5.61
7	Mountain West Conference	+10.53	24	Mid American Conference	-6.41
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+5.07	25	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-6.43
9	American Athletic Conference	+3.85	26	ASUN Conference	-6.73
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+3.41	27	Southland Conference	-10.84
11	West Coast Conference	+0.56	28	Ohio Valley Conference	-10.97
12	Southern Conference	-0.45	29	Independents	-11.18
13	Ivy League	-0.72	30	Patriot League	-12.31
14	Western Athletic Conference	-1.16	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-12.63
15	Conference USA	-1.72	32	Northeast Conference	-13.56
16	Big West Conference	-2.50	33	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-13.69
17	Sun Belt Conference	-2.69

 

[Nebrasketball1979]

36 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

Now up to #37 in NET. That's a really good sign. 4-6 in Quad 1 games; 4-3 in Quad 2. Undefeated in Quads 3 and 4.

 

Michigan State still in the top 25 but barely hanging on at 25th. Cheer for them to win one in the BTT.

 

Michigan drops 5 spots due to the loss to us but manages to remain a Quad 2 at #132.

FYI that as long as Mich St. remains in the top 30 of the NET then it will remain a Q1 home win.  They would really have to get blown out in their first game to potentially drop that much.  Wisconsin, Mich. St. and K. St all appear to be relatively safe in Q1.  Our first game in the Big 10 tournament will be Q2 if it's against Indiana or Penn St. and a Q3 if it's against Michigan (seems unlikely!).

[Raidsker]

19 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

15-point road win @ Michigan and we move up one whole spot in Kenpom.

 

Man, whadya gotta do?

 

Can we please move up more than one spot in NET?

 

Not get blown out when you do lose... it is hard to come back from that... the math doesn't forget.

 

Nebraska - Losses: 9 by 125 pts total with 6 by double digits

 

Wisconsin - Losses: 12 by 114 pts total with 4 by double digits

 

Mich St ‐ Losses: 13 by 90 pts total with 3 by double digits

 

[hskr4life]

20 minutes ago, Raidsker said:

 

Not get blown out when you do lose... it is hard to come back from that... the math doesn't forget.

 

Nebraska - Losses: 9 by 125 pts total with 6 by double digits

 

Wisconsin - Losses: 12 by 114 pts total with 4 by double digits

 

Mich St ‐ Losses: 13 by 90 pts total with 3 by double digits

 

Also— our recent stretch of wins by 10-20 including our two road wins have been huge in just getting us where we are.  If we had squeaked those out, we’d be even lower than where we sit now.

[Norm Peterson]

50 minutes ago, Raidsker said:

 

Not get blown out when you do lose... it is hard to come back from that... the math doesn't forget.

 

Nebraska - Losses: 9 by 125 pts total with 6 by double digits

 

Wisconsin - Losses: 12 by 114 pts total with 4 by double digits

 

Mich St ‐ Losses: 13 by 90 pts total with 3 by double digits

 

 

And since we finished with a better overall record in league standings, I'm beginning to think margin of victory/loss is maybe an over-rated criterion for determining which is the better team.

 

I mean, for example, Nebraska football under Frost losing 9 games by a combined total of 56 points was still just a 3-win team at the end of the season.

 

At some point, you have to account for the fact that some teams are able to do what needs to be done to get more dubs. Great that Michigan St had half as many blowout losses. But they also had fewer wins and, at the end of the day, that seems like a more important metric.

[cornfed24-7]

26 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

was still just a 3-win team at the end of the season.

Whoa whoa whoa...Do not short change the best 3 win college football team college football has ever seen! 

[Huskerpapa]

At least someone has us in the top 25

 

https://share.newsbreak.com/6dc7wqwp

[Raidsker]

4 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

And since we finished with a better overall record in league standings, I'm beginning to think margin of victory/loss is maybe an over-rated criterion for determining which is the better team.

 

I mean, for example, Nebraska football under Frost losing 9 games by a combined total of 56 points was still just a 3-win team at the end of the season.

 

At some point, you have to account for the fact that some teams are able to do what needs to be done to get more dubs. Great that Michigan St had half as many blowout losses. But they also had fewer wins and, at the end of the day, that seems like a more important metric.

 

With unbalanced schedules across the entire season how would you account for strength of schedule then?

[HuskerFever]

Yeah, I don't have a solution but I'm all for "rewarding" teams who schedule tougher games. Or maybe phrased a bit differently, penalizing those teams less for a loss to much stronger opponents. Otherwise you're just incentivizing teams to play against 300+ level opponents.

[hhcmatt]

up to 30

[SkersHoops]

With Maryland moving to the top 75, we now have (checks notes....) 2 losses outside of Quad 1!! That's crazy. (One in OT, one we were up 15)