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6 hours ago, brfrad said:

What irks me most about officiating is the inconsistencies.   I know refs aren't going to be able to call every foul, travel, carry, etc.  However, you have to call it both ways.  Case in point.  I was watching I believe St John's/Arkansas.  Arkansas drives.  Defender goes straight up.  Arkansas players bumps into St John's.  Foul on St John's.  Player fouls out.  Very next trip, St John's drives.  Arkansas defender brings arms down.  St John's player bumps into him.  No foul.  How?  I could even understand it if the 2nd play happens 20 minutes later.  But, this was literally back-to-back possessions. 

As a fan that gets on refs all I've ever wanted is consistency. Don't care if consistent good or consistent bad just be consistent. And it also makes me shake my head on how arrogant some refs act. If you are so good at your job replay shouldn't be needed. They reviewed a 3 pointer yesterday and shooter was about a foot behind the line. Why in the heck does something that obvious need to be checked. Of course I think refs like reviewing stuff so they can be seen and heard by tv audience.

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23 minutes ago, roscoe said:

As a fan that gets on refs all I've ever wanted is consistency. Don't care if consistent good or consistent bad just be consistent. And it also makes me shake my head on how arrogant some refs act. If you are so good at your job replay shouldn't be needed. They reviewed a 3 pointer yesterday and shooter was about a foot behind the line. Why in the heck does something that obvious need to be checked. Of course I think refs like reviewing stuff so they can be seen and heard by tv audience.


I think refs are hindered by what they can and cannot review. That sucks— because there are obvious clear and correctable calls/errors that aren’t reviewable.

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To be clear, Hurley ranted and cussed.  Although boorish and expected from him, especially after a loss; he was not the one that issued the threat.   It is the SID that should be held accountable by both the school and authorities. 

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9 minutes ago, basketballjones said:

Hmmm. I thought these types of programs made absolute killings in their non-con playing p5 teams. 

Maybe they did. Maybe those aren't going to be the payments going forward though. Got to have money to pay the athletes so not as deep a money pool anymore to buy games. That's my suspicion.

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On 3/24/2025 at 11:29 AM, brfrad said:

What irks me most about officiating is the inconsistencies.   I know refs aren't going to be able to call every foul, travel, carry, etc.  However, you have to call it both ways.  Case in point.  I was watching I believe St John's/Arkansas.  Arkansas drives.  Defender goes straight up.  Arkansas players bumps into St John's.  Foul on St John's.  Player fouls out.  Very next trip, St John's drives.  Arkansas defender brings arms down.  St John's player bumps into him.  No foul.  How?  I could even understand it if the 2nd play happens 20 minutes later.  But, this was literally back-to-back possessions. 

In basketball, since the officials rotate after foul calls, you often get different perspectives on each end of the court. One official may allow a bit more the the other…they could be consistent but if rotations happen to put one official on one end more often than the other..or in the center position more often..then you end up with inconsistencies even though each official individually could be being consistent.

 

in football, it is generally the same officials making the same calls, so consistency should be better…

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37 minutes ago, Cazzie22 said:

Why are these Sweet 16 games such blowouts?  Not sure anyone would beat Alabama tonight.  Maybe the late games will be more competitive.


Was 22-44!!! at one point on threes tonight. Just for reference, we had 22 threes in our last three games combined and one of those was a 2OT 116-114 game.

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40 minutes ago, hskr4life said:
1 hour ago, Cazzie22 said:

Why are these Sweet 16 games such blowouts?  Not sure anyone would beat Alabama tonight.  Maybe the late games will be more competitive.


Was 22-44!!! at one point on threes tonight. Just for reference, we had 22 threes in our last three games combined and one of those was a 2OT 116-114 game.

 

It's also worth noting that Alabama is #1 in the country for average points per game, with 90.8. But they may have hit that average with 10 minutes to go in the game.

 

(Florida is #3 in the country with 85.4 PPG.)

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Quite a comeback last night by Texas Tech.  Still trying to understand how they accomplished it.  The B1G gets its chance tonight.  Michigan St has the best opportunity to advance.  

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On 3/25/2025 at 10:01 PM, Blindcheck said:

In basketball, since the officials rotate after foul calls, you often get different perspectives on each end of the court. One official may allow a bit more the the other…they could be consistent but if rotations happen to put one official on one end more often than the other..or in the center position more often..then you end up with inconsistencies even though each official individually could be being consistent.

 

in football, it is generally the same officials making the same calls, so consistency should be better…

And I understand that but they should communicate before the game how they plan on calling the game. You can watch a game and see 10 illegal screens and halfway through the 2nd half and out of the blue an illegal screen gets called. And people want to say that Queen's game winner was a travel versus Colorado St. How many travels went uncalled in previous 39:59.   

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1 hour ago, roscoe said:

And I understand that but they should communicate before the game how they plan on calling the game. You can watch a game and see 10 illegal screens and halfway through the 2nd half and out of the blue an illegal screen gets called. And people want to say that Queen's game winner was a travel versus Colorado St. How many travels went uncalled in previous 39:59.   

They do have these type of discussions, but still what one sees as illegal contact, another still might not.  I work very low level basketball, and I see guys call all sorts of stuff that I would let go.  and I cam sure I call some things that others would let go.

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37 minutes ago, Blindcheck said:

They do have these type of discussions, but still what one sees as illegal contact, another still might not.  I work very low level basketball, and I see guys call all sorts of stuff that I would let go.  and I cam sure I call some things that others would let go.

 

Yup.  One thing I have noticed the little I have officiated is that every play looks different.  You try to be consistent but it is not that easy and sometimes it is just a quick reaction without being able to think it through.  I think the goal of every official is to let the kids decide the game without letting it get out of control, which in today's game, is tougher than ever.  The game is so much more physical that it use to be.  If you get a chance go back and watch some college ball from the 80's and compare it to today as far as ball pressure, hand checking and post defense goes.  

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