The Polish Rifle Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Buglem said: Don't blame Lee. I usually do but in this case there's only one person damaging the program and recruiting by not talking. His initials are SE. He could have cut the legs out of this story with a simple statement of support. By choosing not to he's sending a different message. Either the progress of the program is less important than his "policy" of not commenting mid season or he has thoughts of firing Miles. Any damage to the program lies at the feet of SE, not LB. What are your thoughts about his comments in late December coming out in support of Miles? I guess the rub comes with how people interpreted those comments. I took them as high optimism and SE will be evaluating Miles throughout the B1G slate (which could be considered a success barring a collapse these last couple weeks). I guess I feel like the only pressure on Miles is coming from the media and it's not the ADs job to release a statement of support every couple of weeks (or every time the media writes an article) to keep speculation away. Swan Ronson and Brick 2 Quote
HuskerBB Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, The Polish Rifle said: What are your thoughts about his comments in late December coming out in support of Miles? I guess the rub comes with how people interpreted those comments. I took them as high optimism and SE will be evaluating Miles throughout the B1G slate (which could be considered a success barring a collapse these last couple weeks). I guess I feel like the only pressure on Miles is coming from the media and it's not the ADs job to release a statement of support every couple of weeks (or every time the media writes an article) to keep speculation away. The pressure that Miles has felt this season is NOT coming from the media. HB, Ron Mexico, Pistol00 and 2 others 5 Quote
HB Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Polish Rifle said: What are your thoughts about his comments in late December coming out in support of Miles? I guess the rub comes with how people interpreted those comments. I took them as high optimism and SE will be evaluating Miles throughout the B1G slate (which could be considered a success barring a collapse these last couple weeks). I guess I feel like the only pressure on Miles is coming from the media and it's not the ADs job to release a statement of support every couple of weeks (or every time the media writes an article) to keep speculation away. I am not Buglem, but here are my thoughts: I don't trust public comments such as these coming from this guy. I do trust my sources in the University system, athletic department, and basketball program. I also trust my personal interactions with Eichorst, my experience, and common sense more than I trust much of what comes out of Eichorst's mouth. So, if you take those comments at face value, they do tell a story in the way you took them. And I hope you took them correctly. It's just that circumstances prevent me from taking them at anything approaching face value. Silverbacked1, Pistol00, Buglem and 1 other 4 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 Every coach should coach as if their job is on the line, but at this point, Coach Miles' should not be worried. Perhaps next year, but certainly not this year. jason2486 and The Polish Rifle 2 Quote
Buglem Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, The Polish Rifle said: What are your thoughts about his comments in late December coming out in support of Miles? I guess the rub comes with how people interpreted those comments. I took them as high optimism and SE will be evaluating Miles throughout the B1G slate (which could be considered a success barring a collapse these last couple weeks). I guess I feel like the only pressure on Miles is coming from the media and it's not the ADs job to release a statement of support every couple of weeks (or every time the media writes an article) to keep speculation away. I read his comments very closely. He uses "lawyer speak" very well. Words things in a way that someone that likes Miles will think is in support of him but always leaves wiggle room so if he makes a change it doesn't look like he lied. I had the same impression of Boehm's response today. I wanted to believe it was an endorsement of Miles but it stopped short of that. BTW, the paranoid part of me wondered why that didn't come from SE. Of course that would've made praising SE in the release a little more awkward... If they seriously believe he should be back next year, just say it. Enough political speak. I think that's part of what frustrates people. Crap or get off the pot, stop talking about how you think we putting all the necessary things in place to make crap to put in the pot. Art Vandalay, Jugular, The Polish Rifle and 2 others 5 Quote
The Polish Rifle Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, HB said: I am not Buglem, but here are my thoughts: I don't trust public comments such as these coming from this guy. I do trust my sources in the University system, athletic department, and basketball program. I also trust my personal interactions with Eichorst, my experience, and common sense more than I trust much of what comes out of Eichorst's mouth. So, if you take those comments at face value, they do tell a story in the way you took them. And I hope you took them correctly. It's just that circumstances prevent me from taking them at anything approaching face value. Well that explains our difference in opinion. Never met SE, only know him as the calculated speaker we see pop his head out every couple months. And the only people I know in the AD are the strength and conditioning guys I interned with. Perspective is everything. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, HuskerBB said: The pressure that Miles has felt this season is NOT coming from the media. Any pressure that is being felt could have been subsided by winning games. I'd imagine, just about every coach that may be coming up on three consecutive losing season is feeling some sort of pressure to win. I have never been on board with some on here that thought Miles job status was safe, right or wrong. If Eichorst had ANY thought of maybe going in a different direction after this year I don't know why he would come out in support for Miles right now only to fire him weeks from now. Edited February 22, 2017 by huskerbaseball13 brfrad and Ron Mexico 1 1 Quote
Art Vandalay Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Buglem said: I read his comments very closely. He uses "lawyer speak" very well. Words things in a way that someone that likes Miles will think is in support of him but always leaves wiggle room so if he makes a change it doesn't look like he lied. I had the same impression of Boehm's response today. I wanted to believe it was an endorsement of Miles but it stopped short of that. BTW, the paranoid part of me wondered why that didn't come from SE. Of course that would've made praising SE in the release a little more awkward... If they seriously believe he should be back next year, just say it. Enough political speak. I think that's part of what frustrates people. Crap or get off the pot, stop talking about how you think we putting all the necessary things in place to make crap to put in the pot. Exactly, SE is actually hurting the program with this type of communication. Do what is best for the program, support Tim as long as he is our coach, make it easier not harder to recruit. Then if things fall apart and you make the decision to fire him and do it. Sure short term SE might be called a liar or whatever but it will go away and it is better for his image to suffer a tiny bit than letting the program suffer. Take one for the team Sean after all you claim to be doing everything possible to help our programs. Quote
tcp Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 Eichorst has only himself to blame for letting football pressure compel him to break his own "rule". Do it once, the media will be all over you to do it again. And again. I'm not worried. Timmeh will be back, as is proper. After Pelini and Yori, the last thing this AD would likely want is yet another season of coaching melodrama. After awhile, people are going to start seeing you as the common denominator of the craziness. Stability's going to win this offseason with hoops. Quote
nvhcynt Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 I can assure you the LJS was NOT getting leaks from the athletic department. Yes, that's what Sam, Lee and others believe, as it pertains to the big Yori scoop, because they couldn't possibly fathom that reporters at the LJS could, you know, actually do some digging and reporting without direct leaks. They're just sore, that's all. hhcmatt 1 Quote
Swan88 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 The Polish Rifle, Bugeaters1 and Silverbacked1 3 Quote
The Polish Rifle Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Swan88 said: Hard to believe he's not referring to Lee's article with those opening remarks. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
jimmykc Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 Did they make him stand in a pit or were all the journalists 7 feet tall? Tim seemed to be looking up at questioners through the whole interview. Quote
Cazzie22 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 I want Miles to stay and am willing that his contract be extended. This is regardless of how the season ends. The AD has bigger concerns in other areas of the Athletic Department where several programs are barely competitive in or out of league play. Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 I want Miles to stay and am willing that his contract be extended. This is regardless of how the season ends. The AD has bigger concerns in other areas of the Athletic Department where several programs are barely competitive in or out of league play.Softball for oneSent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk huskerbaseball13 1 Quote
HB Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, nvhcynt said: I can assure you the LJS was NOT getting leaks from the athletic department. Yes, that's what Sam, Lee and others believe, as it pertains to the big Yori scoop, because they couldn't possibly fathom that reporters at the LJS could, you know, actually do some digging and reporting without direct leaks. They're just sore, that's all. Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. Quote
Ron Mexico Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 Been saying for weeks that next season for TM is not assured. Going to be dealing with the fallout from this article until the end of the season and beyond. Can't necessarily blame LB, despise him as I do, for writing an article about what everyone has been talking about(see the 24 page thread here at HHC) since the injury to Morrow and the losing streak. The lack of a contract extension to the standard 5yr deal was the first piece of wood on the fire and it was put their by SE. BP was right about SE. Once the Callaghan part 2 experiment goes up in flames then we will be able to rid ourselves of him and his Jon Gordon motivational books once and for all. huskerbaseball13 and Pistol00 1 1 Quote
nvhcynt Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, HB said: Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. Yes we will. Vehemently. Quote
FredsSlacks Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Eichorst needs to put an end to this. Miles job should not be in jeopardy at this current time. if ed doesn't get hurt, we'd be 15-11 in a year where we had no expectations. even at 12-14 we're exceeding expectations after losing shields/white who are probably 2 of the top 10 players to play here in the last 15 years. Edited February 22, 2017 by TimSmiles Quote
Red Rum Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 Good news is that when we start making B1G money this summer, Coach Miles can feel a little less guilty about running Eichorst's butt over the coals for that extension when he runs the table and gets a win in the NCAA tournament. Quote
CrazyforNUHOOPS Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, jimmykc said: Did they make him stand in a pit or were all the journalists 7 feet tall? Tim seemed to be looking up at questioners through the whole interview. He's sitting down. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, TimSmiles said: Eichorst needs to put an end to this. Miles job should not be in jeopardy at this current time. if ed doesn't get hurt, we'd be 15-11 in a year where we had no expectations. even at 12-14 we're exceeding expectations after losing shields/white who are probably 2 of the top 10 players to play here in the last 15 years. With Shields/White last year we went 16-18(6-12). That's probably not the drum Miles wants to beat. Nor is claiming at 12-14 we are exceeding expectations. Losing Morrow this year is a viable excuse. He was probably worth 1-2 wins when he was out. But, he was also injured last year and very well could go thru the same deal the next few years. Edited February 22, 2017 by huskerbaseball13 Quote
cipsucks Posted February 22, 2017 Report Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, CrazyforNUHOOPS said: He's sitting down. On a seat Eichorst put hot flaming coals under.... Quote
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