Quad 1 games

[Navin R. Johnson]

45 minutes ago, throwback said:

To take this topic even further off the rails - I hope you're right, but we need to increase the number of state bred horses quite a bit to be able to fill out fields and to justify more racing days. State-bred horses have had a couple of decades of neglect because of the downfall of racing here. The casino money will be there to supplement bigger races that draw out of state horses/trainers, but you have to have plenty of state-bred races on the undercard to fill things out and to make competitive other races. Not much is worse for wagering than having half your races on a card with only 4 or 5 horses in them. I think the casino-fed purses will be large enough to justify increases in state-bred horse populations, but nature requires that it's going to take a few years to see the benefits. 

 

If everything works out, Lincoln could quickly become one of the most important ovals in the Midwest. Lincoln has the perfect combo of the least competition in terms of nearby casinos coupled with a large population base, and I'd imagine Lincoln's casino profits will be massive. That could supplement some major races. Plus Lincoln has at least a 7/8 mile track, where Omaha & GI are almost land-locked into 5/8 mile tracks without major construction, which limits their appeal for big races. Lincoln's straightaway should be long enough that it could accommodate up to 1-1/8 mile races on two turns, which is helpful. (Looks like Columbus is going to build a new 1-mile track, which should be interesting in terms of what kinds of races they can put together. Like GI, that Columbus casino will have a big regional draw and great profits, I'd imagine. By comparison Omaha & South Sioux are probably going to struggle the most; lots of nearby established casino competition.)

 

 

 

And back on topic, big game Saturday. Get that one, and you're prob going to end up 8-3 in the non-con. That puts you in a really nice spot going into B1G play - a spot we haven't been in all that often the past few years.

 

 

Columbus will have to improve on the numbers and quality of horses they get.  There are times when they would only have 5 horses in a race and I think Andre Almeida could have beaten half the field.

[throwback]

1 hour ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

 

Columbus will have to improve on the numbers and quality of horses they get.  There are times when they would only have 5 horses in a race and I think Andre Almeida could have beaten half the field.

True - cut my gambling teeth at Ag Park. Let's just say that carding at Ag Park at that time was not a priority, which was greatly appreciated.

 

They decided to have a nearly 3-mile race there many years ago one time for the low-end claimers. I think it was 4-1/2 laps. Horses were lapping other horses. It was a disaster, yet hilarious. Truly Ag Park at its finest. 

 

Ag Park is where greatly increasing the number of state bred horses becomes key. Can't fill out those race cards without a large number of state breds, especially the $2500 claimers. Ag Park specializes in those.  

 

Harrah's is going to put some serious money into the new Columbus racino, around $75M I believe I read. Should be interesting to see how the horse racing changes there. I just hope they can import that unique Ag Park smell to the new place. 

 

[hskr4life]

Nebraska has a chance here to get on the national scene if they take this seriously.  Now no— we won’t ever be a Santa Anita or Keeneland or anything like that.  However, there really isn’t any Midwest tracks that run in that late spring and summer time period.

 

Oaklawn owns most of the late winter and spring.  Remington and the Texas tracks own the fall and early winter.  However, I could see a scenario where Lincoln could become the “go-to” for the 2nd tier horses out of good barns in the summer months.  A June-August type schedule.  There is possibility there, but how bad do we want it?

Edited December 14, 2022 by hskr4life

[Bugeaters1]

20 hours ago, Silverbacked1 said:

Could it be a Phillips 66 type of game?

I can't remember the guys name that partnered with Gary Thompson, nice easy voice to listen to.

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Bugeaters1

[Bugeaters1]

16 hours ago, skerbball said:

37 race days in 2023 at Fonner and 59 total in Nebraska…racing in this state hopefully about to make a major resurgence in the next few years! 

Always got the DD on KRGI live and it was shown on KHAS TV everynight.

 

[Bugeaters1]

6 hours ago, throwback said:

To take this topic even further off the rails - I hope you're right, but we need to increase the number of state bred horses quite a bit to be able to fill out fields and to justify more racing days. State-bred horses have had a couple of decades of neglect because of the downfall of racing here. The casino money will be there to supplement bigger races that draw out of state horses/trainers, but you have to have plenty of state-bred races on the undercard to fill things out and to make competitive other races. Not much is worse for wagering than having half your races on a card with only 4 or 5 horses in them. I think the casino-fed purses will be large enough to justify increases in state-bred horse populations, but nature requires that it's going to take a few years to see the benefits. 

 

If everything works out, Lincoln could quickly become one of the most important ovals in the Midwest. Lincoln has the perfect combo of the least competition in terms of nearby casinos coupled with a large population base, and I'd imagine Lincoln's casino profits will be massive. That could supplement some major races. Plus Lincoln has at least a 7/8 mile track, where Omaha & GI are almost land-locked into 5/8 mile tracks without major construction, which limits their appeal for big races. Lincoln's straightaway should be long enough that it could accommodate up to 1-1/8 mile races on two turns, which is helpful. (Looks like Columbus is going to build a new 1-mile track, which should be interesting in terms of what kinds of races they can put together. Like GI, that Columbus casino will have a big regional draw and great profits, I'd imagine. By comparison Omaha & South Sioux are probably going to struggle the most; lots of nearby established casino competition.)

 

 

 

And back on topic, big game Saturday. Get that one, and you're prob going to end up 8-3 in the non-con. That puts you in a really nice spot going into B1G play - a spot we haven't been in all that often the past few years.

 

Hastings is building a new track on the north end of town. But it will be a quater horse track.

[cipsucks]

1 hour ago, Bugeaters1 said:

I can't remember the guys name that partnered with Gary Thompson, nice easy voice to listen to.

 

 

You might be thinking about Glen Potter. I was in his fundamentals of basketball class at UNL.  Super nice guy and knew his basketball.

[Bugeaters1]

What would you guys like too know about the racsino's My wife is on the State gambling committee.

[Huskerpapa]

9 minutes ago, cipsucks said:

 

You might be thinking about Glen Potter. I was in his fundamentals of basketball class at UNL.  Super nice guy and knew his basketball.

Hey...I wasin his class as well.  He came from BYU to join Moe's staff.  I cannot recall all the coaches that taught those classes; but in addition to Glen, I recall Sanders in baseball, Allen and his assistant in gymnastics, Applegate in Track and Field and Orville Borigeli in wrestling.  As a side note, in the corner of the wrestling class, a young man had the beginnings of a weight room set up.  I believe that young man may have been Boyd Epley.

[Handy Johnson]

1 hour ago, Bugeaters1 said:

What would you guys like too know about the racsino's My wife is on the State gambling committee.

Ha, my Cousins on the State Marijuana Board in Colorado. 

[nuhusker7]

On 12/13/2022 at 2:43 PM, Bugeaters1 said:

Seems the like the Huskers could get a bid to a tourney if they could finish with a .500 mark.

 

I’m sure my logic is slightly flawed here, but I almost think it’s more likely to make the NCAA than the NIT, and that the CBI or other is almost impossible.

 

18+ we are in the tourney with this resume

17 wins and it’s possible to make the tourney and possible to make NIT

16 wins and we are (with a 500 record) in the NIT

15 wins and we are out of contention of anything

 

I also am not including BIG tournament in the above and that affects everything, but my point is still that if we win at least half our games we will have a great resume

[Nebrasketball1979]

11 hours ago, nuhusker7 said:

I’m sure my logic is slightly flawed here, but I almost think it’s more likely to make the NCAA than the NIT, and that the CBI or other is almost impossible.

 

18+ we are in the tourney with this resume

17 wins and it’s possible to make the tourney and possible to make NIT

16 wins and we are (with a 500 record) in the NIT

15 wins and we are out of contention of anything

 

I also am not including BIG tournament in the above and that affects everything, but my point is still that if we win at least half our games we will have a great resume

 

My eyes tell me this is an NCAA tournament caliber team.  I also did not get great news at my eye doctor appointment a few weeks back so there is that as well.

[millerhusker]

13 hours ago, nuhusker7 said:

I’m sure my logic is slightly flawed here, but I almost think it’s more likely to make the NCAA than the NIT, and that the CBI or other is almost impossible.

 

18+ we are in the tourney with this resume

17 wins and it’s possible to make the tourney and possible to make NIT

16 wins and we are (with a 500 record) in the NIT

15 wins and we are out of contention of anything

 

I also am not including BIG tournament in the above and that affects everything, but my point is still that if we win at least half our games we will have a great resume

I agree with this. But I don’t think there’s any chance we get in with 17 regular season wins. That’d give us 15 losses going into selection Sunday. I believe the most losses ever for an at-large team is 14 and that’s pretty rare. Michigan did it last year, but I do think the name on the front of the jersey matters at that point even though they’ll say it doesn't. 

A lot of people think it’s ridiculous to be calculating this stuff at this point in a Nebrasketball season, but that’s the fun part of being a fan. I used to do this every year, but for about 8 of the last 10 seasons there’s been no reason to. Makes the games more exciting to watch when they all matter. I was on the edge of my damn seat in 2014 for every game from the Ohio St game in January til no sit Sunday. We were 9-8 after that Ohio St game, but after running the numbers you could feel we had a chance. 
 

I’m still pissed off about the Purdue game. You have to win that game. Period. This K-State game feels like it could be a classic letdown. I’ll be very impressed if we come away with a win. 

Edited December 15, 2022 by millerhusker

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

I’m stilled pissed off about the Purdue game. You have to win that game. Period. This K-State game feels like it could be a classic letdown. I’ll be very impressed if we come away with a win. 

 

I'm pissed about Purdue too, but hopefully the team is following the advice of not losing the same game twice and putting it behind them.

 

In spite of the screw job by the refs, though, that Purdue game gave me a lot of optimism. This is a tough team and we're close. Just need CJ to start making some shots and Sam to get healthy. We're not as far away as many might think. That doesn't mean I think we're an NCAA tourney team, but we don't need a hell of a lot of breaks to get in the running.

 

Starting with beating KSU. And I think we match up with them decently well. Our best defensive player is a great fit against their best offensive player. So, when they're on offense, it's strength against strength. And the only guy on the floor likely to be able to stop Derrick Walker is Derrick Walker. If he plays his kind of game, he could go off for 20.

[jimmykc]

Since we are now officially a bubble team, do they still have the play-in games for the NCAA this year? And are they still in Dayton?

[Bugeaters1]

17 hours ago, Handy Johnson said:

Ha, my Cousins on the State Marijuana Board in Colorado. 

Maybe he can give you some insight on those funny cigarettes.

[Bugeaters1]

3 hours ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

 

My eyes tell me this is an NCAA tournament caliber team.  I also did not get great news at my eye doctor appointment a few weeks back so there is that as well.

Now you can offer your glasses to a ref, when they blow a call.

[huskerbill85]

On 12/13/2022 at 5:15 PM, jimmykc said:

Just wondering if the Kansas State game will be televised Saturday. I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Tickets $25 if you can't make it inside there will be a watch party at PNL should be fun 

[Dead Dog Alley]

On 12/14/2022 at 9:54 AM, Navin R. Johnson said:

 

There are times when they would only have 5 horses in a race and I think Andre Almeida could have beaten half the field.

 

That made more sense to me before I saw the "b".

Edited December 17, 2022 by Dead Dog Alley

[Bugeaters1]

Creighton is dying a slow death. really screwing our Q1 win.

[cipsucks]

Those were the days.

 

 

[cipsucks]

 

 

[jdw]

1 hour ago, cipsucks said:

Those were the days.

 

 

I still have mine, tried to take a picture but the file was too large to attach.

[Dead Dog Alley]

1 hour ago, cipsucks said:

Those were the days.

 

 

Add a 1 in front of that 3.99 now...

[cipsucks]

After we win these next two games, B1G we're coming after you.  Never should have screwed us over with Purdue.