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uneblinstu

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It's a lot deeper than just bad character problems.  Omaha's facing some serious issues related to that article on the murder rates that have been steadily growing for he past several years. There's a lot of good people doing hard, difficult work confronting this issue, but there's a lot of work left to do. Calling it a character issue doesn't really do it justice. It's a lot deeper than that.

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Wish Dev luck and an epiphany about how best to navigate in the world. That's a young brother who needs better friends. Someone to whisper in his ear from time to time that he might want to consider t

Milk
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Who cares about what their fans think, its not even their situation.  I don't understand the obsession sometimes with their program or their fans opinions. 

hhcmatt
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Put aside who you might think made a decision here.   Biggs missed 4 games due to disciplinarian reasons. Can someone point me to one single person in this thread who thought that Deverell  should

Norm Peterson

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It's a lot deeper than just bad character problems.  Omaha's facing some serious issues related to that article on the murder rates that have been steadily growing for he past several years. There's a lot of good people doing hard, difficult work confronting this issue, but there's a lot of work left to do. Calling it a character issue doesn't really do it justice. It's a lot deeper than that.

Nebraska's football program isn't offering Metro Omaha kids because of the murder rate there?

 

Biggs was talking about his entourage.  The people in his circle of influence and having problems with them.  And Benning said by the time Biggs brought it to the attention of whoever, that it was too late, they were already done with him.

 

And those same issues, from what Benning said in a pretty straightforward way, also cause the football coaches to be reluctant to offer some of the players from that area.  As well as the guys from across the river at Iowa Western.

 

The reluctance doesn't stem from the high murder rate.  But the high murder rate might stem from the same issue that makes the coaches at Nebraska, according to Damon Benning, a little leery about bringing those kids down here.

 

And, let's just throw it out there.  If you piece it all together, aren't they basically saying there's a bunch of street gang involvement in the athletics up in that area?  Basically?  And we don't want to bring that down here because of the problems it causes, most recently revealed in the example of Deverell Biggs?  Am I warm?

Vinny

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So, we have Miles directly saying it was his call and not the AD's call.

 

And we have inferences being made from a radio show conversation between Damon Benning and the guy who got booted.

 

So, there's a controversy about Shawn Eichorst because why?

It came across as more than an inference by Benning if what he said Biggs told him was accurate

 

I can barely connect all these dots, but let me try. Biggs told Benning something.  If what Benning was told by Biggs was accurate, it led to Benning making an inference.  To you, this inference by Benning came across as more than an inference?

 

Well shit, I hate this Eichorst guy now too.  

underoop

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And, let's just throw it out there.  If you piece it all together, aren't they basically saying there's a bunch of street gang involvement in the athletics up in that area?  Basically?  And we don't want to bring that down here because of the problems it causes, most recently revealed in the example of Deverell Biggs?  Am I warm?

 

I think this is very accurate. It may even be revealed in Akoy's issues in Memphis, but Akoy could have been in worse shape if he were only an hr from home. Hopefully his brother can stay out of that trouble.

 

I don't think there is any controversy here. 

uneblinstu

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It's a lot deeper than just bad character problems.  Omaha's facing some serious issues related to that article on the murder rates that have been steadily growing for he past several years. There's a lot of good people doing hard, difficult work confronting this issue, but there's a lot of work left to do. Calling it a character issue doesn't really do it justice. It's a lot deeper than that.

Nebraska's football program isn't offering Metro Omaha kids because of the murder rate there?

 

Biggs was talking about his entourage.  The people in his circle of influence and having problems with them.  And Benning said by the time Biggs brought it to the attention of whoever, that it was too late, they were already done with him.

 

And those same issues, from what Benning said in a pretty straightforward way, also cause the football coaches to be reluctant to offer some of the players from that area.  As well as the guys from across the river at Iowa Western.

 

The reluctance doesn't stem from the high murder rate.  But the high murder rate might stem from the same issue that makes the coaches at Nebraska, according to Damon Benning, a little leery about bringing those kids down here.

 

And, let's just throw it out there.  If you piece it all together, aren't they basically saying there's a bunch of street gang involvement in the athletics up in that area?  Basically?  And we don't want to bring that down here because of the problems it causes, most recently revealed in the example of Deverell Biggs?  Am I warm?

 

Yeah, I agree with a lot of that. The high murder rate stems from deeper problems in North Omaha. There are more issues at play here than not wanting those issues to spread to Lincoln, though that is likely part of it. It's too simple to say that it's the gang violence that's keeping those kids from getting offers. The bigger issue is that the gang violence (and other issues) are keeping the kids from getting to school, much less qualifying in the first place. It's not street gang violence involved with the athletics, it's gang violence in the community at large. That pulls in people from all areas, not just athletics.

jimmykc

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This whole thread makes it sound like Omaha is a lot worse situation than NYC, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Miami or any other urban environment in the USA. Why doesn't someone from Omaha chime in with some relevant info.from personal observation. Otherwise we should assume that this is an individual problem and not shift the blame to "Omaha". If it is as bad as some imply, we should limit our recruiting to farmboys and leave the cities to bolder programs.

Cousin Mose

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This whole thread makes it sound like Omaha is a lot worse situation than NYC, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Miami or any other urban environment in the USA. Why doesn't someone from Omaha chime in with some relevant info.from personal observation. Otherwise we should assume that this is an individual problem and not shift the blame to "Omaha". If it is as bad as some imply, we should limit our recruiting to farmboys and leave the cities to bolder programs.

 

Josh Jones was a member of the Bluejays for five years without a single problem and Devin Brooks out of Iowa Western has not shown any indication of being an issue.

AuroranHusker

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This whole thread makes it sound like Omaha is a lot worse situation than NYC, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Miami or any other urban environment in the USA. Why doesn't someone from Omaha chime in with some relevant info.from personal observation. Otherwise we should assume that this is an individual problem and not shift the blame to "Omaha". If it is as bad as some imply, we should limit our recruiting to farmboys and leave the cities to bolder programs.

Case-by-case basis, clearly. Hopefully NU continues to develop relationships with coaches & players throughout the Omaha metro area, and I suspect that Miles & Co. will be in a favorable position to vet situations better going forward.

HuskerFever

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This whole thread makes it sound like Omaha is a lot worse situation than NYC, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Miami or any other urban environment in the USA. Why doesn't someone from Omaha chime in with some relevant info.from personal observation. Otherwise we should assume that this is an individual problem and not shift the blame to "Omaha". If it is as bad as some imply, we should limit our recruiting to farmboys and leave the cities to bolder programs.

 

That's the danger of looking at things on a "per-capita" basis.

Norm Peterson

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Hey, Damon Benning was the one who stirred up the whole hornet's nest.  I'll connect the dots:

 

1.  Biggs' problems that lead to his downfall were the people he couldn't get away from up there in Omaha.

2.  By the time he brought this problem to the staff's attention, it was too late for him, they were tired of his stuff, and dismissed him.

3.  This same problem crosses over into football where our coaching staff isn't recruiting kids from Omaha (whom you'd apparently think would be getting offers?) ...

4.  ... because of the type of thing that happened with Biggs.

 

This all came from Benning's discussion with Sharp.  

 

So, what's he talking about if not a gang problem infecting certain athletes who hail from Omaha?

roscoe

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Heard rumor tonight that Miles really lit into team following loss at Penn St. and Biggs responded in anot so polite manner back to Miles. At which point Miles informed Biggs would no longer be part of team.

nuled2dance

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Rumors are sad to see it is pretty cut and dry. Amazing what most of you or others in the media/social networks out out there. The program made the right decision and I wish Biggs the best but eichorst was not involved.

Tim made this decision but it was not all on his own.

bkamler

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I wish Biggs the best and I hope he can learn something very important from this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, sometimes even your childhood friends must be left behind if their behavior could or does negatively impact your life. When we were kids and we ran in groups at dances, at parties, cruising, etc. the lowest common denominator in our group always tried to lead us into doing hurtful, stupid or dangerous, illegal things that we would not have done on our own...but sometimes peer pressure brought us down to the mob mentality.

 

Biggs played basketball at Omaha Central and I heard from a good source that their most recent state championship team had a 1.5 GPA and that this was the norm for OC teams in the past. However, these kids were still eligible under Omaha Public School guidelines (now being changed). As I understand it, the present rule says that an athlete only needs to have four D's out of his or her seven classes in the "previous semester" to be eligible. So, four D's and three F's in the previous semester and you are good to go even if you have seven F's going during the semester of competition!

 

If my math is correct, this means that a 0.57 GPA renders you eligible to play sports! No wonder, if memory serves me correctly, only one of the four or five seniors on the most recent state championship team signed with a four year D1 college undoubtedly due to grades. Education has been dumbed down so far that a 0.57 GPA is incomprehensible. By allowing this to be the standard or lack of one, sends kids a powerfully wrong message...studying and getting decent grades is not important and has no value!

 

It is no wonder that Biggs had to go the JC route and it is unfortunately not hard to understand that he is unable to follow minimum standards to remain on the team because his high school experience indicated that his basketball talent would overcome any deficiencies he might have or he was allowed to have.

 

I truly hope the light bulb goes on for him and that he graduates this spring and that he can go on to play at a college somewhere far away from Omaha and his homies. Hopefully, he will surround himself with hard working teammates who will help him apply himself to be accountable on and off the court. Good luck Dev!

Ruck Me Funning

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This Eichorst stuff comes from some goober over on Husker Power Hour who claims he's a big booster.  The guy, I'm told, is an idiot.

Your info on him is incorrect. He's about as knowledgeable as a booster as it gets and while opinionated, he doesn't make up information. I would say better than 95% of the info Harold posts becomes public almost exactly as he states it, and often days or weeks before we read about. He was on Damon's show a month ago when they did the round table and he's also the force that helped organize the air fleet for the coaches about two years ago. So he's not some make believe wana be like you see at the RSS. There is a growing list of things SE is doing that are making him unpopular because they are hurting our athletic department and it's two major sports. Harold has been one of several folks over there discussing those things.
hhcmatt

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Heard rumor tonight that Miles really lit into team following loss at Penn St. and Biggs responded in anot so polite manner back to Miles. At which point Miles informed Biggs would no longer be part of team.

 

Here is the front runner in the basketball version of "Come up with a reason for Taylor Martinez's foot injury"

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