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Posted (edited)

Inspired by a thread I found on another Big Ten team's message board regarding historical KenPom rankings, I went through and compiled some rankings data for Nebraska.  This 30,000 foot view of where we have been over nearly the past two decades has been interesting to me, some thoughts about this info to follow:

 

Year - Coach ----- Starting -- High -- Low -- Final -- (Strength of Schedule)

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2002 - Collier (13-15) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #103 -- (#75)

2003 - Collier (11-18) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #138 -- (#25)

2004 - Collier (18-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #40 ---- (#86)

2005 - Collier (14-14) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #80 ---- (#67)

2006 - Collier (19-14) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #111 -- (#90)

2007 - Sadler (17-14) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #82 ---- (#60)

2008 - Sadler (20-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #39 ---- (#69)

2009 - Sadler (18-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #63 ---- (#58)

2010 - Sadler (15-18) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #93 ---- (#47)

2011 - Sadler (19-13) -- #76 -- #34 --- #81 --- #64 ---- (#77)

2012 - Sadler (12-18) -- #53 -- #51 --- #158 -- #152 -- (#11)

2013 - Miles (15-18) -- #214 -- #127 - #218 -- #136 -- (#8)

2014 - Miles (19-13) -- #123 -- #44 -- #123 -- #56 ---- (#18)

2015 - Miles (13-18) -- #36 ---- #34 -- #131 -- #121 -- (#43)

2016 - Miles (16-18) -- #139 -- #79 -- #156 -- #85 ---- (#73)

2017 - Miles (12-19) -- #85 ---- #71 -- #105 -- #107 -- (#14)

2018 - Miles (22-11) -- #97 ---- #50 -- #114 -- #55 ---- (#59)

2019 - Miles (19-17) -- #38 ---- #11 -- #45 ---- #47 ---- (#9)

 

 

Initial take aways for me

  1. The move to the Big Ten.  That move has had a MAJOR impact on our Strength of Schedule, probably has been the single most significant factor in our KenPom ranking over time.
  2. Miles' rankings indicate that he may not have actually elevated the program with much significance over the Collier/Sadler eras, however, SOS improvement may be a factor at play.
  3. KenPom uses historical data to influence rankings moving forward, and it appears we are definitely trending upward.  It will be interesting how the trend continues under Hoiberg, and with that said...

 

Here is the same info for Hoiberg's tenure at Iowa State:

 

Year -------- Starting -- High -- Low -- Final -- (Strength of Schedule)

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2011 - (16-16) -- #175 -- #32 -- #175 -- #81 -- (#78)

2012 - (23-11) -- #120 -- #26 -- #125 -- #26 -- (#32)

2013 - (23-12) -- #62 ---- #26 -- #65 ---- #30 -- (#50)

2014 - (28-8) ---- #39 ---- #10 -- #39 ---- #20 -- (#4)

2015 - (25-9) ---- #25 ---- #14 -- #32 ---- #16 -- (#6)

 

 

Take aways here

  1. McDermott left Iowa State in a shambles it seems, and even though his record in year 1 was lackluster, Hoiberg did in fact improve the team that year
  2. The turnaround there was shocking and nearly instantaneous
  3. Improvement was significant and sustained, look at the Strength of Schedule component!

 

 

 


 

 

So what do you guys think?  Comments are welcome.  If someone would like to go through and compile some recruiting rankings data, it would be interesting to compare the two.

Edited by 49r
Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

Seems like a mathematical impossibility that our 'final' was higher than our 'high' for 2019. 

 

2019 - Miles (19-17) -- #38 ---- #11 -- #45 ---- #47 ---- (#9)

 

Regular season high was #11.  Final ranking was #47.  #9 is Strength of Schedule.  

 

I admit the formatting isn't the best...sorry.

Edited by 49r
Posted

Say what you will about Doc (many have), but of the last 19 seasons, being a program that skews towards defense, Doc managed to put together our best defensive teams (according to KP). His three best seasons at NU record-wise, coincided with his team playing top 25 defense (KP's AdjD). Which, doing so in the B12, with the offensive talent that league had (Durant, Beasley, Griffin, the plethora of KU bluechips, etc) isn't too shabby.

Posted
3 hours ago, Searching 4 Chester Surles said:

If you look at Fred's offensive efficiency and tempo numbers at ISU, and Doc's defensive efficiency at NU, that combo looks mighty spicy.

 

Yeah, with essentially 3 head coaches and two crack recruiters on the staff I think we've got the bases pretty well covered...

Posted
3 hours ago, Searching 4 Chester Surles said:

Say what you will about Doc (many have), but of the last 19 seasons, being a program that skews towards defense, Doc managed to put together our best defensive teams (according to KP). His three best seasons at NU record-wise, coincided with his team playing top 25 defense (KP's AdjD). Which, doing so in the B12, with the offensive talent that league had (Durant, Beasley, Griffin, the plethora of KU bluechips, etc) isn't too shabby.

 

The ONLY issue Doc had (and it wasn't necessarily even his own fault) was his inability to recruit talent to come to NU.  IMHO.

Posted

Once Fred/Doc & Co. get this thing turned around “recruiting wise” it’s going to happen fast, as I think we’ve already seen. Then we’ll REALLY start to see the cache’ this staff has, the wins & recruits will pile one upon the other & Nebraska will become that “Sleeping Giant” of a program that people have been secretly frightened of  for years...

Posted
1 hour ago, Handy Johnson said:

Once Fred/Doc & Co. get this thing turned around “recruiting wise” it’s going to happen fast, as I think we’ve already seen. Then we’ll REALLY start to see the cache’ this staff has, the wins & recruits will pile one upon the other & Nebraska will become that “Sleeping Giant” of a program that people have been secretly frightened of  for years...

 

 

Nebrasketball is the Mizzou of the gridiron circa 2008.

Posted

Reminds me of why I supported Doc then and still do. 

He had that consistency with a bunch of 3 stars in a pretty tough league. 

The B1G was just hitting its peak, sadly for him, when we joined. 

 

I remember his departing press conference when he said he wanted to be the one to get NU its first win in the tourney.

He's probably going to achieve that after all, just not exactly how it was drawn up. It's like a Hallmark TV movie! 

 

 

Posted
38 minutes ago, jimmykc said:

Let us hope that Doc becomes the Moe Iba to Fred Hoiberg's Don Haskins, if you get my analogy. I certainly would accept a one-and-done national championship, a feel-good movie, and a basketball HOF head coach as an suitable goal for this regime.

I just wanna Jumbo Stiehm-roll e'erbody.

Posted
11 hours ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

 

Nebrasketball is the Mizzou of the gridiron circa 2008.

Our Basketball success will be more sustained and consistent & I will never EVER compare anything the "U" does to that hillbilly school in Colombia MO... so there

Posted
55 minutes ago, Handy Johnson said:

Our Basketball success will be more sustained and consistent & I will never EVER compare anything the "U" does to that hillbilly school in Colombia MO... so there

 

I was just about to say we might want to be careful what we wish for.  :Redface:

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

Mizzou went 12-1 back then in football, so yeah, whatever.....

 

 

I wasn’t trying to be “mean spirited” just pointing out that Mizzou’s ‘O8 success lasted about as long as a fart in the wind. I like to think what we accomplish here will be ongoing & lasting, not just a flash in the pan.

Edited by Handy Johnson
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Handy Johnson said:

I wasn’t trying to be “mean spirited” just pointing out that Mizzou’s ‘O8 success lasted about as long as a fart in the wind. I like to think what we accomplish here will be ongoing & lasting, not just a flash in the pan.

 

Oh, I know. I really meant to further mention the "sleeping giant" comment has been affixed to Mizzou football, much as it could be to Nebrasketball. It's all good, man.

 

 

 

Edited by AuroranHusker
  • 1 month later...
Posted

Updated OP with data back to 1997.

 

Year - Coach ----- Starting -- High -- Low -- Final -- (Strength of Schedule)

==============================================

1997 - Nee     (18-15) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #61 ---- (N/A)

1998 - Nee     (20-12) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #66 ---- (N/A)

1999 - Nee     (20-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #78 ---- (N/A)

2000 - Nee     (11-19) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #159 -- (N/A)

2001 - Collier (13-16) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #83 ---- (N/A)

2002 - Collier (13-15) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #103 -- (#75)

2003 - Collier (11-18) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #138 -- (#25)

2004 - Collier (18-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #40 ---- (#86)

2005 - Collier (14-14) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #80 ---- (#67)

2006 - Collier (19-14) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #111 -- (#90)

2007 - Sadler (17-14) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #82 ---- (#60)

2008 - Sadler (20-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #39 ---- (#69)

2009 - Sadler (18-13) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #63 ---- (#58)

2010 - Sadler (15-18) -- N/A -- N/A --- N/A --- #93 ---- (#47)

2011 - Sadler (19-13) -- #76 -- #34 --- #81 --- #64 ---- (#77)

2012 - Sadler (12-18) -- #53 -- #51 --- #158 -- #152 -- (#11)

2013 - Miles (15-18) -- #214 -- #127 - #218 -- #136 -- (#8)

2014 - Miles (19-13) -- #123 -- #44 -- #123 -- #56 ---- (#18)

2015 - Miles (13-18) -- #36 ---- #34 -- #131 -- #121 -- (#43)

2016 - Miles (16-18) -- #139 -- #79 -- #156 -- #85 ---- (#73)

2017 - Miles (12-19) -- #85 ---- #71 -- #105 -- #107 -- (#14)

2018 - Miles (22-11) -- #97 ---- #50 -- #114 -- #55 ---- (#59)

2019 - Miles (19-17) -- #38 ---- #11 -- #45 ---- #47 ---- (#9)

Posted
47 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

Some additional data available now on KenPom.com.

 

Only problem is it says our coach in 1997 was Don Newman.

 

I liked Don. I thought he was one of the best head men's basketball coaches we've ever had.  Too bad about that thing with the sheep.

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