KenPom 2023-2024 KenPom Rankings Thread

[cornfed24-7]

4 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Definitely before. But I'll leave it up to others on the board to comment to make sure I'm not falling in revisionist history. Was certainly vivid to be though.

You're not and they did. Every chance they could as a matter of fact. Them and the d-bag Lunardi. 

[royalfan]

3 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Nobody thought we were in that year. I remember having zero interest on selection Sunday because it was known that we didn’t have a legit shot. It’s very different this year. 

I got hopes up when our odds of making it steamed a good bit at a sportsbook the day of, so was hopeful someone knew something.  Instead we went on the road in NIT:)

[millerhusker]

10 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Bracketmatrix was around back then and we were a consensus out

Syracuse and Arizona St were the surprise picks while USC and St Marys were the surprise snubs

 

http://bracketmatrix.com/matrix_2018.html

Beating Kansas could’ve been our ticket. I remember conversations in December after that loss about what a huge missed opportunity that could end up being. That’s the reason why I said before the Purdue game this year that we HAVE to win this game. Without that win we wouldn’t have a very strong argument right now. 

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

Beating Kansas could’ve been our ticket. I remember conversations in December after that loss about what a huge missed opportunity that could end up being. That’s the reason why I said before the Purdue game this year that we HAVE to win this game. Without that win we wouldn’t have a very strong argument right now. 

Of course it’s not just the Purdue win that makes us strong contenders for a spot in the dance. It is that we have zero bad losses. None. And the only risk of a quad three loss remaining on our schedule is Rutgers at home where we will be out for blood.

 

I mean how many years in the past did we look back at something like an Incarnate Word loss, and think to ourselves “if only…”

[AuroranHusker]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

Of course it’s not just the Purdue win that makes us strong contenders for a spot in the dance. It is that we have zero bad losses. None. And the only risk of a quad three loss remaining on our schedule is Rutgers at home where we will be out for blood.

 

I mean how many years in the past did we look back at something like an Incarnate Word loss, and think to ourselves “if only…”

 

Solid point. A lot of business left to attend to. But, the prognosis of dancin' in March Madness seems to be right there for the taking. No idea of "guessing" needed in 2023-24 like there was in 2017-18. Win a bunch and you're in, solidly.

 

Edited February 24 by AuroranHusker

[Cookie Miller Wasn't Dirty]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

Of course it’s not just the Purdue win that makes us strong contenders for a spot in the dance. It is that we have zero bad losses. None. And the only risk of a quad three loss remaining on our schedule is Rutgers at home where we will be out for blood.

 

I mean how many years in the past did we look back at something like an Incarnate Word loss, and think to ourselves “if only…”

Also something to note for Rutgers. If they do beat us in Lincoln they’ll get a big NET boost. They’re down to 92 now after getting smoked by Purdue, but it’s still possible for them to finish in the top 75 if they beat us. In which case it would not be a Q3 loss.

[Cookie Miller Wasn't Dirty]

3 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Beating Kansas could’ve been our ticket. I remember conversations in December after that loss about what a huge missed opportunity that could end up being. That’s the reason why I said before the Purdue game this year that we HAVE to win this game. Without that win we wouldn’t have a very strong argument right now. 

Would’ve been interesting. Looking back I realized we actually did win two Q2 games to go along with our Q1 win vs Michigan. By my count I think we were 1-6 in Q1 and 2-3 in Q2, and we had a Q3 loss at Illinois. If we beat Kansas that flips the Q1 record to 2-5.

 

I’m not totally convinced a win vs KU would’ve put us in, but definitely possible. Going 4-8 in the top two quads isn’t good, and our only great wins would’ve been at home, but also hard to leave out a 23 win major conference team.

[Norm Peterson]

Kansas State's win over BYU has bumped them up into a Quad 1 win for us. Now at #73.

[SkersHoops]

That 4 in Q1 does look nice....

[Norm Peterson]

I'm glad there's an asterisk by the Rutgers loss. Yeah, it means OT, but still. It deserves an asterisk for more reasons than that.

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, SkersHoops said:

That 4 in Q1 does look nice....

 

After we beat Ohio State, it'll be 5.

[hskr4life]

More impressive than that 4 in Q1 might be the only 1 L outside of Q1.

[HuskerFever]

And just to think, we thought that @Minnesota game was going to be a bad loss. Still hurts to not have a "W" there. But we have another chance tonight.

[Norm Peterson]

Up to #34. A Hoiberg Husker high.

[millerhusker]

Up to #29 in Torvik's rankings. Interested to see what our strength of record is tomorrow. Should be in the 20s. 

[REDZONEDAN]

Updated NET Ranking

[Norm Peterson]

2 minutes ago, REDZONEDAN said:

Updated NET Ranking

 

The ironic bad news is that our win against Minnesota today dropped them out of the top 75 so that our loss to them in December is now a Quad 2 loss. Those bitches.

[Nebrasketball1979]

3 minutes ago, REDZONEDAN said:

Updated NET Ranking

We dominated Minnesota to the point we dropped them back to a Q2 loss and Q3 win.  Hopefully, Minny can do their part over the next few games to move back up the standings a few spots 

[doc1394]

Baffling to me that Michigan State is still so high everywhere. That is not a good team.

[big red22]

11 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

Baffling to me that Michigan State is still so high everywhere. That is not a good team.

IMO

 

Michigan State should be the bubble team and Nebraska and Northwestern should both be safely in.  It is baffling stuff to see, and they always say it is their Out of Conference SoS.  Ok, but they didn't win them so who gives a shit? Right?

[MitchMcGaryMunchies]

26 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

Baffling to me that Michigan State is still so high everywhere. That is not a good team.

 

Seems baffling to me that about every Big East team outside of DePaul and Georgetown has a shot at making the tournament.  DePaul isn't even in the top 300 and Georgetown wouldn't be top 200 without their two wins against DePaul.

 

Must be nice to have those four guaranteed conference wins and then be on the bubble with just a few more.

[Cookie Miller Wasn't Dirty]

NET refreshed tonight rather than tomorrow morning. Some interesting movements that are relevant to us. And I know we’re fairly safe above the bubble right now, but this still matters for seeding!

 

We go from 43 to 41. Odd that our jump was lower than KenPom. I figured being lower in NET would provide opportunity for a bigger jump.

 

The best and perhaps most surprising news is Michigan State drops only one spot to 24, staying safely in Q1. Bizarre. I truly don’t like NET. They lose and lose and lose and hardly ever drop. But good for us.

On the other side of the coin, Ohio State moves up only one to 66. For a road Q1A win. I just don’t get it. Especially considering Maryland moved up five for winning at Rutgers, thanks to the margin. But my takeaway is Ohio State is unlikely to move below 75, so our home win should stay Q2 and road game (hopefully win) should stay Q1.

 

Minnesota on the other hand moved down four to 78, meaning our loss to them drops to Q2 and our win over them drops to Q3. It was a Q2 win for a full two hours! Perhaps the only downside to beating them by 18. We should root for them to move back in.

 

Kansas State remains at 73, meaning our win is hanging by a thread to Q1 status.

 

Michigan moves up two to 120. We want them to stay top 135 so our road game will be Q2. Good news is if we lose, it’ll surely stay Q2, which means it won’t be a bad loss on paper.

[millerhusker]

SOR is now #27, which would put us as a 7 seed. 

Michigan State is #46 and SOR seeding has them as the first team out. 

Seems more accurate than what the bracketologists have. 

Edited February 26 by millerhusker

[Cazzie22]

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

SOR is now #27, which would put us as a 7 seed. 

Michigan State is #46 and SOR seeding has them as the first team out. 

Seems more accurate than what the bracketologists have. 

Unless Michigan St goes winless the rest of the year the committee will find a way to include them.  CBS has always been in love with Izzo.

[49r]

Maryland jumps ahead of Iowa and Penn State leapfrogs Rutgers.  Which will happen when Maryland blows out Rutgers in their home arena.

 

Ken's prediction stays at 22-9 (12-8).  Torvik does as well.  KP's odds of winning the last three games are:

• Ohio State - 49%
• Rutgers - 80%
• Michigan - 65%

 

San José State's season has gone off the rails, I think I'm going to stop providing an update for them now.  I'm sure a lot of you will appreciate that!  

 

Here we go.

 

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KenPom rankings as of 2-26-24

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B1G (10-7):
2. Purdue - W
10. Illinois - L
20. Michigan State - W
22. Wisconsin - L, W
34. Nebraska

43. Northwestern - W, L

44. Maryland - L
49. Iowa - L
62. Ohio State - W
67. Minnesota - L, W

91. Penn State - W

94. Rutgers - L

105. Indiana - W, W

109. Michigan - W

 

Non-Conference (10-1):
358. Lindenwood - W

346. Florida A&M - W

---Cornhusker Classic---
245. Rider - W
208. Stony Brook - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
154. Oregon State - W

 

---Cornhusker Classic---

115. Duquesne - W

 

247. Cal State Fullerton - W

12. Creighton - L
69. @Kansas State - W
240. North Dakota - W

295. South Carolina State - W