Chris Beard

[Norm Peterson]

@hhcmatt: His girlfriend is saying it was a big misunderstanding and he isn't guilty of what he's been charged with.

 

I think he should be eligible for employment, and I would be OK if we hired him, assuming we had an open spot.

[aphilso1]

59 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

@hhcmatt: His girlfriend is saying it was a big misunderstanding and he isn't guilty of what he's been charged with.

 

I think he should be eligible for employment, and I would be OK if we hired him, assuming we had an open spot.

 

Lots of history of rich men figuring out a way for their WAGs to recant on abuse claims.   If it's just a big misunderstanding then it's tough to explain why she called 911 in the first place and why the police affidavit "lists several injuries to the woman: bite mark to the right forearm, abrasion to the right eyebrow, abrasion to the left leg from the knee to the foot, and a cut to the left thumb with dried blood." Also tough to call something self-defense if the fiancé went to another room after breaking Beard's glasses, and he decided to follow her there.  https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2022/12/24/texas-men-basketball-coach-chris-beard-accuser-says-he-may-have-acted-self-defense/69754716007/

 

This seems like the sort of situation where as an AD you want to see Beard 2-3 years removed from the incident with no further issues.  If this turns out to be a one-time thing, and the fiancé sticks with her current story that she initiated the domestic violence before he escalated it, then Beard probably gets another shot at employment down the road.  But with Nebraska looking like we are going to be searching for a new coach in April, I don't see how his name can be on Trev's big board.  

[millerhusker]

27 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

 

Lots of history of rich men figuring out a way for their WAGs to recant on abuse claims.  

Yep. A public statement like that happens like clockwork after a high profile incident of this nature. Very predictable. 

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

Yep. A public statement like that happens like clockwork after a high profile incident of this nature. Very predictable. 

 

But it is what it is. There's no reasonable way that I know of to separate out the ones where the guy is guilty and the girlfriend is recanting because she doesn't want the repercussions of him getting in trouble vs. where he's not guilty and she just exaggerated things when she called the cops.

 

If you think he's guilty and that he therefore shouldn't be employable now, the 2-3 years where he would hypothetically sit out shouldn't change your view and you should still consider him to be radioactive waste 2-3 years from now.

 

Does he have any prior history of domestic violence or protection orders? If he did, I assume we'd have heard about it by now. And then you'd maybe presume, OK, well, looks like he did it again. But if he doesn't have any such history, why should this one phone call to the cops where she now says it's been overblown (or whatever she's saying) end his employability?

[Cazzie22]

I think Chris Beard is a fantastic basketball coach.  IF he is cleared then he could be considered a potential candidate.  However, there isn’t an opening and I really don’t anticipate one at Lincoln this year.

[Norm Peterson]

14 minutes ago, Cazzie22 said:

I think Chris Beard is a fantastic basketball coach.  IF he is cleared then he could be considered a potential candidate.  However, there isn’t an opening and I really don’t anticipate one at Lincoln this year.

 

If, hypothetically, there was an opening, would you want Trev Alberts to consider him?

[millerhusker]

22 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

But it is what it is. There's no reasonable way that I know of to separate out the ones where the guy is guilty and the girlfriend is recanting because she doesn't want the repercussions of him getting in trouble vs. where he's not guilty and she just exaggerated things when she called the cops.

 

If you think he's guilty and that he therefore shouldn't be employable now, the 2-3 years where he would hypothetically sit out shouldn't change your view and you should still consider him to be radioactive waste 2-3 years from now.

 

Does he have any prior history of domestic violence or protection orders? If he did, I assume we'd have heard about it by now. And then you'd maybe presume, OK, well, looks like he did it again. But if he doesn't have any such history, why should this one phone call to the cops where she now says it's been overblown (or whatever she's saying) end his employability?

I don’t disagree with you. I think he will get a job again somewhere eventually. 

[Cazzie22]

7 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

If, hypothetically, there was an opening, would you want Trev Alberts to consider him?

Sure, if the incident is cleared in a satisfactory manner.  

[hugh42]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

But if he doesn't have any such history, why should this one phone call to the cops where she now says it's been overblown (or whatever she's saying) end his employability?

 

Texas fired him with cause so apparently they felt there was enough evidence against Beard to do so. Good coach or not.

[uneblinstu]

Let's say Beard is cleared of any wrong doing. LEt's also say there's an opening this year or next at NU. Let's also say Trev is still the AD. I don't see Beard fitting the criteria he laid out when hiring the football coach, which I would expect to be similar to what he'd look for in hiring a basketball one. I don't think Beard will be a serious candidate here in the near future. Probably ever.

[cipsucks]

Norm, with the recent slew of down votes you've received, you're either politically incorrect or Kidney hacked your account. 

[cipsucks]

1 hour ago, hugh42 said:

 

Texas fired him with cause so apparently they felt there was enough evidence against Beard to do so. Good coach or not.

 

Not in today's political climate.  Especially in Austin, Texas. They'd fire him and dare him to sue.  I have no idea what happened, but the woke culture has decided innocent until proven guilty does not apply anymore. 

[Huskerpapa]

It is sometimes difficult to measure the correct responses and/or feelings in today's environment.   For example, does the belief of innocent until proven guilty still exist?  Does it exist for all alleged crimes, or just certain crimes?  I sort of believe that today, one is guilty until it is proven that you are innocent.  As a result, the allegation will stain a person with the figurative Scarlet letter.  Shoot, as soon as it hits social media (which is immediately) people take sides with rigid opinions. 

If what Beard is alleged to have done is true, it is reprehensible and he should not be allowed to lead a basketball team again.  If he is innocent...well heck, a significant number of people will still ostracize him.

It is a conundrum, with no easy answer.   A great reputation can take years earn, but seconds to be destroyed.   

Bottom line, whether innocent or guilty, Chris Beard could never work at Nebraska.  BUT, Mickey Joseph could, IF, he would be found innocent.   WHY, because he is a "Nebraskan" who has earned our trust.

I am not sure if this makes sense or not, but in my disintegrating mind, it kind of does.

 

[OmahaHusker]

He may be cleared, but no Power 6 program is going to touch him with a 10’ pole anyway. The point is moot. The issue is you put yourself in a bad enough situation that can tarnish your reputation when you shouldn’t have. And that’s reason enough for many universities when they’re offering to pay you millions. 

[Handy Johnson]

The manner in which his Wife defended him makes me think he’s even MORE likely to have put his hands on her not less. He’s never ever, ever coming here to Coach. 

[Norm Peterson]

On 1/17/2023 at 5:03 PM, cipsucks said:

Norm, with the recent slew of down votes you've received, you're either politically incorrect or Kidney hacked your account. 

 

It's OK. I think I have the most down votes on this website.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Norm Peterson

[jimmykc]

I thought kidney had retired that trophy.

[49r]

43 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

It's OK. I think I have the most down votes on this website.

 

You may be correct.  A dubious distinction, but a distinction nonetheless:

 

https://huskerhoopscentral.com/profile/121-norm-peterson/reputation/

[Norm Peterson]

3 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

You may be correct.  A dubious distinction, but a distinction nonetheless:

 

https://huskerhoopscentral.com/profile/121-norm-peterson/reputation/

 

I consider it a badge of honor. Like 80% of my downvotes come from two accounts who, themselves, almost never post.

[Norm Peterson]

Everyone who thinks we should have signed Keontae Johnson but wouldn't touch Chis Beard, please exit to the left where a nice lady is waiting to give you a shot of Thorazine.

 

Florida's Keyontae Johnson Investigated by Police in Alleged Sexual Assault | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

[Art Vandalay]

11 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

Everyone who thinks we should have signed Keontae Johnson but wouldn't touch Chis Beard, please exit to the left where a nice lady is waiting to give you a shot of Thorazine.

 

Florida's Keyontae Johnson Investigated by Police in Alleged Sexual Assault | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

If the police investigated, found evidence to support the accusation and arrested him then it would be the same and I would agree he is a no go. Surely you see the difference.

 

Even just an accusation is a red flag for me though. Who knows maybe it did play a part in our decision.

[Norm Peterson]

3 minutes ago, Art Vandalay said:

If the police investigated, found evidence to support the accusation and arrested him then it would be the same and I would agree he is a no go. Surely you see the difference.

 

Even just an accusation is a red flag for me though. Who knows maybe it did play a part in our decision.

 

You bald-faced hypocrite.

 

A woman made an accusation against Keontae Johnson for sexually assaulting her. She never recanted. He admitted having sex with her. He claims it was consensual. Witnesses say she was so drunk she was incoherent. She denies consenting.

 

Chris Beard's fiance denies he tried to strangle her and says she told cops that the night he was arrested.

 

Surely you see the difference.

[hhcmatt]

20 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

Everyone who thinks we should have signed Keontae Johnson but wouldn't touch Chis Beard, please exit to the left where a nice lady is waiting to give you a shot of Thorazine.

 

Florida's Keyontae Johnson Investigated by Police in Alleged Sexual Assault | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

 

Please don't make disingenuous posts in random topics to try and win points in some other topic, please and thanks

 

https://www.alligator.org/article/2022/07/keyontae-johnson-investigation-halted 

[Norm Peterson]

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

Please don't make disingenuous posts in random topics to try and win points in some other topic, please and thanks

 

https://www.alligator.org/article/2022/07/keyontae-johnson-investigation-halted 

 

OK so you think it's wrong to expect people to be consistent across threads? OK.

[Norm Peterson]

2 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Please don't make disingenuous posts in random topics to try and win points in some other topic, please and thanks

 

https://www.alligator.org/article/2022/07/keyontae-johnson-investigation-halted 

 

From a different source:

 

The alleged assault occurred at an off-campus apartment Feb. 26. Johnson's accuser had reportedly been drinking hours before the party and during it. She contacted police Feb. 28 after undergoing a sexual assault exam.

 

Earlier this month, Gainesville police listened in on a phone call between Johnson and his accuser. The Florida basketball player said he had unprotected sex with the woman after she was intoxicated, according to Legacy-Cole. He said during the call that he had asked for her consent.

 

Two witnesses described the woman accusing Johnson of sexual assault as "heavily intoxicated" and "not making any sense" at the time the alleged assault occurred, according to police.