New PF/C offer 6'9'' David Wacker out of TX

[ajb5856]

Just my opinion but I'd rather have athleticism in a 2nd commitment regardless of whether they are tabbed as a center, power forward or small forward. But I'm not the coach.

[Nebrasketballer]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both 6'7"-6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I believe that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

[TheKamdyMan]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both shorter than 6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I beliee that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

Big rules state you can only over sign by one.

[ajb5856]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both shorter than 6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I beliee that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

I was just going to ask this same question about what is meant when Miles says we want 2 "bigs". I agree with your analysis that it probably doesn't mean 2 players tabbed as centers. Tory Miller, a bruising power forward definitely qualifies as a big in my book. I can't imagine that Wacker's offer is commitable at this point. He was at least the third, maybe fourth prospect in line out of our offers at center.

[kldm64]

I hope they have Wacker on a contingency plan in telling him that they have others ahead of him in the pecking order.  I'll be disappointed if he commits and we lose out on Gilmore or Bolden due to not enough spots open. 

[Nebrasketballer]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both shorter than 6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I beliee that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

Big rules state you can only over sign by one.

Yeah, I guess i didnt mean oversign by 2. I guess what I meant by "oversign by 2 scholarships" was sign 2 more players than the 2 open scholarships that Nebraska has available right now. Maybe a player that is currently on scholarship will be encouraged to pursue other options before national signing day, which would free up a scholarship. That would mean that Nebraska could sign 4 players in the 2014 class (which is 2 players more than scholarships currently available), but they would only technically be over signing by 1.

[ajb5856]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both shorter than 6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I beliee that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

Big rules state you can only over sign by one.

Yeah, I guess i didnt mean oversign by 2. I guess what I meant by "oversign by 2 scholarships" was sign 2 more players than the 2 open scholarships that Nebraska has available right now. Maybe a player that is currently on scholarship will be encouraged to pursue other options before national signing day, which would free up a scholarship. That would mean that Nebraska could sign 4 players in the 2014 class (which is 2 players more than scholarships currently available), but they would only technically be over signing by 1.

Confused. If you have 2 scholarships available, and you sign 4, how is that not considered over signing by 2? You still have to make 2 guys transfer eventually.

[Nebrasketballer]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both shorter than 6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I beliee that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

I was just going to ask this same question about what is meant when Miles says we want 2 "bigs". I agree with your analysis that it probably doesn't mean 2 players tabbed as centers. Tory Miller, a bruising power forward definitely qualifies as a big in my book. I can't imagine that Wacker's offer is commitable at this point. He was at least the third, maybe fourth prospect in line out of our offers at center.

Yeah, I think that "bigs" just meant that Nebraska isn't looking to sign a PG or SG in this class.

[ajb5856]

Sorry, Nebrasketballer. I re-read your post and I think i understand what you mean now. I think it's pretty unlikely that a current scholarship player quits before signing day. I just don't see the advantage to having an experienced player (despite their talent level) who has practiced with the team all summer quit right at the start of the season. But I see what you're saying. That would give us 3 available scholarships so that signing 4 would only be over by 1.

[Concrete]

If Miles views Wacker as a better prospect than Miller, I'm not going to second guess him.  Our coaches have earned the benefit of the doubt up to this point.  We should all be able to agree on that.

[ShortDust]

In my opinion, the best case scenario for the 2014 class is Gilmore + Hammond + Bolden. This would mean that Nebraska oversigns by 1 scholarship and let's the roster sort itself out. Tim Miles said that Nebraska is looking to use 2 scholarships on "big men", but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that Nebraska is going after 2 players that are 6'10", 230 lbs bruisers in the paint. I think that Gilmore, Hammond, and Bolden would all fit the description of what Miles was talking about when he said "big men". It is my understanding that Miles meant players 6'8" or taller that can play in the post to some degree. After all, I'm pretty sure Smith and Rivers are both shorter than 6'8" and both will see extensive playing time at the 4-Spot in the Tim Miles offense.

I beliee that Nebraska will sign Wacker if one of these 3 players doesn't end up at Nebraska. Another scenario would be if Nebraska was willing to oversign by 2 scholarships.

Big rules state you can only over sign by one.

Yeah, I guess i didnt mean oversign by 2. I guess what I meant by "oversign by 2 scholarships" was sign 2 more players than the 2 open scholarships that Nebraska has available right now. Maybe a player that is currently on scholarship will be encouraged to pursue other options before national signing day, which would free up a scholarship. That would mean that Nebraska could sign 4 players in the 2014 class (which is 2 players more than scholarships currently available), but they would only technically be over signing by 1.

Confused. If you have 2 scholarships available, and you sign 4, how is that not considered over signing by 2? You still have to make 2 guys transfer eventually.

Yea, I guess being able to oversign 1 would be okay, but I think there will be two to leave after this year as i believe they were borderline to last year. Just have to wait and see. I can see wacker committing on his visit and then Gilmore when he finally visits, which he should the same weekend IMO. Bolden would be and awesome pick up to add, but think he may be out of reach, even with the good relationship.

[Silverbacked1]

If Miles views Wacker as a better prospect than Miller, I'm not going to second guess him.  Our coaches have earned the benefit of the doubt up to this point.  We should all be able to agree on that.

This is always my view point.  We can say we want this kid or that kid, but in the end it is up to the coaches to see if they really fit here or not. 

 

I have great faith that they will sign who we really needs to be signed to make us the best team possible.

 

I hope that no one would be shown the door, however as someone who transfered from one school to another I would understand that.  And yes I know that sometimes the coach makes that choice for the player easier though certain "actions"

[Cookie Belcher]

I hope they have Wacker on a contingency plan in telling him that they have others ahead of him in the pecking order.  I'll be disappointed if he commits and we lose out on Gilmore or Bolden due to not enough spots open. 

Bolden hasn't even said anything publically about Nebraska to indicate we are a contender.  The article about him brought up an interesting connection, but it is just speculation.  I think he is going to be a guy who is out of our league.

 

Either way, we won't lose out on him due to not having a spot.  If he wanted to choose Nebraska (a gigantic if), he would have a spot.

[FredsSlacks]

I think it all depends what is going on with Sergej. I'm not sure why we bring in Wacker if Sergej is going to be here.

[Swan88]

On the matter of over-signing by one, here is information from a January 2008 article on the subject (bold face added for emphasis):

 

"Ohio State men's coach Thad Matta said he was one of the coaches who pushed the conference to allow oversigning in basketball. For the first time, with the recruiting classes announced in November, the Big Ten allowed its basketball teams to oversign by one player.  Matta said that was an important step in creating wiggle room for schools with players who may or may not leave for the NBA. Coaches must prepare for potential departures and need to oversign at times to do it. Matta, only half-jokingly, said he told superstar center Greg Oden, one of three OSU freshman who left for the NBA after last season, that he could come back for his sophomore season this year, but not for his junior year because his scholarship had already been given away.  "I was looking last year and thinking, 'I could get caught holding the bag here if you don't let me oversign,' " Matta said.  So the conference made a concession, as it had in football. For the players and the coaches, the flexibility of more recruits creates an edge."

[colhusker]

 

I hope they have Wacker on a contingency plan in telling him that they have others ahead of him in the pecking order.  I'll be disappointed if he commits and we lose out on Gilmore or Bolden due to not enough spots open. 

Bolden hasn't even said anything publically about Nebraska to indicate we are a contender.  The article about him brought up an interesting connection, but it is just speculation.  I think he is going to be a guy who is out of our league.

 

Either way, we won't lose out on him due to not having a spot.  If he wanted to choose Nebraska (a gigantic if), he would have a spot.

 

This is the attitude we need to change, understand why we have it but we must change it.

[ajb5856]

I hope they have Wacker on a contingency plan in telling him that they have others ahead of him in the pecking order. I'll be disappointed if he commits and we lose out on Gilmore or Bolden due to not enough spots open.

Bolden hasn't even said anything publically about Nebraska to indicate we are a contender. The article about him brought up an interesting connection, but it is just speculation. I think he is going to be a guy who is out of our league.

Either way, we won't lose out on him due to not having a spot. If he wanted to choose Nebraska (a gigantic if), he would have a spot.

Bolden hasn't said anything publicly that I'm aware of. He hasn't said publicly that Louisville is a contender and he hasn't said publicly that Michigan is a contender either. So, as of now, I'm not going to let these facts rule us out of the equation. He's not out of our league. He's not out of the equation just yet. Maybe when he finally does speak, and we get some more information, we will learn that Bolden isn't really looking to come here. Who knows? But for now we know that Nebraska has offered him a scholarship. We know that Harriman does have the connected with Bolden's father. And we know that Robin wrote an article with the title: "Huskers among leaders for Aussie standout Bolden". You don't pen that title without Nebraska at least being in the equation. For now.

[Nebrasketballer]

I hope they have Wacker on a contingency plan in telling him that they have others ahead of him in the pecking order. I'll be disappointed if he commits and we lose out on Gilmore or Bolden due to not enough spots open.

Bolden hasn't even said anything publically about Nebraska to indicate we are a contender. The article about him brought up an interesting connection, but it is just speculation. I think he is going to be a guy who is out of our league.

Either way, we won't lose out on him due to not having a spot. If he wanted to choose Nebraska (a gigantic if), he would have a spot.

Bolden hasn't said anything publicly that I'm aware of. He hasn't said publicly that Louisville is a contender and he hasn't said publicly that Michigan is a contender either. So, as of now, I'm not going to let these facts rule us out of the equation. He's not out of our league. He's not out of the equation just yet. Maybe when he finally does speak, and we get some more information, we will learn that Bolden isn't really looking to come here. Who knows? But for now we know that Nebraska has offered him a scholarship. We know that Harriman does have the connected with Bolden's father. And we know that Robin wrote an article with the title: "Huskers among leaders for Aussie standout Bolden". You don't pen that title without Nebraska at least being in the equation. For now.

Great post ajb5856

[uneblinstu]

[faqlsr]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XHNh4IWUjnQ

I "think" #33 in white is David Wacker....I like his game and would be a solid PF.

[The Coach]

Reminds me of a prototypical Wisconsin big man. Kind of awkward and not that athletic, but works his tail off and does the dirty work. 

 

I will say that it didn't seem like he had much talent around him in that video. He'd establish good position in the post but his guards couldn't get him the ball.

[The Coach]

[doc1394]

Just committed to Boise State according to Robin Washit

[Silverbacked1]

Comes out right after White to Georgetown.

So does this mean anything?

[Hooper]

Most of us surmised that Wacker did not have a committable offer from Nebraska, so he probably decided he'd take the sure thing instead of waiting around for other prospects to turn us down so that we'd take his commitment. I don't blame him.