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kldm64

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I hope Doc lands at Tech.  I want to see him coaching again.  They could do a whole lot worse than Doc Sadler, that's for sure.

 

And they could do a whole lot better than Doc Sadler.  Why would he leave the cushy job he has now at KU?  If I was him, I'd stay there as long as I could.  He wasn't going to get a good coaching job after he got fired from NU so he ended up landing a great gig at KU.  He gets to be apart of one of the greatest college basketball programs.  Who would want to leave that.

Umm...somebody who wants to coach?

 

Wants to coach and can coach are not the same thing.

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Dean Smith
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Robert Sallie or however it should be spelled becomes  eligible and how things could have been so different. There is a tremendous amount of luck or things outside your control that effect this game,

49r
49r

This is the 100% absolute truth.  Anybody who doesn't agree with this is a complete and utter moron.  

jimmykc
jimmykc

Don't forget to add Billy Gillespie to the mix. He might prove to be the life of the party.

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Doc can coach, KLDM.  He just had trouble getting players to Lincoln, Nebraska.  I suspect at TTech, he'd be more in his element.  He's recruited to that area before.  HB makes a good point.  And, while you say TTech could do better, in their last couple of hires, they haven't proved it.

atskooc

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I hope Doc lands at Tech.  I want to see him coaching again.  They could do a whole lot worse than Doc Sadler, that's for sure.

 

And they could do a whole lot better than Doc Sadler.  Why would he leave the cushy job he has now at KU?  If I was him, I'd stay there as long as I could.  He wasn't going to get a good coaching job after he got fired from NU so he ended up landing a great gig at KU.  He gets to be apart of one of the greatest college basketball programs.  Who would want to leave that.

Umm...somebody who wants to coach?

 

Wants to coach and can coach are not the same thing.

That's not what you were talking about.

 

You asked who would want to leave the KU job to coach.  Well, who would want to do that?  Someone who wants to coach. 

 

Ability has nothing to do with the answer you were looking for.

Dean Smith

Dean Smith

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I hope Doc lands at Tech.  I want to see him coaching again.  They could do a whole lot worse than Doc Sadler, that's for sure.

 

And they could do a whole lot better than Doc Sadler.  Why would he leave the cushy job he has now at KU?  If I was him, I'd stay there as long as I could.  He wasn't going to get a good coaching job after he got fired from NU so he ended up landing a great gig at KU.  He gets to be apart of one of the greatest college basketball programs.  Who would want to leave that.

Umm...somebody who wants to coach?

 

Wants to coach and can coach are not the same thing.

Robert Sallie or however it should be spelled becomes  eligible and how things could have been so different. There is a tremendous amount of luck or things outside your control that effect this game, sometime tor the good and sometimes for the bad. Doc got hired at Kansas because someone there thought he knows something about basketball. When other coaches say something good about Miles its all, "see what they're saying about our guy!" but when other coaches often expressed their respect for Doc it was, "coaching courtesy, what else are they going to say." We respect others' opinions as long as they agree with us. Tubby Smith can coach, Ben Howland can coach, Doc has never had the success either of those have had but he can coach a bit. Let's put you at work doing whatever it is you do on TV and see how many critics show up. It's a tough job that they get well paid for so I guess they need to put up with the cries from the peanut gallery.  

 

This, to me is the major problem in America about everything - Certitude. Everyone is damn sure they have all the answers whether its sports, politics or religion, so when someone disagrees with us they can't just be wrong they have to be idiots, immoral, or have some hidden agenda to bring us all down. I do have some opinions on things that I've actually taken the time to research and think about. I think Doc can be a successful coach, but it is possible that I'm wrong and he really does suck. I don't mind the differing opinions just the certitude in which they are presented. Differences should be what gets us to think, but instead it seems to only make us defensive, snarky and insulting.

 

Does anyone know how I'm supposed to get down off this really high box, I seem to be stuck up here.

kldm64

kldm64

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Doc can coach, KLDM.  He just had trouble getting players to Lincoln, Nebraska.  I suspect at TTech, he'd be more in his element.  He's recruited to that area before.  HB makes a good point.  And, while you say TTech could do better, in their last couple of hires, they haven't proved it.

 

I think Doc could be successful as a Mid-Major program but not sure he can compete as a coach in a major conference (yet).  He might down the road but don't think he could today.  Some coaches (Coach McDermott for example) just seem to be more successful at that level.  I do agree he might have more success in Texas than he did here.  And to your point that Texas Tech hasn't proved it in their last two hires, you could make the same case for NU with our last two hires prior to Miles.  Most of us wanted better and think Texas Tech could do better than hiring Doc.  Not saying they shouldn't hire him but would expect they can get a coach with a better track record.

49r

49r

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This, to me is the major problem in America about everything - Certitude. Everyone is damn sure they have all the answers whether its sports, politics or religion, so when someone disagrees with us they can't just be wrong they have to be idiots, immoral, or have some hidden agenda to bring us all down. I do have some opinions on things that I've actually taken the time to research and think about. I think Doc can be a successful coach, but it is possible that I'm wrong and he really does suck. I don't mind the differing opinions just the certitude in which they are presented. Differences should be what gets us to think, but instead it seems to only make us defensive, snarky and insulting.

 

Does anyone know how I'm supposed to get down off this really high box, I seem to be stuck up here.

 

This is the 100% absolute truth.  Anybody who doesn't agree with this is a complete and utter moron.  ;)

cipsucks

cipsucks

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Robert Sallie or however it should be spelled becomes  eligible and how things could have been so different. There is a tremendous amount of luck or things outside your control that effect this game, sometime tor the good and sometimes for the bad. Doc got hired at Kansas because someone there thought he knows something about basketball. When other coaches say something good about Miles its all, "see what they're saying about our guy!" but when other coaches often expressed their respect for Doc it was, "coaching courtesy, what else are they going to say." We respect others' opinions as long as they agree with us. Tubby Smith can coach, Ben Howland can coach, Doc has never had the success either of those have had but he can coach a bit. Let's put you at work doing whatever it is you do on TV and see how many critics show up. It's a tough job that they get well paid for so I guess they need to put up with the cries from the peanut gallery.  

 

 

 

 

 

This, to me is the major problem in America about everything - Certitude. Everyone is damn sure they have all the answers whether its sports, politics or religion, so when someone disagrees with us they can't just be wrong they have to be idiots, immoral, or have some hidden agenda to bring us all down. I do have some opinions on things that I've actually taken the time to research and think about. I think Doc can be a successful coach, but it is possible that I'm wrong and he really does suck. I don't mind the differing opinions just the certitude in which they are presented. Differences should be what gets us to think, but instead it seems to only make us defensive, snarky and insulting.

 

Does anyone know how I'm supposed to get down off this really high box, I seem to be stuck up here.

I think Drudge ran a story on how to do that.....  ;)

Handy Johnson

Handy Johnson

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If you axe me, conversating is a lost art. And yes the subtleties and nuances of life are blurred in the " white noise" of the media, social and otherwise. Yet, I'll bet ya dollars to doughnuts Doc ends up in Lubbock before Tubby.

jimmykc

jimmykc

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Having traveled through Lubbock on many occasions I would think any coach agreeing to move there would demand a premium salary package. (and, yes, I realize that all of our West Texas posters will call me an idiot for saying that). I would not rule out the "rehiring" of their temporary guy since he is also being considered and has a close relationship with the top prospect in Texas. Look what happened to Bo when Stevie P. passed him over.

trickey

trickey

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If you axe me, conversating is a lost art. And yes the subtleties and nuances of life are blurred in the " white noise" of the media, social and otherwise. Yet, I'll bet ya dollars to doughnuts Doc ends up in Lubbock before Tubby.

You know you are getting old when...

You are using the phrase "bet ya dollars to doughnuts"...which used to signify you would bet 20/1.

Now you look at the local Hy-Vee and doughnuts are $.69/each.

Not that daring of a bet any more...but us oldsters get it. ;)

AuroranHusker

AuroranHusker

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Interesting to see the wild web of connections between Tubby Smith leaving UK and Billy Clyde taking that leap of faith to Lex from Tex. And, now Tubby picking up Tech after Gillispie left it in ruins. Oh, what a web these two have weaved.

Lincoln Gopher

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Minnesota is getting their just deserts. Fire a winning coach? What a stupid, stupid move by that AD. 

While I am not happy how the search is going, there is an arguement for firing Tubby.  As I stated earlier Tubby had a horrible conference record 46-62, not too far off from Doc's conference record.  Monumental collapses in 3 of the 6 season's, going from ranked teams, as high as 8th in the country this year, to a losing record and bottom half of the conference in 2 months time in 3 seasons.  He commonly threw players under the bus rather than ever putting it on the coaching staff.  He recruiting was always a question mark.  Then the Gophers had several(6) transfers under Tubby that didn't make any sense.  Players were getting playing time, but still left and had good careers at other schools.  Tubby is a good man and he did things the right way off the court for the most part.  I wish it had worked for him at Minnesota, but 3 million a year for a 46-62 conference record with good talent is a good arguement for getting fired.

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