Norm Peterson Posted July 7, 2023 Report Posted July 7, 2023 1. Anyone going? Fans I'm talking about. The AD put together a package I think about 3,000 bucks to join the team and go everywhere they go. Anyone jump at that one? For the record, I did not. 2. Nice to see Brice Williams made it to town, but he's going to be behind everyone else on being in basketball shape and picking up the offense and defense prior to Spain trip. Hopefully we get some sense of what he can do. 3. Sounds like Keisei is doing Japanese Olympic stuff while Rienk is doing Dutch basketball stuff and won't be making the trip. Does anyone know of anyone else, though, who won't be going or won't be available? Sounds like Juwan Gary is either 100% or close. Allick had some kind of toe surgery? Anyone know his status? Anyone else in the "out" or "doubtful" category? 4. Do all the players have all their passports together this time? Quote
49r Posted July 7, 2023 Report Posted July 7, 2023 I remember 4 years ago (or was it 5?) when they went on the Italy trip I was so hyped and watched all the games and getting excited... ...and now it's a big yawn for me. I might watch the games if they are streamed but won't be going out of my way to do so. Actually traveling to watch this isn't even remotely on the radar for me. So, the short of the long here @Norm Peterson is no. I will not be going. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted July 7, 2023 Author Report Posted July 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, 49r said: I remember 4 years ago (or was it 5?) when they went on the Italy trip I was so hyped and watched all the games and getting excited... ...and now it's a big yawn for me. I might watch the games if they are streamed but won't be going out of my way to do so. Actually traveling to watch this isn't even remotely on the radar for me. So, the short of the long here @Norm Peterson is no. I will not be going. But it's like a week in Barcelona, Valencia and Madrid. Watch a few Husker games. Eat some paella. And you don't even have to go to practice. HuscurAdam and Cazzie22 1 1 Quote
49r Posted July 7, 2023 Report Posted July 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said: But it's like a week in Barcelona, Valencia and Madrid. Watch a few Husker games. Eat some paella. And you don't even have to go to practice. Yes, the Spain trip portion sounds fantastic. But I could do that any time and I could even pick other European countries to visit too! Quote
cipsucks Posted July 7, 2023 Report Posted July 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: 3. Sounds like Keisei is doing Japanese Olympic stuff while Rienk is doing Dutch basketball stuff and won't be making the trip. Dutch government just collapsed today. As far as I know, Japan is still stable... Quote
throwback Posted July 7, 2023 Report Posted July 7, 2023 I thought a few weeks ago Fred said all three bigs - Keita, Gary & Allick - were still rehabbing and may or may not be ready for game action by then. Consequently, we may not have much size available for the games. Worst case scenario we might have 6 scholarship guys cleared to play / in attendance - or 7 with Sam, who I assume will be getting a scholarship at some point with us only being at 11. For their sakes, I'm glad Tominaga and Mast can play with their nat'l teams this summer, but the short roster really puts a damper on the trip for the benefit of NU. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 6:44 PM, throwback said: I thought a few weeks ago Fred said all three bigs - Keita, Gary & Allick - were still rehabbing and may or may not be ready for game action by then. Consequently, we may not have much size available for the games. Worst case scenario we might have 6 scholarship guys cleared to play / in attendance - or 7 with Sam, who I assume will be getting a scholarship at some point with us only being at 11. For their sakes, I'm glad Tominaga and Mast can play with their nat'l teams this summer, but the short roster really puts a damper on the trip for the benefit of NU. OK, with that in mind, I'm working out a starting lineup for Spain. Check this: PG Ahron Ulis SG Jamarques Lawrence SF Ramel Lloyd, Jr. PF Brice Williams C CJ Wilcher OK, tell me ONE THING Rienk Mast has that CJ Wilcher lacks. OK, besides that. Well, I mean, OK, but other than that, too. Listen, CJ has a big body. He can DO this! He'll go into the season as our heir-apparent at Center. Kinda by default, but, y'know, still ... Go CJ!!! throwback 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: PG Ahron Ulis SG Jamarques Lawrence SF Ramel Lloyd, Jr. PF Brice Williams C CJ Wilcher Half Mast lineup Handy Johnson 1 Quote
AuroranHusker Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: OK, with that in mind, I'm working out a starting lineup for Spain. Check this: PG Ahron Ulis SG Jamarques Lawrence SF Ramel Lloyd, Jr. PF Brice Williams C CJ Wilcher OK, tell me ONE THING Rienk Mast has that CJ Wilcher lacks. OK, besides that. Well, I mean, OK, but other than that, too. Listen, CJ has a big body. He can DO this! He'll go into the season as our heir-apparent at Center. Kinda by default, but, y'know, still ... Go CJ!!! No Mas(t). hhcmatt and Handy Johnson 1 1 Quote
hskr4life Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 22 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: OK, with that in mind, I'm working out a starting lineup for Spain. Check this: PG Ahron Ulis SG Jamarques Lawrence SF Ramel Lloyd, Jr. PF Brice Williams C CJ Wilcher OK, tell me ONE THING Rienk Mast has that CJ Wilcher lacks. OK, besides that. Well, I mean, OK, but other than that, too. Listen, CJ has a big body. He can DO this! He'll go into the season as our heir-apparent at Center. Kinda by default, but, y'know, still ... Go CJ!!! This lineup is Mastively small. Quote
basketballjones Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 9:29 AM, Norm Peterson said: 3. Sounds like Keisei is doing Japanese Olympic stuff while Rienk is doing Dutch basketball stuff and won't be making the trip. Does anyone know of anyone else, though, who won't be going or won't be available? Sounds like Juwan Gary is either 100% or close. Allick had some kind of toe surgery? Anyone know his status? Anyone else in the "out" or "doubtful" category? This stuff has always kinda drove me nuts. These guys have the rest of their careers to play with these teams. You’re at a place for a finite time that is paying for your education, and now, legally, also paying you to be there. “Playing for your country is an honor!” Stop - you’re not fighting in a war or doing Red Cross outreach. Red Rum, Woody Boyd, thrasher31 and 1 other 4 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, basketballjones said: This stuff has always kinda drove me nuts. These guys have the rest of their careers to play with these teams. You’re at a place for a finite time that is paying for your education, and now, legally, also paying you to be there. “Playing for your country is an honor!” Stop - you’re not fighting in a war or doing Red Cross outreach. I am assuming both players negotiated playing for their National team as part of the package to play for good ol NU.. So I certainly do not blame the players. I am also of the opinion that we don't have the leverage or lineage that some programs likely have in order to say no. Edited July 13, 2023 by Huskerpapa thrasher31, Woody Boyd and HuscurAdam 3 Quote
HuscurAdam Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 3 hours ago, basketballjones said: This stuff has always kinda drove me nuts. These guys have the rest of their careers to play with these teams. You’re at a place for a finite time that is paying for your education, and now, legally, also paying you to be there. “Playing for your country is an honor!” Stop - you’re not fighting in a war or doing Red Cross outreach. I can't disagree with this take more. Representing your country on the world stage is the highest career goal for many players. They're not about to give that up to play some college exhibition games, nor should they. I have a feeling if Keisei had to choose between forgoing international play or not returning to DONU, I don't think it would work out too well for us. OmahaHusker, royalfan, Woody Boyd and 5 others 8 Quote
OmahaHusker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 4 hours ago, basketballjones said: This stuff has always kinda drove me nuts. These guys have the rest of their careers to play with these teams. You’re at a place for a finite time that is paying for your education, and now, legally, also paying you to be there. “Playing for your country is an honor!” Stop - you’re not fighting in a war or doing Red Cross outreach. We're don't exactly have the high ground as a program to make those demands. Quote
jimmykc Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 As long as they do not get injured, I'm sure the quality of competition they face will be better than what we see in Spain so it should be a better chance to improve their personal skill development. HuscurAdam and Handy Johnson 1 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted July 14, 2023 Author Report Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, jimmykc said: As long as they do not get injured, I'm sure the quality of competition they face will be better than what we see in Spain so it should be a better chance to improve their personal skill development. What they miss out on is the opportunity to bond with their teammates and develop cohesion on the floor. It takes awhile to figure out how the new faces fit in and for players to settle into their roles. We're a better team in November and December if some of that happens in Spain in July and August. This foreign trip, we're a bit hamstrung in that regard because of the short roster. But we probably don't have a very difficult non-con so it probably won't matter much. Quote
hhcmatt Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 21 hours ago, basketballjones said: This stuff has always kinda drove me nuts. These guys have the rest of their careers to play with these teams. You’re at a place for a finite time that is paying for your education, and now, legally, also paying you to be there. “Playing for your country is an honor!” Stop - you’re not fighting in a war or doing Red Cross outreach. Do you realize that you're arguing that you think students are obligated to show up during summer vacation? HuscurAdam 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 I believe Hoiberg attributed some of the success of Keisei last season to his experience playing for the Japanese National team in the 2022 FIBA Asia Cup. Faux Mike Peltz 1 Quote
basketballjones Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 18 hours ago, HuscurAdam said: I can't disagree with this take more. Representing your country on the world stage is the highest career goal for many players. They're not about to give that up to play some college exhibition games, nor should they. I have a feeling if Keisei had to choose between forgoing international play or not returning to DONU, I don't think it would work out too well for us. Doesn’t change whether I like it or not, lol. They’re not exhibition games to me - they’re real to me! OmahaHusker, Huskerpapa, cornfed24-7 and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote
basketballjones Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, hhcmatt said: Do you realize that you're arguing that you think students are obligated to show up during summer vacation? I’m not really arguing anything. Just being a turd in the punch bowl. 49r and cornfed24-7 2 Quote
hhcmatt Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, basketballjones said: I’m not really arguing anything. Just being a turd in the punch bowl. ¡Qué triste! Quote
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