KenPom 2024-2025 KenPom Rankings Thread

[49r]

It's that time of year again; Ken Pomeroy just dropped his rankings for the new season and hoo boy does the Big Ten look like it's gonna be a slog!  Once again Nebraska comes in with an all time high ranking to start the season (Hoiberg era) at #56.  Two spots ahead of last year's starting position.  In terms of predicted league finish, he's got Purdue winning the league title comfortably, then the next FIFTEEN schools are predicted to finish between 11-9 and 9-11.  5 teams each in the 11-9, 10-10, and 9-11 groups.  Nebraska is predicted to go 16-13 (9-11). Okay, and for the first time this season, here we go!

 

KenPom rankings as of 10-14-24

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B1G (0-0):
10. Purdue (A)
23. Illinois (H)
26. UCLA (H)

29. Oregon (A)

31. Ohio State (2)
33. Iowa (2)
35. Michigan State (A)
36. Michigan (H)
37. Maryland (2)
39. Indiana (H)
46. Wisconsin (A)
50. Northwestern (A)
56. Nebraska
57. USC (H)

59. Minnesota (H)

61. Penn State (A)
63. Rutgers (H)
75. Washington (A)

 

 

Non-Conference (0-0):
307. UTRGV

301. Bethune Cookman
351. Farliegh Dickinson

---Sanford Pentagon---
34. Saint Mary’s

 

12. @Creighton

265. South Dakota
253. North Florida

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

112. Murray State

128./198. Charlotte/Hawaii

144./136./79./173. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

249. Southern

[49r]

To add some contrast, Torvik has a slightly different outlook and he REALLY likes Rutgers for some reason.  He also has UCLA with the easiest conference schedule:

 

 

B10 Conference Info 2025

 

			OVERALL ADJ. EFFICIENCY			CONF. EMS		CONF-ONLY ADJ. EFF.						CONF. SOS
RK	TEAM	REC	ADJOE	ADJDE	BARTHAG	RAW	ADJ	CONOE		CONDE		BARTHAG	PROJ. REC	SO FAR		REMAIN		TOTAL
17	Purdue	0-0	114.9 20	95.0 18	.8988	0	0	0.0	18	0.0	18	.0	19-11 (12-8)	.0	18	.8471	5	.8471	5
18	Michigan St.	0-0	112.8 48	93.8 8	.8921	0	0	0.0	13	0.0	13	.0	20-9 (12-8)	.0	13	.8391	17	.8391	17
19	Rutgers	0-0	111.9 52	93.2 6	.8916	0	0	0.0	12	0.0	12	.0	20-11 (12-8)	.0	12	.8447	11	.8447	11
21	Illinois	0-0	113.3 42	94.6 14	.8882	0	0	0.0	11	0.0	11	.0	20-11 (11-9)	.0	11	.8451	8	.8451	8
24	UCLA	0-0	114.0 31	95.7 24	.8821	0	0	0.0	14	0.0	14	.0	20-11 (11-9)	.0	14	.8364	18	.8364	18
30	Indiana	0-0	114.9 19	97.6 52	.8679	0	0	0.0	15	0.0	15	.0	19-10 (11-9)	.0	15	.8419	14	.8419	14
33	Michigan	0-0	115.4 17	98.6 78	.8596	0	0	0.0	17	0.0	17	.0	18-12 (10-10)	.0	17	.8501	2	.8501	2
34	Ohio St.	0-0	114.6 22	98.0 62	.8582	0	0	0.0	16	0.0	16	.0	18-13 (10-10)	.0	16	.8449	9	.8449	9
41	Wisconsin	0-0	113.0 45	97.4 50	.8476	0	0	0.0	10	0.0	10	.0	18-12 (10-10)	.0	10	.8404	16	.8404	16
42	Maryland	0-0	110.1 74	94.9 17	.8469	0	0	0.0	9	0.0	9	.0	19-12 (10-10)	.0	9	.8449	10	.8449	10
44	Oregon	0-0	113.2 43	97.8 57	.8436	0	0	0.0	3	0.0	3	.0	18-13 (10-10)	.0	3	.8445	12	.8445	12
45	Iowa	0-0	115.6 15	100.0 94	.8417	0	0	0.0	2	0.0	2	.0	19-12 (10-10)	.0	2	.8420	13	.8420	13
47	Nebraska	0-0	111.6 56	96.6 39	.8399	0	0	0.0	1	0.0	1	.0	17-12 (10-10)	.0	1	.8464	6	.8464	6
48	Northwestern	0-0	111.5 58	96.6 37	.8396	0	0	0.0	4	0.0	4	.0	18-12 (10-10)	.0	4	.8492	3	.8492	3
50	USC	0-0	115.2 18	100.0 92	.8358	0	0	0.0	5	0.0	5	.0	18-12 (9-11)	.0	5	.8411	15	.8411	15
71	Minnesota	0-0	111.2 62	99.5 86	.7830	0	0	0.0	8	0.0	8	.0	17-13 (8-12)	.0	8	.8462	7	.8462	7
73	Washington	0-0	109.3 84	98.0 61	.7783	0	0	0.0	7	0.0	7	.0	15-15 (8-12)	.0	7	.8511	1	.8511	1
74	Penn St.	0-0	109.1 87	97.9 59	.7775	0	0	0.0	6	0.0	6	.0	16-14 (8-12)	.0	6	.8486	4	.8486	4

Compiled by Bart Torvik from sacred data and secret formulas.

 

 

[hskr4life]

30 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

 

Non-Conference (0-0):
307. UTRGV

301. Bethune Cookman
351. Farliegh Dickinson

---Sanford Pentagon---
34. Saint Mary’s

 

12. @Creighton

265. South Dakota
253. North Florida

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

112. Murray State

128./198. Charlotte/Hawaii

144./136./79./173. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

249. Southern

Amazing we only got 3 BTN+ games with this non-con schedule. 

[49r]

On 10/14/2024 at 8:49 AM, 49r said:

Nebraska is predicted to go 16-13 (9-11).

 

I just realized that Ken is not including the last two games in the Diamond Head Classic in this prediction.  We should be favored in those two games so my best guess is his actual prediction would be more like 18-13, which, with our SOS probably puts us in NIT lock territory.

[kldm64]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

 

I just realized that Ken is not including the last two games in the Diamond Head Classic in this prediction.  We should be favored in those two games so my best guess is his actual prediction would be more like 18-13, which, with our SOS probably puts us in NIT lock territory.

 

That is correct which is why I was so critical of our non-conference schedule.  It could bite us in the end with such a low SOS.  This a Doc Sadler kind of schedule and absolutely no non conference home games that will draw much of a crowd and/or atmosphere.  It would be extremely disappointing to just make NIT this year.

[hhcmatt]

23 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

 

That is correct which is why I was so critical of our non-conference schedule.  It could bite us in the end with such a low SOS.  This a Doc Sadler kind of schedule and absolutely no non conference home games that will draw much of a crowd and/or atmosphere.  It would be extremely disappointing to just make NIT this year.

 

On the other hand it was also the type of schedule that got us into the tournament last year

[49r]

 
On the other hand it was also the type of schedule that got us into the tournament last year

Beating #1 ranked Purdue put us in the tournament let’s be honest. Without that win we would have been really sweating selection Sunday.

[49r]

4 hours ago, kldm64 said:

 

That is correct which is why I was so critical of our non-conference schedule.  It could bite us in the end with such a low SOS.  This a Doc Sadler kind of schedule and absolutely no non conference home games that will draw much of a crowd and/or atmosphere.  It would be extremely disappointing to just make NIT this year.

 

Well, that would make the Saint Mary's game pretty crucial for us then.  Flip that game to a W in our favor then do the rest of the things as predicted and we'll have a much stronger case for a tournament berth.

[hhcmatt]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

Beating #1 ranked Purdue put us in the tournament let’s be honest. Without that win we would have been really sweating selection Sunday.

 

Really the question is whether or not we need those types of games to figure out our team because it's not like playing a tougher schedule and then losing those games is some sort of great alternative to playing a weak non-con.

 

Our non-con does limit our exposure to meaningful win possibilities but at this point the B1G looks like most every game will be meaningful for making the tourney. 

[thrasher31]

29 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

Well, that would make the Saint Mary's game pretty crucial for us then.  Flip that game to a W in our favor then do the rest of the things as predicted and we'll have a much stronger case for a tournament berth.

Definitely think st Mary's is a super important game. Getting a W there would go a long way. Not getting blown out by Creighton would help too. 

 

Predictions are predictions, so they're not perfect. 

[cornfed24-7]

1 hour ago, thrasher31 said:

Not getting blown out by Creighton would help too.

Oooooooooooor knocking the barn doors off Creighton would help too. I prefer my scenario

[49r]

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Really the question is whether or not we need those types of games to figure out our team because it's not like playing a tougher schedule and then losing those games is some sort of great alternative to playing a weak non-con.

 

Our non-con does limit our exposure to meaningful win possibilities but at this point the B1G looks like most every game will be meaningful for making the tourney. 

 

Otherwise known as the John Thompson, Jr. scheduling philosophy.  Georgetown would always load up on the softest cupcakes in the non-con every year, beat everyone by 50 and then do okay in the Big East and boom!  22 wins and a tourney bid.  Every year.

[cornfed24-7]

20 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

Otherwise known as the John Thompson, Jr. scheduling philosophy.  Georgetown would always load up on the softest cupcakes in the non-con every year, beat everyone by 50 and then do okay in the Big East and boom!  22 wins and a tourney bid.  Every year.

I like this for this year. I think it's the perfect strategy. I also reserve the right to curse this strategy if we mess around and lose to a South Mississippi State University - Biloxi type team

[Handy Johnson]

Alright Ken Pom, I know you’re still Smarting from that BEATING I laid on you a couple years ago, but here’s the Deal, I like the Huskers say “Go Hard or Go Home”…! 

[SkersHoops]

On 10/16/2024 at 5:16 PM, cornfed24-7 said:

Oooooooooooor knocking the barn doors off Creighton would help too. I prefer my scenario

I will say.... Our last 2 tourney appearances in the dance included fugly losses to the blue team. I like your plan better though! 

[hskr4life]

Wisconsin………

 

 

[thrasher31]

9 hours ago, hskr4life said:

Wisconsin………

 

 

https://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Northern+Iowa&year=2025

 

Looks like they're being projected to finish pretty high on the MVC, but Wisconsin shouldn't lose to them still. A sign of things to come, as I think this may be a rough year for them. Crowl is arguably their best player, or klesmit, and neither are guys you want to be your best player in this conference. 

[HuskerActuary]

10 hours ago, hskr4life said:

Wisconsin………

 

 

I'm going to assume that Connor Essegian isn't too disappointed to hear about that. Not sure if there are hard feelings or not, but I would assume there is somewhat given how drastically his playing time was cut.

[hskr4life]

4 hours ago, HuskerActuary said:

I'm going to assume that Connor Essegian isn't too disappointed to hear about that. Not sure if there are hard feelings or not, but I would assume there is somewhat given how drastically his playing time was cut.

would be even better if they were 25% from deep.

[HB]

7 hours ago, thrasher31 said:

https://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Northern+Iowa&year=2025

 

Looks like they're being projected to finish pretty high on the MVC, but Wisconsin shouldn't lose to them still. A sign of things to come, as I think this may be a rough year for them. Crowl is arguably their best player, or klesmit, and neither are guys you want to be your best player in this conference. 

 

All interesting stuff, but for the rest of my life I will be traumatized by my conclusions following our destruction of Colorado in the exhibition game 3 years ago.  My defense mechanisms now lead me to not put much stock in exhibitions....

[AuroranHusker]

10 hours ago, HB said:

 

All interesting stuff, but for the rest of my life I will be traumatized by my conclusions following our destruction of Colorado in the exhibition game 3 years ago.  My defense mechanisms now lead me to not put much stock in exhibitions....

 

That was a fun night and was a sign of things to come.... only issue is that the 'things to come' consisted of their final 3 regular season games, ruining other teams' Senior Night at the bitter end of a very long season.

[49r]

Hadn't seen this yet:

 

Can't say I agree with it, but whatever.

[49r]

Slipped two spots after last night.   Big jumps for Ohio State, Michigan and UCLA after huge blowout wins.  Our Non-Con SOS is at #196, so winning (preferably big) is of the utmost importance for us to have any postseason hopes.

 

Surprisingly, even given the strength of the Big Ten from top to bottom (highest ranked worst team by far) Ken only has the Big Ten as #3 conference, owing mostly to the fact that we have 0 top ten teams, while the Big 12 has 4 and the SEC has 2.  Conference play is gonna be a bloodbath.  For the second time this season, here we go!

 

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KenPom rankings as of 11-05-24

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B1G (0-0):
11. Purdue (A)
19. UCLA (H)

21. Illinois (H)

20. Ohio State (2)
25. Michigan (H)
33. Oregon (A)

34. Michigan State (A)
36. Maryland (2)
37. Iowa (2)
38. Northwestern (A)
42. Indiana (H)
44. USC (H)

48. Wisconsin (A)
54. Penn State (A)
59. Nebraska

61. Minnesota (H)

64. Rutgers (H)
73. Washington (A)

 

 

Non-Conference (1-0):
306. UTRGV - W

304. Bethune Cookman
352. Farliegh Dickinson

---Sanford Pentagon---
41. Saint Mary’s

 

10. @Creighton

237. South Dakota
204. North Florida

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

112. Murray State

133./198. Charlotte/Hawaii

123./125./95./174. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

275. Southern

[aphilso1]

1 through 18 in the conference are only separated by 62 spots. Truly, any team can win any night in conference play.  December can't come soon enough, it's gonna be fun!

[AGHANSEN]

Since every team has played a game, KenPom has his full rankings out.

Nebraska ranks 16 in average height and 25 in experience. 

Our non-con schedule ranks 211.