Missing out on players from Nebraska.

[hskr4life]

9 hours ago, HB said:

 

Got bad news for you.   Meah and Berke were more than a combined $1M.  

 

[HB]

2 hours ago, Fastbreaker said:

Where can I find a official accurate list of Nil payments versus all the numbers I see thrown around the message boards. Makes me thinks you don't know what you talking about  

 

Of course, you can't.   And you won't.   Even when the University makes it's own spend in the near future, you won't hear what each individual player is getting.  Not sure if we'll even know how the roughly $22 million is allocated among the programs.   And feel free to be skeptical about what you see thrown around on message boards, because a lot of it is indeed wrong.  But sometimes the info comes from people close to Fred, or the donors, or the NIL leaders, and is pretty accurate.  Hard for the reader to parse out who might be just throwing out inaccurate hearsay, and those who know some stuff.  

[HB]

2 hours ago, millerhusker said:

When you factor in Berke's being a two year agreement, is it still over $1M for this year?

 

I believe yes.   Things have been changing  dramatically with NIL over the past couple of years.  Prices escalated substantially.   Last portal season that happened to a large degree in just the few weeks of the portal season.  That is, from the time Gary and Williams signed their deals, to the time Meah and Berke were signed.  Agents were figuring out leverage, and perceived desperation drives up prices.   

[hhcmatt]

Speaking of Nebraska kids, seems like we could have landed Fidler or Tonje for Meah money. Hopefully we learned the lesson.

 

Also if we can turn Frager or Bolis into viable rotation pieces that's a big value save over free agents 

[The Polish Rifle]

34 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Speaking of Nebraska kids, seems like we could have landed Fidler or Tonje for Meah money. Hopefully we learned the lesson.

 

Also if we can turn Frager or Bolis into viable rotation pieces that's a big value save over free agents 

Moneyball for college basketball. Pay proven pieces, find cheap production. For a team that can’t spend like the Yankees (or Duke) playing big money for guys like Meah isn’t a luxury we have. I know it won’t translate as well to the B1G, but watching conf tournaments this weekend - it was crazy how many all conf guys teams like Drake and UC San Diego have that were plucked from D2 - I’m sure they came fairly cheap too. 

[Huskerpapa]

Here is a naive question.  The media (and others) can compel salary information on coaches, professors, and the like as it is supposedly public information.  Why doesn't the same hold true for the athletes?  Are they not employees of the university?  I also assume they are also eligible for various other employee benefits.

[doc1394]

15 hours ago, Cazzie22 said:

Best player I have seen at State Tournament is Nate Kelly, the Junior Point Guard for Scottsbluff.  He not only runs the offense but has had to defend one of Skutt’s 6’9” guys.  

Hope they take a long look at him too. He seems like he’s got what you need to succeed even if he is a tad undersized. 

[jimmykc]

Here's a question I just thought of-Do today's high school seniors also demand NIL money to sign? Just wondering.

[cornfed24-7]

4 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

 

This is the byproduct of having no regulations and living in the wild wild west. There's also different laws by state which make it difficult and there's no requirement for transparency. In fact, many schools don't disclose anything under the guise of student privacy, state law, or simply not sharing figures to try to maintain stronger negotiating power.

 

Unless a regulation comes in by the state or federal government or by the student athlete governing bodies, there will never be a clear list of NIL for each player.

We're only a money laundering/ tax evasion/random criminal finacial scheme away from major regulation.  So go ahead and hold your breath because regulations will be here soon.

[cornfed24-7]

30 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

Are they not employees of the university? 

Nope. And that's a hill Universities will die on. Because once they become employees you have opened Pandoras Box. 

[HuskerFever]

49 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

Here is a naive question.  The media (and others) can compel salary information on coaches, professors, and the like as it is supposedly public information.  Why doesn't the same hold true for the athletes?  Are they not employees of the university?  I also assume they are also eligible for various other employee benefits.

 

Student athletes at private schools have the ability to unionize, as found by the ruling in favor of Dartmouth College. This doesn't apply to public schools.

[HuskerFever]

24 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

We're only a money laundering/ tax evasion/random criminal finacial scheme away from major regulation.  So go ahead and hold your breath because regulations will be here soon.

 

If not regulation, certainly there has to be a point where businesses, universities, and individuals find the ROI just isn't there at these levels of spending. You'd imagine, whether regulated or not, that some form of "right-sizing" would occur at some point.

[LincecumFan]

48 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

Hope they take a long look at him too. He seems like he’s got what you need to succeed even if he is a tad undersized. 

https://x.com/natekelley_5/status/1827510000115220978?t=C9IZtJ2nruaFj1lNyS8-Aw&s=19

NU definitely knows he's out there. However to date it appears his offers have all been from the D2 level.

[hhcmatt]

1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

Here is a naive question.  The media (and others) can compel salary information on coaches, professors, and the like as it is supposedly public information.  Why doesn't the same hold true for the athletes?  Are they not employees of the university?  I also assume they are also eligible for various other employee benefits.

 

At this point the university isn't paying athletes; 1890 is. 

[MJW82]

2 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

 

If not regulation, certainly there has to be a point where businesses, universities, and individuals find the ROI just isn't there at these levels of spending. You'd imagine, whether regulated or not, that some form of "right-sizing" would occur at some point.

If we were to see a recession and NIL defaults/evaporation of future commitments, I would guess that it would be a pretty big catalyst for changes in process 

[hhcmatt]

The funny thing when people talk about how much Fred is being paid is that we gave him a $1 mil / year raise and 2 years while keeping the buyout high specifically so he would not leave. 

 

Think that people had a legit concern about the in-game coaching chops of Miles. Don't get that feedback with Fred Maybe instead of trying to pay $13 Mil+ for a new coach maybe a new 250k assistant would tip the scales enough

[Faux Mike Peltz]

Will not see an official publication of NIL payouts per player and total spend by team. And no coach is going to come out and say the number. Other schools would jump all over that in recruiting, using that info to their advantage. I know Robin has said the total NIL was around 2.5 million. I believe it was slightly below that, but not by too much. I do know we got an absolute steal with Brice in comparison to his stats, impact, and first team all conference selection 

[The Polish Rifle]

17 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

The funny thing when people talk about how much Fred is being paid is that we gave him a $1 mil / year raise and 2 years while keeping the buyout high specifically so he would not leave. 

 

Think that people had a legit concern about the in-game coaching chops of Miles. Don't get that feedback with Fred Maybe instead of trying to pay $13 Mil+ for a new coach maybe a new 250k assistant would tip the scales enough

With how poor our offense looked this year, I found it odd our two X’s and O’s Assts are defensive guys. Howard kind of seems like the odd man out. 

[Dead Dog Alley]

5 hours ago, cornfed24-7 said:

Nope. And that's a hill Universities will die on. Because once they become employees you have opened Pandoras Box. 

 

Once they become employees, by what logic or legal standard do you limit them to four years of eligibility, or impose academic requirements.

[HuskerFever]

Wild to think some teams would spend $30M across 10 years to have 25-50% success in making the NCAA tournament.

[HB]

10 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

Here is a naive question.  The media (and others) can compel salary information on coaches, professors, and the like as it is supposedly public information.  Why doesn't the same hold true for the athletes?  Are they not employees of the university?  I also assume they are also eligible for various other employee benefits.

 

They sign personal services contracts with NIL and are deemed to be independent contractors.  They get 1099s for tax purposes rather than W-2s.  Would not be subject to public disclosure of salaries.  Once the Universities are paying the players directly--soon--I would expect a legal challenge to the players' status.   And perhaps compelling payment info.  

Edited March 17 by HB

[hhcmatt]

23 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

The funny thing when people talk about how much Fred is being paid is that we gave him a $1 mil / year raise and 2 years while keeping the buyout high specifically so he would not leave. 

 

Think that people had a legit concern about the in-game coaching chops of Miles. Don't get that feedback with Fred Maybe instead of trying to pay $13 Mil+ for a new coach maybe a new 250k assistant would tip the scales enough

 

I wish Fred was cut-throat enough to hire whoever the best assistant at Iowa was

[LincecumFan]

https://www.etgmidwest.com/

 

If donating to your favorite college program is not to your liking, maybe helping develop high school basketball prospects from this region is more preferable.

Edited Saturday at 11:25 PM by LincecumFan

[nustudent]

6 minutes ago, LincecumFan said:

https://www.etgmidwest.com/

 

If donating to your favorite college program is not to your liking, maybe helping develop high school bb athletes from this region is more preferable.

Not sure we want to donate to that before they sign here 

Edited Saturday at 11:30 PM by nustudent

[Vinny]

1 hour ago, nustudent said:

Not sure we want to donate to that before they sign here 

Who? Every kid at ETG?