OT: Creighton contacted by the seven Catholic schools leaving the Big East

[MidwestDrummer]

Atlantic 10 calls meeting in fear that teams could bolt in wake of Big East split

By LENN ROBBINS

Presidents of the Atlantic 10 conference have scheduled a meeting for next Thursday with the intent of solidifying commitments from its membership, The Post has learned

According to a person with direct knowledge of the meeting, the A-10, aware of the impending Big East split, is concerned that St. Louis, Dayton and Xavier have “one foot out the door.”

A Post source also said that Creighton has been contacted by representatives of the seven Catholic schools that are leaving the Big East. Those schools are seeking to bolster a “western division” that would include DePaul, Marquette and Creighton. Duquesne has also become a program of interest.

Read more: Atlantic 10 calls meeting in fear that teams could bolt in wake of Big East split - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/atlantic_calls_meeting_split_fear_SEbPDk4OGcgHjhwuNROIPO#ixzz2FBmrDXuf

[jimmykc]

It seems that Creighton would be a logical fit. And, by the way, I've heard that the Pope will be the new league's commissioner.

[cipsucks]

It seems that Creighton would be a logical fit. And, by the way, I've heard that the Pope will be the new league's commissioner.

Did the Pope tweet that?

[HuskerBB]

I am torn by Creighton's role in this development. It would appear to be a potentially huge possible opportunity for them as an athletic program. There are alot of good things about this if it happens for Creighton. But it would also put them at a whole new level as a program and in some ways make it more difficult to rebuild our program. Will be interesting to see how this develops. Obviously the 7 former Big East schools are going to be looking to add to their group and CU is one of the more obvious potential candidates althought there are other likely candidates as wll.

[cipsucks]

I like to occasionally check out Frank the Tank's take on college athletics. He always has well thought out postions, and he's been right several times when talking about conference realignment. He has a nice piece about the 7 Big East schools, but what I really found to be an interesting read is the article right below it he wrote about Florida State joining the B1G.

http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/

[uneblinstu]

It would be a great move for Creighton I think, and probably a no brainer if they have the opportunity to do that. Anything that would improve the visibility and quality of basketball in the state is a good thing. I'm not really worried about whether it makes things harder for NU or not, if Miles can show he's putting together a quality program together, Creighton shouldn't stand in the way of that. There's room in this state for both programs.

[HuskerCager]

I am torn by Creighton's role in this development. It would appear to be a potentially huge possible opportunity for them as an athletic program. There are alot of good things about this if it happens for Creighton. But it would also put them at a whole new level as a program and in some ways make it more difficult to rebuild our program. Will be interesting to see how this develops. Obviously the 7 former Big East schools are going to be looking to add to their group and CU is one of the more obvious potential candidates althought there are other likely candidates as wll.

Can it really get any more difficult to build our program than it is now? Let's say that Creighton becomes the school of choice among Nebraska players. All that happens is players start going to CU instead of Iowa, Kansas, Louisville, etc. We haven't been getting players from Nebraska anyway.

[Norm Peterson]

I am torn by Creighton's role in this development. It would appear to be a potentially huge possible opportunity for them as an athletic program. There are a lot of good things about this if it happens for Creighton. But it would also put them at a whole new level as a program and in some ways make it more difficult to rebuild our program. Will be interesting to see how this develops. Obviously the 7 former Big East schools are going to be looking to add to their group and CU is one of the more obvious potential candidates although there are other likely candidates as well.

It will also make it a lot more difficult for them to dominate their league. Annual trips to the NCAAs won't be such a sure thing for them in a league that features the likes of Xavier, Marquette, etc. etc. We might actually have a better time rebuilding against a middle-of-the-pack Catholic League school within our state than the best Mo Valley team.

[Badgett Fan]

It would be a great move for Creighton I think, and probably a no brainer if they have the opportunity to do that. Anything that would improve the visibility and quality of basketball in the state is a good thing. I'm not really worried about whether it makes things harder for NU or not, if Miles can show he's putting together a quality program together, Creighton shouldn't stand in the way of that. There's room in this state for both programs.

Absolutely. I want the move and think Creighton will ultimately end up in whatever that league ends up looking like, and don't see how it hurts anything other than the ability of some Huskers fans to use conference affiliation as a means by which to negate some of Creighton's accomplishments.

Nebraska plays in a great conference, and that's not impacted by a move, if it happens. Plus, the new league will still be a step down from the top 2 or 3 leagues every year. It will be a better version of what the MWC or A-10 are at their best.

Future Nebrasketballers are mostly going to come from places outside of Nebraska, so what in-state kids think doesn't matter much.

Teams can only have 13 scholarship players, so its not as if a Big Priest Conference Creighton is going to steal much if anything from Miles or any subsequent Huskers coaches.

Finally, I think competition between the programs is good for both of them. Creighton's success over the past 15 years has not been responsible for Nebraska's mediocrity. If Nebraska starts to get considerably better, that success is not going to result in Creighton becoming irrelevant, whatever league they're in. They'll both succeed or struggle based on their own merits. Show me a state where this isn't the case with the state's bigger programs.

Of course, nothing may come of all this talk, as far as CU is concerned.

[Norm Peterson]

Here's an idea. A league of Catholic schools that don't field football programs would be an ideal conference for Notre Dame to join for all sports except football. They could maintain an independent football program -- which they want -- and still have a league that would involve schools with which they share some geography and other characteristics.

[Badgett Fan]

I am torn by Creighton's role in this development. It would appear to be a potentially huge possible opportunity for them as an athletic program. There are a lot of good things about this if it happens for Creighton. But it would also put them at a whole new level as a program and in some ways make it more difficult to rebuild our program. Will be interesting to see how this develops. Obviously the 7 former Big East schools are going to be looking to add to their group and CU is one of the more obvious potential candidates although there are other likely candidates as well.

It will also make it a lot more difficult for them to dominate their league. Annual trips to the NCAAs won't be such a sure thing for them in a league that features the likes of Xavier, Marquette, etc. etc. We might actually have a better time rebuilding against a middle-of-the-pack Catholic League school within our state than the best Mo Valley team.

The first part is true, I just really disagree that what the Huskers do has much to with what's happening in Omaha.

[Huskerpapa]

Isn't this in the wrong section? Perhaps one of the mods can move this to where it actually belongs.

[kldm64]

I personally don't care what Creighton does as it won't have any impact on NU. I'd welcome it if they actually had to play in a tougher conference and not get an automatic bid most years to tournament by winning a weak MVC. I get tired of hearing about their resume of NCAA bids. NU would have more bids on their resume as well if they played in MVC as well. This new "big east" baskeball conference still won't be a good as Big 10 or ACC but it will be an improvement in competition for the Jays. They better strike while the iron is hot as in 2 year, they won't have McDermott anymore and their stock will drop dramatically.

[jimmykc]

It is also rumored that the teams will have taller rosters than any other league since the commissioner has mandated that all players must wear hats like he wears.

[HuskerFever]

I personally don't care what Creighton does as it won't have any impact on NU.

Take Wisconsin and Marquette for example. They both recruit entirely different athletes.

[Norm Peterson]

I personally don't care what Creighton does as it won't have any impact on NU.

Take Wisconsin and Marquette for example. They both recruit entirely different athletes.

Creighton is sitting there right now with a signed LOI from a 2013 power forward WE offered. It's naive to think that what goes on in Omaha has no effect on us. Back when Nebraska was the big thing in hoops in the state, we got the players out of Omaha if/when there were any. With Altman's success at Creighton, that started changing. I'm not saying that Creighton success will prevent Husker success or the other way around. But it does have an effect. There are a lot of kids whose names show up on both of our lists and we want to get more of those kids than they do.

[hhcmatt]

Creighton is sitting there right now with a signed LOI from a 2013 power forward WE offered. It's naive to think that what goes on in Omaha has no effect on us. Back when Nebraska was the big thing in hoops in the state, we got the players out of Omaha if/when there were any. With Altman's success at Creighton, that started changing. I'm not saying that Creighton success will prevent Husker success or the other way around. But it does have an effect. There are a lot of kids whose names show up on both of our lists and we want to get more of those kids than they do.

When we're talking about the handful of Div I players in Nebraska, I think the overall strength of Creighton is a concern for us if you're looking to join the currently most successful in-state school. However, as we know it's not like we're loaded up with Div I talent in the first place so it's doesn't mean the difference between one of us succeeding or not.

While we're going to have guys that we both recruit, at the end of the day there might be one guy a year if that who chooses between Creighton and Nebraska because they're simply so different. Creighton is a small private Jesuit school in a major metropolitan area who plays in the MVC. We're the opposite in many ways.

Here is an impossible question I find interesting: Assume in the next 3 years that Nebraska becomes an NCAA team and Creighton joins the Big East basketball league. Would Akoy Agau have picked one or both of those over Louisville?

[Norm Peterson]

I think it's entirely possible that one of the reasons Akoy chose Louisville is so that he didn't have to choose between Creighton and Nebraska and risk letting down friends or acquaintances who wanted him to go to one or the other. If he'd chosen Nebraska, there would have been plenty of Omahans criticizing him for not considering Creighton and, if he had considered Creighton and picked them, probably same thing in reverse. But neither set of fans can really criticize him for choosing Louisville.

If you look at his twitter feed, that's kind of how it was.

[Creighton Fan]

Norm, I think you have a point to a degree.

Where they may actually be a benefit for you guys is that if Creighton jumps conferences, it may help overall exposure for basketball in the area. That may lead to more instate talent in the future as more kids gravitate toward basketball. Both programs need there to be more instate talent to be competitive long term.

As to the questions about Agau, I don't think he would have stayed here no matter what after he got the Louisville offer.

[huskerbaseball13]

Atlantic 10 calls meeting in fear that teams could bolt in wake of Big East split

By LENN ROBBINS

Presidents of the Atlantic 10 conference have scheduled a meeting for next Thursday with the intent of solidifying commitments from its membership, The Post has learned

According to a person with direct knowledge of the meeting, the A-10, aware of the impending Big East split, is concerned that St. Louis, Dayton and Xavier have “one foot out the door.”

A Post source also said that Creighton has been contacted by representatives of the seven Catholic schools that are leaving the Big East. Those schools are seeking to bolster a “western division” that would include DePaul, Marquette and Creighton. Duquesne has also become a program of interest.

Read more: Atlantic 10 calls meeting in fear that teams could bolt in wake of Big East split - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.co...O#ixzz2FBmrDXuf

Would LOVE for this to happen. It would kill Creighton's baseball program. Really would not help out Nebraska much regarding baseball as we already get our pick of the litter of instate talent. But, the 5 fans that program has was pretty vocal when Nebraska moved to the Big 10 saying it would be the end of NU baseball because nobody would want to play us and recruiting would take a major hit. Those have both proven to be false in a VERY short amount of time. Nebraska may play the hardest non-con schedule in the NCAA this year...plus preseason ranked #1 Arkansas is visiting Lincoln. Texas is rumored to make a return trip next year. Also, this staff has brought in quite possibly one of the best recruiting classes in a long time. They are bulldogs on the recruiting trail

Creighton would make the jump for the money....and it would bring more recognition to their team and league. As right now nobody really gives a damn about the Mo Valley. With that said, the drawbacks are there also. Every single team in that conference will be willing to spend spend spend on basketball.......and every other team will have a local recruiting base to recruit from. Creighton does not have that...and in the Valley Creighton has advantages over other schools when it comes to spending and facilities. That will no longer be the case...they will not have to play a grinding schedule instead of playing cream puffs every other game in league play.

[Tony]

Atlantic 10 calls meeting in fear that teams could bolt in wake of Big East split

By LENN ROBBINS

Presidents of the Atlantic 10 conference have scheduled a meeting for next Thursday with the intent of solidifying commitments from its membership, The Post has learned

According to a person with direct knowledge of the meeting, the A-10, aware of the impending Big East split, is concerned that St. Louis, Dayton and Xavier have “one foot out the door.”

A Post source also said that Creighton has been contacted by representatives of the seven Catholic schools that are leaving the Big East. Those schools are seeking to bolster a “western division” that would include DePaul, Marquette and Creighton. Duquesne has also become a program of interest.

Read more: Atlantic 10 calls meeting in fear that teams could bolt in wake of Big East split - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.co...O#ixzz2FBmrDXuf

Would LOVE for this to happen. It would kill Creighton's baseball program. Really would not help out Nebraska much regarding baseball as we already get our pick of the litter of instate talent. But, the 5 fans that program has was pretty vocal when Nebraska moved to the Big 10 saying it would be the end of NU baseball because nobody would want to play us and recruiting would take a major hit. Those have both proven to be false in a VERY short amount of time. Nebraska may play the hardest non-con schedule in the NCAA this year...plus preseason ranked #1 Arkansas is visiting Lincoln. Texas is rumored to make a return trip next year. Also, this staff has brought in quite possibly one of the best recruiting classes in a long time. They are bulldogs on the recruiting trail

Creighton would make the jump for the money....and it would bring more recognition to their team and league. As right now nobody really gives a damn about the Mo Valley. With that said, the drawbacks are there also. Every single team in that conference will be willing to spend spend spend on basketball.......and every other team will have a local recruiting base to recruit from. Creighton does not have that...and in the Valley Creighton has advantages over other schools when it comes to spending and facilities. That will no longer be the case...they will not have to play a grinding schedule instead of playing cream puffs every other game in league play.

Gosh, it must be nice to know everything and be so smart; even being able to predict the future for Nebraska and Creighton.

[huskerbaseball13]

Tony you must be mistaken. This is the NU board. Not the Creighton board. Thus, everyone on this board doesn't believe they know everything. You=Mad.

[hhcmatt]

You're right. I will go away.

[49r]

Well, it's looking more and more like this is gonna happen.

 

I, for one, am glad to see it.  Adds some legitamacy to our schedule, and basketball excitement to our state.  It'll be fun when we'll have weekends in February where Nebraska's playing Michigan and Creighton's got a game vs. Georgetown.

 

And, it's got me thinking...there'll end up being some other movement to fill slots in the A-10 and MVC that will be left behind.  I think it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to see some current MVC members slide up to the A-10 and schools like UNO or South Dakota State from the Summit move to the MVC.

[Creighton Fan]

Well, it's looking more and more like this is gonna happen.

 

I, for one, am glad to see it.  Adds some legitamacy to our schedule, and basketball excitement to our state.  It'll be fun when we'll have weekends in February where Nebraska's playing Michigan and Creighton's got a game vs. Georgetown.

 

And, it's got me thinking...there'll end up being some other movement to fill slots in the A-10 and MVC that will be left behind.  I think it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to see some current MVC members slide up to the A-10 and schools like UNO or South Dakota State from the Summit move to the MVC.

I agree that it is very good for the state and Omaha in particular.  Maybe it will work to improve basketball development in the area?  Both of us could certainly benefit from more D1 caliber players.

 

UNO is not ready to move up and probably wouldn't be for at least a decade (they aren't even out of their probationary period yet).  If any teams from nearby were to join the MVC, the Dakota St schools would probably be the most likely, but I don't even see that happening because it would upset the football/nonfootball balance in the league.