KenPom 2022-2023 KenPom Rankings Thread

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16 hours ago, jayschool said:

I say we shouldn't leave anything up to chance next year. Go 20-0 in the Big Ten and guarantee a home game in the first round of the NIT!

 

which will conveniently be scheduled the day the court's getting mopped and we get moved to a first round away game in.....Fairbanks, AK.

[brfrad]

5 hours ago, The Polish Rifle said:

All the NIT bracketology I’ve seen is heavily weighing Ken Pom and NET. They got burned last year due to the NIT committee focusing on those metrics. For example a lot of them had Washington St out last year, Washington St ended up not only making the field but hosting a game because they were a NET/Ken Pom darling. They were outside the top 100 on all result based metrics. 

I feel part of it is the time restraint given the NIT.  They have to wait until 5 pm to learn the NCAA bracket, and basically have 2 hours to get their tournament seeded and brackets formed.  If they had the same time the NCAA committee receives, it probably wouldn't be as NET centric.

 

To combat that they need a list of teams they have studied and beyond the NET.  Then, if a team ends up making the NCAA tournament, they cross them off and go with the next team on their list.  Or, go with a team that they expected to make the NCAA tournament that doesn't.  

[hskr4life]

Big double whammy for us tonight as UNC is playing @ FSU.  Currently FSU is down 12

[royalfan]

9 hours ago, brfrad said:

I feel part of it is the time restraint given the NIT.  They have to wait until 5 pm to learn the NCAA bracket, and basically have 2 hours to get their tournament seeded and brackets formed.  If they had the same time the NCAA committee receives, it probably wouldn't be as NET centric.

 

To combat that they need a list of teams they have studied and beyond the NET.  Then, if a team ends up making the NCAA tournament, they cross them off and go with the next team on their list.  Or, go with a team that they expected to make the NCAA tournament that doesn't.  

That is no excuse.  If I was in charge if it I would be prepared enough to put it together correctly in ten or 15 minutes.  The only mystery is who gets taken from you by the NCAA.  With people like Collier on it, it is easier to envision why it is a disaster.  

[Nebrasketball1979]

Only a 2 spot drop in Ken Pom and MSU jumped to 25 so our atrocious 2nd half likely turned this into another Q1 loss 

[hskr4life]

3 minutes ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

Only a 2 spot drop in Ken Pom and MSU jumped to 25 so our atrocious 2nd half likely turned this into another Q1 loss 

Few spots ahead of SJSU still?  Basically where we were a month ago 

[Nebrasketball1979]

7 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Few spots ahead of SJSU still?  Basically where we were a month ago 

Ha, yep.  We are 95, they are 98

[royalfan]

This thread never is good when San Jose St re enters the conversation 

[hskr4life]

Had a little time this morning, so thought I would do a NET update.

 

Net: 93 (+1 from yesterday)

Q1: 3-10, Q2: 4-5, Q3: 2-0, Q4: 6-0... 23/31 of our regular season games will have either been Q1 or Q2 opponents.

 

Our Company 91-96

UNLV, Louisiana, Us, UC Irvine, Indiana State, San Jose State

 

Notables: 

#59- Ohio State

#75- Wisconsin

Games Left: Iowa (Q1) and B1G Tournament (Q1- Purdue, Maryland, Indiana, MSU, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois, NW...... Q2- Michigan, PSU, OSU, Wisco ....... Q4- Minny)

 

Teams with MORE Q1 Wins than us: 41

Teams with MORE Q1 games than us in Top 100: 13... but outside of Florida 12/13 teams are from the B1G or Big 12.

Edited March 2, 2023 by hskr4life

[FredsSlacks]

so we are probably in the 80s now? wisconsin is listed as the last 4 in with 16 wins at 75...

 

i would imagine 2 more wins puts us right in the mix, and 3 more wins probably gives us a really good shot at making the tourney.

[HuskerActuary]

17 minutes ago, FredsSlacks said:

so we are probably in the 80s now? wisconsin is listed as the last 4 in with 16 wins at 75...

 

i would imagine 2 more wins puts us right in the mix, and 3 more wins probably gives us a really good shot at making the tourney.

One of the wins would be against Minnesota, so two more wins does not put us in the mix. Need three to be in the discussion. 

[OmahaHusker]

19 minutes ago, FredsSlacks said:

so we are probably in the 80s now? wisconsin is listed as the last 4 in with 16 wins at 75...

 

i would imagine 2 more wins puts us right in the mix, and 3 more wins probably gives us a really good shot at making the tourney.

Gotta with the BTT 

[Norm Peterson]

42 minutes ago, HuskerActuary said:

One of the wins would be against Minnesota, so two more wins does not put us in the mix. Need three to be in the discussion. 

 

Unless you play in the Mountain West Conference, or the Sunbelt, in which case winning against lower division teams actually counts as winning rather than losing by by crappy opponent factor.

[hskr4life]

52 minutes ago, OmahaHusker said:

Gotta with the BTT 

Nahh— Make it to Saturday and you’re in the discussion.  Make it to Sunday and you’re in regardless of situation.

 

Two won’t do anything… but 3 opens some eyes and gets you 2 likely Q1 victories

[Norm Peterson]

If we finish with a winning record with our schedule and don't at least make the NIT, then the whole scheme is crooked.

[FredsSlacks]

regardless what the kenpom says, if it comes down to the committee picking an 18 win wisconsin team or 19 win nebraska team, i think we have a good chance because we are the hotter team and more people will want to watch us.

[The Polish Rifle]

20 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

If we finish with a winning record with our schedule and don't at least make the NIT, then the whole scheme is crooked.

I believe the NIT guru told Washut we were in if we were .500 or better. So today should have done it. 

[Huskerpapa]

1 minute ago, The Polish Rifle said:

I believe the NIT guru told Washut we were in if we were .500 or better. So today should have done it. 

If so, will the committee also have the wisdom of providing us one or more home games, given our crowd sizes?

[hskr4life]

2 hours ago, FredsSlacks said:

so we are probably in the 80s now? wisconsin is listed as the last 4 in with 16 wins at 75...

 

i would imagine 2 more wins puts us right in the mix, and 3 more wins probably gives us a really good shot at making the tourney.

LOL still 93 in KenPom

[OmahaHusker]

47 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Nahh— Make it to Saturday and you’re in the discussion.  Make it to Sunday and you’re in regardless of situation.

 

Two won’t do anything… but 3 opens some eyes and gets you 2 likely Q1 victories

I agree with what you’re saying, but the committee has the bracket already set with pairings and seeding by Friday. That’s why they say tourney wins don’t do much for seed adjustments unless there’s last minute bid stealers. 

[hskr4life]

Just ran some SIM's on T-Rank.  As of now, it looks like the most likely path (first two games) are Minny and then Maryland.

 

Those two wins don't move the needle a ton.  Playing Minny again is going to pull us down.  

 

To seriously be in the discussion, T-Rank basically says we need to make it to Sunday.  That'd lower our NET to upper 70's, low 80's... and would give us 6 Q1 wins.

 

Let's just win the whole f-ing thing though.

[cornfed24-7]

3 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Just ran some SIM's on T-Rank.  As of now, it looks like the most likely path (first two games) are Minny and then Maryland.

 

Those two wins don't move the needle a ton.  Playing Minny again is going to pull us down.  

 

To seriously be in the discussion, T-Rank basically says we need to make it to Sunday.  That'd lower our NET to upper 70's, low 80's... and would give us 6 Q1 wins.

 

Let's just win the whole f-ing thing though.

 

[HuskerFever]

18 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

If so, will the committee also have the wisdom of providing us one or more home games, given our crowd sizes?

 

It's simple logic:

 

A. Do you keep winning more games?

B. Are you Nebraska?

 

If A, then host an NIT game.

 

If A+B, then automatic road NIT game.

[Dead Dog Alley]

3 hours ago, hskr4life said:

LOL still 93 in KenPom

 

If you are undefeated against teams ranked lower than you, and have won 8 games against teams higher than you...the rating system is getting something wrong.

[royalfan]

Nobody was happier that we beat Iowa than Collier.