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Norm Peterson
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The most Nebraska Basketball thing ever would be in a couple of years, after Ben Johnson proceeds to fail at Minnesota (he's headed that direction despite how things started last season), the Gophers

doc1394
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Let’s do a blind resume:   Team A: 9-7 and 2-3 in 3rd ranked conference. 4th highest SOS in the country and a win on the road over Team B.   Team B: 9-7 and 3-2 in 4th ranked confe

Norm Peterson
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I think some folks might be confused that the people complaining about NET rankings don't understand how NET rankings are computed. Let me just say I don't care HOW the rankings are computed; I only c

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OmahaHusker

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15 minutes ago, 49r said:

Check out Texas Tech's non conference strength of schedule:

 

Strength of Schedule
Components: 109.6 16 101.4 56 104.8
Overall: +8.13 28 0.00
Non-conference: -6.33 326 0.00

 

All the Big 12 teams are going to get the benefit of the doubt this year. League is just on another level compared to the rest.

hhcmatt

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18 minutes ago, 49r said:

Check out Texas Tech's non conference strength of schedule:

 

Strength of Schedule
Components: 109.6 16 101.4 56 104.8
Overall: +8.13 28 0.00
Non-conference: -6.33 326 0.00

 

Some of that was bad luck as they ended up with Louisville at Maui and were assigned Georgetown for their B12-BE matchup. They're a bubble team of sorts because their last 4 games almost all quad 1 games so they win 3 and at 18-13 they have a bunch of good wins with all those turds. 

hhcmatt

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It's very odd to think that somehow Nebraska is getting 'screwed over' in any manner when it's going to take a remarkable effort still to make the NIT.

 

In semi-related news, Illinois fell spots in KenPom and the NET because they only beat Minnesota by 9.

NUtball

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I don't give a rat's patoot how good your conference is perceived to be, if you can't win more than 1/3 of your conference games, you absolutely do not belong in any conversation concerning the NCAA tournament, no matter what some silly metric ranking says (e.g., West Virginia & Texas Tech).

 

I'd rather see some lesser conference team that had a great season but didn't win their tournament get a shot.  At least there would be a story of interest for the first game with a potential cinderella.  Nobody, and I mean nobody, outside West Virginia has any interest in a WVU game.  I actually know a handful of West Virginians who are sports fans and they're not even very interested.

OmahaHusker

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25 minutes ago, NUtball said:

I don't give a rat's patoot how good your conference is perceived to be, if you can't win more than 1/3 of your conference games, you absolutely do not belong in any conversation concerning the NCAA tournament, no matter what some silly metric ranking says (e.g., West Virginia & Texas Tech).

 

I'd rather see some lesser conference team that had a great season but didn't win their tournament get a shot.  At least there would be a story of interest for the first game with a potential cinderella.  Nobody, and I mean nobody, outside West Virginia has any interest in a WVU game.  I actually know a handful of West Virginians who are sports fans and they're not even very interested.

 

Oh I agree. I'd rather good mid-majors that slipped in their conference tourney get in over teams that finished in the bottom half of a power conference every time. 

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2 hours ago, 49r said:

Check out Texas Tech's non conference strength of schedule:

 

Strength of Schedule
Components: 109.6 16 101.4 56 104.8
Overall: +8.13 28 0.00
Non-conference: -6.33 326 0.00

 

I honestly have some doubts about the true significance of strength of schedule in relation to just piss pounding crappy teams with the NET.  It seems like a good SOS helps improve your floor, but not really your NET ceiling unless you are elite.  

OmahaHusker

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14 hours ago, huskerbill85 said:

So what would we have to do? Go 2-1 and win a game in the conference tourney most likely?

 

We go 2-1 we'd have to just win the BTT. We go 3-0 then I think 2 more would definitely get us a look. 

Nebrasketball1979

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2 hours ago, The Polish Rifle said:

To me, it feels like

 

16 Wins = NIT Bubble

17 Wins = NIT In

18 Wins = NCAA Bubble

19 Wins = NCAA In

 

Just my opinion!

I would slightly split hairs on this.  I am skeptical that 16 wins gets us in the NIT.  That would put our overall record at 16-16 and while you no longer have to be over .500 to qualify, I do think it's easy to ignore and overlook a .500 team with bad computer numbers.  

 

I think 17 is NIT bubble territory for that reason and 18 puts us squarely in the NIT.  At 19-15 or 19-16, I think we are on the the bubble but probably the wrong side as that's a lot of losses.  20 and we are probably dancing.  Just my two cents!

 

I still think it would be super helpful to win out in the regular season.  What this team needs is some press and national media coverage.  Get to 17-14 with six straight wins to end the season and little old Nebraska becomes a national story.  The resume gets thrown up on the screen and the talking heads will point out how deceiving the computer rankings are with this team.  They will point out the 8 quad 1 and 2 wins with ZERO quad 3 and 4 losses.  The resume on screen looks way better than computer numbers.  That's really what we need more than anything as I doubt the committee is reading this message board or really dissecting a team that is currently 14-14.

 

Just win baby!

HuskerActuary

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11 hours ago, The Polish Rifle said:

To me, it feels like

 

16 Wins = NIT Bubble

17 Wins = NIT In

18 Wins = NCAA Bubble

19 Wins = NCAA In

 

Just my opinion!

Agreed with Nebrasketball1979 above. Add 1 to each of these. This is unless they throw a bone our way for the potential media coverage/story.

 

17 Wins = NIT Bubble

18 Wins = NIT In

19 Wins = NCAA Bubble

20 Wins = NCAA In

hskr4life

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21 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

Wisconsin beating Iowa moved them back to a quad 2 win for us (they were quad 3 for awhile). Now there are just 36 teams in the country with more quad 1/2 wins than Nebraska.  There are just 26 teams that have zero quad 3/4 losses, and Nebraska is one of them. 

 

Makes the Minny game on Saturday one of the more meaningful games of the year.  Win that one and there are virtually no more Q3/Q4 games left unless you meet Minny in the B1G Tournament.  You also need to throw a little style points in there Saturday if you can.  Win small and we stay level/drop.  Win big and we probably stay level but could move up 1-2 spots.

OmahaHusker

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T3 Bracketology has them on the "Almost Flat Bubble"

 

BIG TEN

 

Locks: Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern

Should Be In: Rutgers, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan State

Bubble: Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan

Almost Flat Bubble: Nebraska

Northwestern moved into lock status from a bubble position after its latest fantastic stretch of basketball. Rutgers, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland and Michigan State all sit in a position where it will take a lot to miss the field, but not a full lock yet. Wisconsin and Penn State remain firmly on the bubble, and Michigan's win over Michigan State pushes them up to the bubble as well, but still out of the field. Nebraska will need to win its next four games, at minimum, to start to have real berth conversations, but the chances are not at 0%.

 

 

Norm Peterson

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30 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

Wisconsin beating Iowa moved them back to a quad 2 win for us (they were quad 3 for awhile). Now there are just 36 teams in the country with more quad 1/2 wins than Nebraska.  There are just 26 teams that have zero quad 3/4 losses, and Nebraska is one of them. 

 

How many of those are the same teams?

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