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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

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Well, since Sam McKewon also posts on here on an infrequent basis, I'd imagine the info would get back to him.

 

 

The morning crew on 1620 (Gary Sharp & Damon Benning) phrased the discussion differently, what if Ricky Krewlow had been 'N' instead of Clinked, how'd that change the fortunes of Nebrasketball. Interesting thought.... I'd imagine the Huskers would be much better with a 49% three-point shooter in their arsenal.

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I think I will tweet can an Nebraskan with a straight face say that Sam McKewon is not a Creighton Hack. I have gotten into with him before on tweeter and it wasn't even fun because he thinks to much of himself to argue with the stupid unwashed, uneducated unwrittingable like me.;)

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It's not a good BJ roster. Not sure if he's making the point that overall our roster isn't that great and we overachieved last year or if we're underachieving this year as one could make both arguments. I suppose asking it that way gets more hot takes. Here was mine:

 

I didn't think Kreklow would be very impactful if he landed with us...maybe a 10-15 minute guy but with his shooting touch he probably plays a pretty key role for us. Very well might have won a few more games with him. He also very well might have limited Tarin Smith's minutes and growth.

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I didn't think Kreklow would be very impactful if he landed with us...maybe a 10-15 minute guy but with his shooting touch he probably plays a pretty key role for us. Very well might have won a few more games with him. He also very well might have limited Tarin Smith's minutes and growth.

 

I don't believe Kreklow would've taken Tarin's minutes as much as Tai's and possibly Shavon's when he's shooting very poorly & the team is in need of a 3-ball shooter more than a slasher. It's intriguing to think about, especially if you want to drive yourself mad!

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I didn't think Kreklow would be very impactful if he landed with us...maybe a 10-15 minute guy but with his shooting touch he probably plays a pretty key role for us. Very well might have won a few more games with him. He also very well might have limited Tarin Smith's minutes and growth.

 

I don't believe Kreklow would've taken Tarin's minutes as much as Tai's and possibly Shavon's when he's shooting very poorly & the team is in need of a 3-ball shooter more than a slasher. It's intriguing to think about, especially if you want to drive yourself mad!

 

 

Kreklow also didn't get hot from 3 until conference play and more specifically the last several games. If people think we're just that close now then we should be pretty excited for next year.

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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I've written as much on Twitter all year. I think Creighton's more talented top to bottom, even if Nebraska has the two best players. I feel like Creighton should have a better record than it does. I feel like Tim Miles has done a pretty good coaching job this year given the injuries and the talent on hand. 

 

It's worth noting almost no one agrees with me on the talent issue and I'm one person with a thought.  

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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I've written as much on Twitter all year. I think Creighton's more talented top to bottom, even if Nebraska has the two best players. I feel like Creighton should have a better record than it does. I feel like Tim Miles has done a pretty good coaching job this year given the injuries and the talent on hand. 

 

It's worth noting almost no one agrees with me on the talent issue and I'm one person with a thought.  

 

 

Nebraska is more suited to the Big Ten than Creighton is to the BE. Who cares how they compare to each other at this point, the two teams played 2-1/2 months ago, and won't play again for 9-1/2 more months & their rosters will likely be different by then. It's a twitter firestorm that has no right answer, IMHO.

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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I've written as much on Twitter all year. I think Creighton's more talented top to bottom, even if Nebraska has the two best players. I feel like Creighton should have a better record than it does. I feel like Tim Miles has done a pretty good coaching job this year given the injuries and the talent on hand. 

 

It's worth noting almost no one agrees with me on the talent issue and I'm one person with a thought.  

 

Creighton has more talent, but should have a better record than it does.  And it should have a better record than it does, because it has more talent.

 

Hmmmmm.  The results certainly don't prove the premise.

 

Maybe Creighton doesn't have a better record than it does because it really doesn't have superior talent?

 

I'm not convinced that the Big East is really a better conference, either.

 

What they have that's better is they have some better shooters.  But, take away their walk-on, and they're going to look pretty pedestrian.

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First off, Sam's a Husker fan so he's not trying shill for Creighton. As for the talent debate, it's really pointless. Creighton has a better 1-10 roster, but they don't have a star. Norman Dale gave his "five men, one ball" speech and the team still struggled until Jimmy Chitwood returned. That's basketball. Both teams have talent deficiencies. Why are we talking about Creighton now anyway? for the love of god, let it go.

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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I've written as much on Twitter all year. I think Creighton's more talented top to bottom, even if Nebraska has the two best players. I feel like Creighton should have a better record than it does. I feel like Tim Miles has done a pretty good coaching job this year given the injuries and the talent on hand. 

 

It's worth noting almost no one agrees with me on the talent issue and I'm one person with a thought.  

 

Creighton has more talent, but should have a better record than it does.  And it should have a better record than it does, because it has more talent.

 

Hmmmmm.  The results certainly don't prove the premise.

 

Maybe Creighton doesn't have a better record than it does because it really doesn't have superior talent?

 

I'm not convinced that the Big East is really a better conference, either.

 

What they have that's better is they have some better shooters.  But, take away their walk-on, and they're going to look pretty pedestrian.

 

 

Sam has an inflated opinion of Creighton.  He told his twitter followers to watch out for Creighton because they were going to be a lot better than what people give them credit for.  Only to watch them fall flat on their face this year.  Sam also said this..."Creighton has a better-assembled, deeper team than Nebraska.  If nothing else, Mac is a better "GM" than Miles over the last three years."  Had a great laugh at that one. 

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First off, Sam's a Husker fan so he's not trying shill for Creighton. As for the talent debate, it's really pointless. Creighton has a better 1-10 roster, but they don't have a star. 

 

Pretty much. Watching that game last night instead of watching Kansas vs West Virginia? Come on man.

 

Also, they're a completely different incomplete team.

We're a team with slash-scoring ability with dreadful 3pt shooting and shoddy interior play

They're an average shooting shooting team attempting to play defense

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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I've written as much on Twitter all year. I think Creighton's more talented top to bottom, even if Nebraska has the two best players. I feel like Creighton should have a better record than it does. I feel like Tim Miles has done a pretty good coaching job this year given the injuries and the talent on hand. 

 

It's worth noting almost no one agrees with me on the talent issue and I'm one person with a thought.  

 

 

Without regard to the references to Creighton, I think Sam summarizes a debate that has gone on here for a couple of months:  Are we a talented team that has underachieved due to questionable coaching, injuries, and perhaps even bad chemistry, or are we a team that after Petteway and Shields just doesn't have much?   I have come down on the latter viewpoint, with about as much agreement as Sam is getting. 

 

In my view, we are a pretty easy team to defend, since we typically have 2 or 3 guys on the floor who don't need to be guarded, and we don't have a true play-making point guard.  We are an extremely poor shooting team (again, in my view, because we have bad shooters, vs. decent shooters who are in a slump or are mentally out of whack).    We are a poor rebounding team, partially due to Leslee's injury, and partially due to limited minutes for Moses due to an utter lack of offensive skills and poor footwork which leads to many fouls per minute.     Due to great defense and decent game planning, we have won some games and been in many others.  So basically I agree with Sam.

 

With hindsight, the first two November signing periods for Miles look pretty brutal in terms of current production:  Fuller, Hawkins and Webster, and then Hammonds.  So it makes sense that, as aptly stated by CWG in another thread, "our cake is missing a few ingredients".    Here's to the third November class, and onwards and upwards in recruiting better talent with which to compete in this league.  And in December against that team 60 miles up the road. 

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Creighton has more talent, but should have a better record than it does.  And it should have a better record than it does, because it has more talent.

 

Hmmmmm.  The results certainly don't prove the premise.

 

Maybe Creighton doesn't have a better record than it does because it really doesn't have superior talent?

 

I'm not convinced that the Big East is really a better conference, either.

 

What they have that's better is they have some better shooters.  But, take away their walk-on, and they're going to look pretty pedestrian.

 

 

The Big East is better because they have less middle tier teams and less bad teams, not necessarily because they have better teams.

 

Those guys up the road talk about the Rick Johnson era because they've been used to winning in the MVC for a long time. What they should be talking about is the Collier/Sadler era or the McDermott Iowa St era because trying to find guys who are skilled and athletic enough to play in a high level conference is tough.

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Creighton has more talent, but should have a better record than it does.  And it should have a better record than it does, because it has more talent.

 

Hmmmmm.  The results certainly don't prove the premise.

 

Maybe Creighton doesn't have a better record than it does because it really doesn't have superior talent?

 

I'm not convinced that the Big East is really a better conference, either.

 

What they have that's better is they have some better shooters.  But, take away their walk-on, and they're going to look pretty pedestrian.

 

 

The Big East is better because they have less middle tier teams and less bad teams, not necessarily because they have better teams.

 

Those guys up the road talk about the Rick Johnson era because they've been used to winning in the MVC for a long time. What they should be talking about is the Collier/Sadler era or the McDermott Iowa St era because trying to find guys who are skilled and athletic enough to play in a high level conference is tough.

 

McDermott had talent at Iowa State. More than enough. 

 

Talent acquisition has never been a particular issue for him. He can recruit. 

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Creighton has more talent, but should have a better record than it does.  And it should have a better record than it does, because it has more talent.

 

Hmmmmm.  The results certainly don't prove the premise.

 

Maybe Creighton doesn't have a better record than it does because it really doesn't have superior talent?

 

I'm not convinced that the Big East is really a better conference, either.

 

What they have that's better is they have some better shooters.  But, take away their walk-on, and they're going to look pretty pedestrian.

 

 

The Big East is better because they have less middle tier teams and less bad teams, not necessarily because they have better teams.

 

Those guys up the road talk about the Rick Johnson era because they've been used to winning in the MVC for a long time. What they should be talking about is the Collier/Sadler era or the McDermott Iowa St era because trying to find guys who are skilled and athletic enough to play in a high level conference is tough.

 

McDermott had talent at Iowa State. More than enough. 

 

Talent acquisition has never been a particular issue for him. He can recruit. 

 

How did they do this year with recruits who had offers from other power basketball conferences?

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I could not care less if you answer Sam on twitter...but perhaps it is of interest to respond here...especially since we lost in our building. I am still dumbfounded and extremely dissappointed.

 

This is much to often a conversation in Omaha. I am tired of saying, "Well yeah, but not next year."

 

And I really do believe that.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I've written as much on Twitter all year. I think Creighton's more talented top to bottom, even if Nebraska has the two best players. I feel like Creighton should have a better record than it does. I feel like Tim Miles has done a pretty good coaching job this year given the injuries and the talent on hand. 

 

It's worth noting almost no one agrees with me on the talent issue and I'm one person with a thought.  

 

Creighton has more talent, but should have a better record than it does.  And it should have a better record than it does, because it has more talent.

 

Hmmmmm.  The results certainly don't prove the premise.

 

Maybe Creighton doesn't have a better record than it does because it really doesn't have superior talent?

 

I'm not convinced that the Big East is really a better conference, either.

 

What they have that's better is they have some better shooters.  But, take away their walk-on, and they're going to look pretty pedestrian.

 

 

Sam has an inflated opinion of Creighton.  He told his twitter followers to watch out for Creighton because they were going to be a lot better than what people give them credit for.  Only to watch them fall flat on their face this year.  Sam also said this..."Creighton has a better-assembled, deeper team than Nebraska.  If nothing else, Mac is a better "GM" than Miles over the last three years."  Had a great laugh at that one. 

 

Again: I think it's true. I think Creighton has underachieved, and I do think McDermott has assembled, over the last several years, a more complete roster of talent. 

 

And I will say, again: Neither Nebraska nor Creighton fan agrees. I know why Creighton fan doesn't -- because it doesn't fit the preferred narrative of Creighton hoops, which is, now that Doug's gone, it's going to take several seasons to get "Big East talent," whatever that is. 

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Sam -- Kudos to you for being on this board with us. Last night your question posed was about *talent* which is very gray in basketball if you ask me. Basketball is one of those sports -- because there are only five on the floor -- where IQ sometimes trumps talent.

 

The Jays are basically playing seven guys: Hegner, Groselle, Chatman, Krecklow, Milliken, Artino and Brooks. Zierden (I believe he is injured?) would be a counter as well. Nebraska counters with: Shields, Petteway, Pitchford, Parker, Rivers, Abraham/Smith, Webster and T. Smith. I am looking at two teams there, who should try to put together an all-star team. Nebraska would crave Krecklow and a better big (Hegner, Groselle or Artino are probalby all better than what we had, but probably not better than a healthy Leslee). I think Creighton would love Shields or Petteway. I'm not really sure what the point of the question is to be honest.

 

Both teams have talent, but are incomplete teams. In basketball that doens't really get you anywhere. Both are proving the point.

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