The debate continues

[ShortDust]

Morrow has a better offensive skill set than Jacobson or Hammond? Hammond I can see that, but not Jacobson

[AuroranHusker]

Morrow leaves his feet way too easy on the pump fake and it gets him every time.

 

He'll figure it out.

 

Yep, WAY too easily.

[atskooc]

Morrow leaves his feet way too easy on the pump fake and it gets him every time.

 

He'll figure it out.

Probably because he's way too short for the position.

[nustudent]

Personally...Parker shouldn't see more than 4-5 minutes a half.   Start Watson at the point.  When he needs his first breather, let Tai take the point.   We've been good offensively the last two games when we've done that.  

 

Bring Parker in for 4-5 minutes a half to use his quickness and act as a spark defensively.  Anything more than that and he'll wear done which completely negates anything positive he can bring to the table

[HuskerCager]

I really have a hard time understanding people's obsession with starting lineup.  It is a 0:01 minute decision in a 40:00 game.  Total minutes played seems more relevant to me.

[uneblinstu]

Bring Parker in for 4-5 minutes a half to use his quickness and act as a spark defensively.  Anything more than that and he'll wear done which completely negates anything positive he can bring to the table

Benny's workload isn't going to wear him down. He's just doesn't have the firepower that Watson has. He can still have a valuable role on this team and with it looking like Tai's going to be battling through injury for a while, 15-20 minutes a game from him shouldn't be an issue, at least not in terms of his durability.

[cjbowbros]

Can you play Watson 30 minutes a game because then you can start and finish with him?

I'm not sure you can without just grinding him down this year though maybe I'm wrong.

NBA starters routinely play 30+ minutes per game over an 82-game season, and many of those guys are in their 30s. How could playing 30 MPG over 31 games grind down an 18-year-old?

Glynn needs to play a lot more. The entire team benefits when he's on the court. I love Benny's team-first attitude, but his court vision, ball handling, passing and offensive ability are not on Watson's level.

1. Sorry I am late to this party, but I wanted to address the comparison of NBA/college minutes. I have frequently argued that college freshmen must battle fatigue during their first year playing college ball. Its usually a combination of their bodies still developing and acclimating to the new playing environment. If you disagree, look no further than the minute averages for the current flock of NBA rookies.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/avgMinutes/position/rookies

Only one rookie, Jahlil Okafor is averaging more than 30 minutes a game, and ten (10) are playing more than 20 minutes a game. Of those ten, three, Mudiay, Porzingis, and Bjelica, played internationally prior to coming into the NBA.

Watson needs that time to develop, both physically and emotionally, and limiting his minutes is a standard method many coaches use ease the development. Give Watson time to develop. He has grown up a lot in 10 games. I just do not want him to be burned out in February/March.

As for Watson starting, I would rather have Watson in the game when it matters most. If that is at the beginning of a game, great. However, I would rather have Watson on the floor at the end of games, especially the close ones. If that means he starts the game on the bench, so be it. The more we see of Watson in there for crunch time now, the better this team will be come tournament time.

2. Discussing the starting lineup, I feel Miles needs to reshuffle a few things. It seems Miles has played Parker, Webster, Watson exclusively at the 1 and 2. There have been a few times I noticed McVeigh and White sliding up to the 2; however, the focus seems to be 3 guys holding down 2 spots. At the 5, Miles lately seems to be focusing upon Hammonds, Jacobson, and, less and less, Morrow. The remaining 3 and 4 spots are left for McVeigh, Shields, White, and Fuller. This strategy limits the development of Morrow (who is getting fewer and fewer minutes). I would like to see Morrow slide to the 4 and White slide to the 2.

If this is true then wouldn't the best way to help your freshman stay fit for the end of the game be to space out his minutes. That would mean starting your freshman and giving him breaks in the middle of the game. Even if he's playing the same amount of minutes! If this is true then it does matter who's starting and not just the amount of playing time they get. Right?

[Donkey]

Personally...Parker shouldn't see more than 4-5 minutes a half.   Start Watson at the point.  When he needs his first breather, let Tai take the point.   We've been good offensively the last two games when we've done that.  

 

Bring Parker in for 4-5 minutes a half to use his quickness and act as a spark defensively.  Anything more than that and he'll wear done which completely negates anything positive he can bring to the table

I agree in theory; however, your suggestion assumes Tai stays on the floor all game. Unless White spends more time at the 2, the current depth leaves us with heavy doses of Parker.

[Donkey]

 

 

 

Can you play Watson 30 minutes a game because then you can start and finish with him?

I'm not sure you can without just grinding him down this year though maybe I'm wrong.

NBA starters routinely play 30+ minutes per game over an 82-game season, and many of those guys are in their 30s. How could playing 30 MPG over 31 games grind down an 18-year-old?

Glynn needs to play a lot more. The entire team benefits when he's on the court. I love Benny's team-first attitude, but his court vision, ball handling, passing and offensive ability are not on Watson's level.

1. Sorry I am late to this party, but I wanted to address the comparison of NBA/college minutes. I have frequently argued that college freshmen must battle fatigue during their first year playing college ball. Its usually a combination of their bodies still developing and acclimating to the new playing environment. If you disagree, look no further than the minute averages for the current flock of NBA rookies.http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/avgMinutes/position/rookies

Only one rookie, Jahlil Okafor is averaging more than 30 minutes a game, and ten (10) are playing more than 20 minutes a game. Of those ten, three, Mudiay, Porzingis, and Bjelica, played internationally prior to coming into the NBA.

Watson needs that time to develop, both physically and emotionally, and limiting his minutes is a standard method many coaches use ease the development. Give Watson time to develop. He has grown up a lot in 10 games. I just do not want him to be burned out in February/March.

As for Watson starting, I would rather have Watson in the game when it matters most. If that is at the beginning of a game, great. However, I would rather have Watson on the floor at the end of games, especially the close ones. If that means he starts the game on the bench, so be it. The more we see of Watson in there for crunch time now, the better this team will be come tournament time.

2. Discussing the starting lineup, I feel Miles needs to reshuffle a few things. It seems Miles has played Parker, Webster, Watson exclusively at the 1 and 2. There have been a few times I noticed McVeigh and White sliding up to the 2; however, the focus seems to be 3 guys holding down 2 spots. At the 5, Miles lately seems to be focusing upon Hammonds, Jacobson, and, less and less, Morrow. The remaining 3 and 4 spots are left for McVeigh, Shields, White, and Fuller. This strategy limits the development of Morrow (who is getting fewer and fewer minutes). I would like to see Morrow slide to the 4 and White slide to the 2.

If this is true then wouldn't the best way to help your freshman stay fit for the end of the game be to space out his minutes. That would mean starting your freshman and giving him breaks in the middle of the game. Even if he's playing the same amount of minutes! If this is true then it does matter who's starting and not just the amount of playing time they get. Right?

Your logic does not add up. Spacing out minutes does not mean a specific player must start.

There are a lot of arguments in favor of starting Watson. My focus is balancing Watson's development while keeping him from burnout in February and March when we will really need him.  If that means starting Watson, I am good with it.  Miles seems to believe bringing in Watson once it is clear what the other team is doing is more valuable.  

[BjoeHusker]

Benny looks so lost in the offense, if you want to call it an offense. All he does is dribble around in circles. I hate when he dribbles all the way under the basket. He already has more turnovers this season did he did last year at this point, and he's played fewer minutes this season.

 

Obviously he is not a threat offensively, Hard to believe he averaged 25 ppg, 6 assists, and 4 steals as a senior. If I remember correctly, he won some award as top player in the KC area.

[huskerbaseball13]

Benny looks so lost in the offense, if you want to call it an offense. All he does is dribble around in circles. I hate when he dribbles all the way under the basket. He already has more turnovers this season did he did last year at this point, and he's played fewer minutes this season.

Obviously he is not a threat offensively, Hard to believe he averaged 25 ppg, 6 assists, and 4 steals as a senior. If I remember correctly, he won some award as top player in the KC area.

Benny gives it his all, but...having to give a player of his skill level 25+ minutes a game is a good recipe to potentially finish under .500 two years in a row. Tack on no adequate big man and a starting two guard that struggles to shoot and take care of the ball leads you to believe someone dropped the ball on the recruiting trail.

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[hhcmatt]

Here are the numbers that indicate that the more Benny plays, the more he hurts the offense

 

[kldm64]

This shouldn't even be a debate anymore.  Glynn is clearly the better option of the 2 and it ain't even close.  And what frustrates me even more is when they put Glynn and Benny in the game together and move Benny to the off guard.  What is the point of that???  Anytime Benny is in the game, we are just offensively challenged since he isn't a scorer or great at creating for other players and getting assists.  Nobody is saying he can't have a role on the team but he should be playing about 5 minutes a half at most.

[nustudent]

 

Personally...Parker shouldn't see more than 4-5 minutes a half.   Start Watson at the point.  When he needs his first breather, let Tai take the point.   We've been good offensively the last two games when we've done that.  

 

Bring Parker in for 4-5 minutes a half to use his quickness and act as a spark defensively.  Anything more than that and he'll wear done which completely negates anything positive he can bring to the table

I agree in theory; however, your suggestion assumes Tai stays on the floor all game. Unless White spends more time at the 2, the current depth leaves us with heavy doses of Parker.

 

 

Doesn't assume that.   Tai will sit at times and Parker will still play...just 8-10 minutes rather than 25.  And White can play the two in small doses.   I for the life of me don't understand why we can't occasionally put Parker/Webster/White/Shields on the floor at the same time.   Or give Morrow a chance at the 4 alongside Jacobson/Hammond at the 5. 

[Donkey]

 

 

Personally...Parker shouldn't see more than 4-5 minutes a half.   Start Watson at the point.  When he needs his first breather, let Tai take the point.   We've been good offensively the last two games when we've done that.  

 

Bring Parker in for 4-5 minutes a half to use his quickness and act as a spark defensively.  Anything more than that and he'll wear done which completely negates anything positive he can bring to the table

I agree in theory; however, your suggestion assumes Tai stays on the floor all game. Unless White spends more time at the 2, the current depth leaves us with heavy doses of Parker.

 

 

Doesn't assume that.   Tai will sit at times and Parker will still play...just 8-10 minutes rather than 25.  And White can play the two in small doses.   I for the life of me don't understand why we can't occasionally put Parker/Webster/White/Shields on the floor at the same time.   Or give Morrow a chance at the 4 alongside Jacobson/Hammond at the 5. 

 

 

Let's say Parker plays 10 minutes; White plays 5 minutes a game at the 2; which leaves Watson/Webster with 32-33 minutes a game.  Webster could handle that, but I am not sure Watson is there yet.  If either Webster or Watson get into foul trouble though, we would see lots of Parker.

 

Just curious.  Could you see Roby playing the 2 next year?  

 

I would love to see Morrow come off the bench for Shields (or have Shields sometimes slide over to the 3 and play Morrow).  

[nustudent]

 

 

 

Personally...Parker shouldn't see more than 4-5 minutes a half.   Start Watson at the point.  When he needs his first breather, let Tai take the point.   We've been good offensively the last two games when we've done that.  

 

Bring Parker in for 4-5 minutes a half to use his quickness and act as a spark defensively.  Anything more than that and he'll wear done which completely negates anything positive he can bring to the table

I agree in theory; however, your suggestion assumes Tai stays on the floor all game. Unless White spends more time at the 2, the current depth leaves us with heavy doses of Parker.

 

 

Doesn't assume that.   Tai will sit at times and Parker will still play...just 8-10 minutes rather than 25.  And White can play the two in small doses.   I for the life of me don't understand why we can't occasionally put Parker/Webster/White/Shields on the floor at the same time.   Or give Morrow a chance at the 4 alongside Jacobson/Hammond at the 5. 

 

 

Let's say Parker plays 10 minutes; White plays 5 minutes a game at the 2; which leaves Watson/Webster with 32-33 minutes a game.  Webster could handle that, but I am not sure Watson is there yet.  If either Webster or Watson get into foul trouble though, we would see lots of Parker.

 

Just curious.  Could you see Roby playing the 2 next year?  

 

I would love to see Morrow come off the bench for Shields (or have Shields sometimes slide over to the 3 and play Morrow).  

 

 

Id be fine with Watson at 32-33 minutes per.   Play your best players.  If he gets in foul trouble...ok...respond accordingly.

 

Id just like to see Morrow get spot duty from time to time alongside another big

[kldm64]

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

[Silverbacked1]

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.[/size]

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

is over for us, but the guy who makes the rules sees it differently.so...

[HuskerFever]

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

 

That would make sense if our team were robots. Stats would then drive 100% of decision-making. However, we're dealing with people, emotions, and whatever other "baggage" that comes with. I can't make any inferences from Miles' decisions, but other things factor into lineups such as team dynamics, etc. Who knows?

[hhcmatt]

 

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

 

That would make sense if our team were robots. Stats would then drive 100% of decision-making. However, we're dealing with people, emotions, and whatever other "baggage" that comes with. I can't make any inferences from Miles' decisions, but other things factor into lineups such as team dynamics, etc. Who knows?

 

 

I suppose it depends on whether or not Benny wants to play in the post season because we're not if he's playing 25-30 minutes a game. The numbers clearly indicate that he's at his peak offensively playing 10-15 minutes.

[huskerbaseball13]

 

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

 

That would make sense if our team were robots. Stats would then drive 100% of decision-making. However, we're dealing with people, emotions, and whatever other "baggage" that comes with. I can't make any inferences from Miles' decisions, but other things factor into lineups such as team dynamics, etc. Who knows?

 

 

Miles makes a very good living off of having to make tough decisions.  IMO, this is not a tough decision.  I don't know if there is a right answer but Miles needs to do what is best for the team, not what is best for Benny Parker's feelings.  If Benny can't accept that(I bet he can) then next man up.  We all know Benny is important piece to our defense...but, as a point guard you can't be putting up the type of numbers he is right now while playing 25 minutes a game and expect to win many games. 

[Dead Dog Alley]

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

Find another guy anywhere in the country who is putting up less than 4 points with less than 2.5 rebounds, less than 2.5 assists, and less than one steal a game who is averaging 20 minutes or more of playing time.  I'd wager that you can't.

[kldm64]

 

Benny Parker is averaging 3.8 points and 2 assists per game in 25.6 minutes. Glynn Watson is averaging 7.9 points, 2.6 assists in 20.8 mins.

 

DEBATE OVER!!!

Find another guy anywhere in the country who is putting up less than 4 points with less than 2.5 rebounds, less than 2.5 assists, and less than one steal a game who is averaging 20 minutes or more of playing time.  I'd wager that you can't.

 

 

And don't forget to include his 20 turnovers through 12 games as well.

[FredsSlacks]

glynn is starting tonight....

 

[Hooper]

Debate over...