uneblinstu's postgame chatter: Vol: 10; ed: 19 - @ Penn St.

[GATA]

Just now, hskr4life said:

 

Maybe because he was 1-9, not playing well at all, and we erased a 16 point lead with him out.

 

I can see it both ways here.  We got the job done with him out tonight.  That didn’t lose us the game.  Terrible execution the last 16 seconds and overtime.

I get what you're saying, but having him as a threat on the floor maybe helps get us a better look. Those things matter despite his poor night.

[hskr4life]

1 minute ago, TimSmiles said:

i'd rather go down losing with my best players in the game. mcveigh is not one of our best players.

 

1 minute ago, GATA said:

I get what you're saying, but having him as a threat on the floor maybe helps get us a better look. Those things matter despite his poor night.

 

Like I said.  I could see playing him, and I could see not playing him.  It didn’t lose us the game.  In fact it got us back in the game.  Hopefully he takes it and learns from it.  McVeigh didn’t do anything wrong tonight.  He helped get us back in the game with some solid defense and steals.

[Dean Smith]

25 minutes ago, TimSmiles said:

unless palmer is hurt, miles has some explaining to do. how does he sit the last 10 min plus overtime?

 

 

Did you watch him play? He was not good tonight. You sit him and switch to the zone and they bring us back. It’s a tough decision. Do you go back to your regular guy or stick with who brought you all the way back? I think Palmer’s poor play to

that point made the decision. 

 

We are not close without Glenn, but he did exactly what the announcing crew was ripping on Penn State for - hero ball. No hero’s for Nebraska tonight. 

[bigred4]

Carr was 2-17 going into ot...PSU stuck with and he won them the game.  JP should have got some minutes especially after we called a time out at end of regulation.

Edited January 13, 2018 by bigred4

[49r]

35 minutes ago, 49r said:

No moral victory here, losing this one sucks because we are pretty clearly the better team and should probably be walking out of there winners tonight, but...

 

This is going to be a KenPom winner I'm pretty sure we should be in the 70's a little later tonight.

 

For what it's worth.

 

Just as I thought.  We moved up to #75 (interestingly, PSU stayed right at #45).  Probably could have been another 4 or 5 spots higher if we had won but it is what it is.  The projected record remains the same:

 

Projected record:

18-13

9-9

[FredsSlacks]

5 minutes ago, bigred4 said:

Carr was 2-17 going into ot...PSU stuck with and he won them the game.  JP should have got some minutes especially after we called a time out at end of regulation.

exactly. you have to stick with your best guys and trust they will break out of their slump. 

[Bugeaters1]

4 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

Just as I thought.  We moved up to #75 (interestingly, PSU stayed right at #45).  Probably could have been another 4 or 5 spots higher if we had won but it is what it is.  The projected record remains the same:

 

Projected record:

18-13

9-9

So what does the NCAA look at as far rpi's do they look at KenPom or something else?

 

[hskr4life]

We must remember that we weren’t expected to win this game.

[uneblinstu]

18 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

Maybe because he was 1-9, not playing well at all, and we erased a 16 point lead with him out.

 

I can see it both ways here.  We got the job done with him out tonight.  That didn’t lose us the game.  Terrible execution the last 16 seconds and overtime.

And the first half.

[brfrad]

1 minute ago, hskr4life said:

We must remember that we weren’t expected to win this game.

What?  You mean we shouldn't fire the coaches after every loss?

 

We didn't lose the game at the end.  We loss the game by playing like absolute horse manure the first 33 minutes.

[Bugeaters1]

 

[HuskerFever]

[49r]

10 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said:

So what does the NCAA look at as far rpi's do they look at KenPom or something else?

 

 

Pretty sure it's still almost exclusively the RPI rankings that the committee uses, we're a little higher in the RPI than we are in KenPom, but tonight's result hasn't been factored yet.  We'll likely drop slightly in the NCAA RPI:

 

RANK	PREVIOUS	SCHOOL	CONFERENCE	RECORD	ROAD	NEUTRAL	HOME	NON DIV I

9	7	Purdue	Big Ten	16-2	3-0	2-2	11-0	0-0
20	21	Michigan St.	Big Ten	16-2	1-1	4-1	11-0	0-0
22	26	Ohio St.	Big Ten	14-4	2-0	1-3	11-1	0-0
45	47	Michigan	Big Ten	14-4	2-2	2-1	9-1	1-0
50	49	Maryland	Big Ten	14-5	1-3	2-1	10-1	1-0
70	73	Nebraska	Big Ten	12-6	1-4	2-1	9-1	0-0
74	78	Minnesota	Big Ten	13-5	1-3	2-0	10-2	0-0
88	82	Northwestern	Big Ten	11-7	1-4	1-1	8-2	1-0
106	108	Indiana	Big Ten	10-7	1-4	1-0	8-3	0-0
122	122	Penn St.	Big Ten	12-6	2-3	1-1	9-2	0-0
132	137	Wisconsin	Big Ten	9-9	1-4	0-2	8-3	0-0
148	121	Illinois	Big Ten	10-8	0-4	1-2	8-2	1-0
152	176	Iowa	Big Ten	10-9	1-4	3-2	6-3	0-0
188	179	Rutgers	Big Ten	11-7	0-3	0-0	10-4	1-0

[Bugeaters1]

ok, there are so many RPI sites out there.

[Vinny]

Man. So tough to lose that one. If we ever play a whole game we'd beat damn near anyone out there. I love Glynn but have to think there is no way we drew that up at the end of regulation.  He also took the bad shot too early leaving them with another shot before overtime.  Can't decide yet if I think not bringing Palmer back was a good or bad idea. Not happy with the result though, so easy to say he should have been out there.

[49r]

7 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said:

ok, there are so many RPI sites out there.

 

This is the NCAA one:  http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

[royalfan]

I prefer to have Palmer in the ballgame like some others.  The past isn't always predictive of the future, especially when dealing with extremely small sample size. That being said, I don't care that much we left the same lineup in there, aside from one key time.  At the end of regulation Palmer most certainly should have been in there, when the play should have been to pressure the defense.  If the play is to let Watson just dribble and let one fly late, then we don't need Jack in for Palmer.  We should have the best driver we have on the court as another option to get an easier shot.  That part pisses me off greatly.  We are not horribly coached, but these coaches do not have that very necessary "it factor" that can get us over the top in close ones.  Gotta be able to make key decisions on the fly that are very important. 

[hhcmatt]

29 minutes ago, brfrad said:

What?  You mean we shouldn't fire the coaches after every loss?

 

We didn't lose the game at the end.  We loss the game by playing like absolute horse manure the first 33 minutes.

 

We were one Watson make away from toasting the genius of Miles for dusting off McVeigh to fuel the defensive charge at the end.

[GATA]

1 minute ago, hhcdimes said:

 

We were one Watson make away from toasting the genius of Miles for dusting off McVeigh to fuel the defensive charge at the end.

I think that's fair, but a win almost always excuses bad decisions or bad performances. 

 

That also doesn't make it right.

[hhcmatt]

39 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

We must remember that we weren’t expected to win this game.

 

We don't have to win all of them but we need to win most of them.

[hskr4life]

1 minute ago, hhcdimes said:

 

We don't have to win all of them but we need to win most of them.

 

Yep.  What sucks the most was this was one that we could have chalked up in the W column.

[royalfan]

The result has nothing to do with what I feel is the right lineup or play.  Maybe it does for others.  It is like poker.  If I make a shitty call and slop out with bad pot odds, that doesn't mean I made a good play, just as if Watson slopped out and threw that in wouldn'g have made it a good play either. 

[NUdiehard]

5 minutes ago, royalfan said:

The result has nothing to do with what I feel is the right lineup or play.  Maybe it does for others.  It is like poker.  If I make a shitty call and slop out with bad pot odds, that doesn't mean I made a good play, just as if Watson slopped out and threw that in wouldn'g have made it a good play either. 

Exactly. Process over results

[49r]

18 minutes ago, GATA said:

I think that's fair, but a win almost always excuses bad decisions or bad performances. 

 

That also doesn't make it right.

 

Does a loss invalidate good decisions or good performances?

 

Some times a win is just a win and a loss is just a loss.

[HuskerFever]

58 minutes ago, brfrad said:

What?  You mean we shouldn't fire the coaches after every loss?

 

Nah, he'll be fine. Moos won't fire anybody. He's only been to one game this year. (Can I at least hold onto this for a little bit? )