Nebraska is defrosted

[uneblinstu]

  On 10/3/2022 at 4:21 PM, hskr4life said:

I think with the addition of NIL, nearly unlimited transfer opportunity (with the opportunity to play right away), and the ability to “win now” (see KU)— you’re going to start to see more of this moving forward. 
 

We’ll be the norm and not the exception of a few years at most.

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I don't think NIL is the driving factor in the mid-season firings. It's the early transfer window. I think you'll see a significant adjustment to that fairly quickly to try to curb the mid-season canning.

[hhcmatt]

  On 10/3/2022 at 6:01 PM, uneblinstu said:

I don't think NIL is the driving factor in the mid-season firings. It's the early transfer window. I think you'll see a significant adjustment to that fairly quickly to try to curb the mid-season canning.

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Agree. Seems much more likely that Wisconsin wants to see what it has in Jim Leonhard and/or it's new AD needs to make a move syndrome. 

[Huskerpapa]

  On 10/3/2022 at 7:12 PM, hhcmatt said:

 

Agree. Seems much more likely that Wisconsin wants to see what it has in Jim Leonhard and/or it's new AD needs to make a move syndrome. 

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My feeling was that they knew Leonhard was on many lists of up and comers.  They may have been pushed a little towards making their change.

[HuskerFever]

  On 10/3/2022 at 9:37 PM, Huskerpapa said:

  On 10/3/2022 at 7:12 PM, hhcmatt said:

 

Agree. Seems much more likely that Wisconsin wants to see what it has in Jim Leonhard and/or it's new AD needs to make a move syndrome. 

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My feeling was that they knew Leonhard was on many lists of up and comers.  They may have been pushed a little towards making their change.

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Or is it to get ahead of the line for Wisconsin born-bred-and-coached, Lance Leipold?

[Handy Johnson]

Bucky should  hire Brett Favre, that might be the last State left where he could get a job. 

[basketballjones]

  On 10/3/2022 at 9:37 PM, Huskerpapa said:

My feeling was that they knew Leonhard was on many lists of up and comers.  They may have been pushed a little towards making their change.

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If they wanted him, envisioned him there in the future, it was a ruthless but necessary decision. Not sure it will pay-off for them - getting your butt whipped as a young coach at a big school you weren't ready for can be a career ender. 

[49r]

  On 10/4/2022 at 2:29 PM, basketballjones said:

If they wanted him, envisioned him there in the future, it was a ruthless but necessary decision. Not sure it will pay-off for them - getting your butt whipped as a young coach at a big school you weren't ready for can be a career ender. 

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We speak from experience here.

[Handy Johnson]

  On 10/4/2022 at 2:40 PM, 49r said:

 

We speak from experience here.

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I remember Frost’s first Presser when he crowed to the B1G “you better get us now cuz year 2 will be too late” or something to that affect & how HAPPY I was to hear it…

[49r]

  On 10/5/2022 at 4:18 AM, Handy Johnson said:

I remember Frost’s first Presser when he crowed to the B1G “you better get us now cuz year 2 will be too late” or something to that affect & how HAPPY I was to hear it…

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My reaction (and I suppose the rest of the Big Ten's too) was basically this:

 

 

[HuskerFever]

I'd imagine this name will make it's rounds in the college football landscape:

 

 

[Huskerpapa]

  On 10/10/2022 at 3:47 PM, HuskerFever said:

I'd imagine this name will make it's rounds in the college football landscape:

 

 

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His name was making the rounds before he was fired...this simply frees up his agent to the forthcoming conversations and overtures.

[HuskerFever]

I guess we'll get to see what mess Moos committed to:

 

 

[Huskerpapa]

  On 10/18/2022 at 11:31 PM, HuskerFever said:

I guess we'll get to see what mess Moos committed to:

 

 

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If I understand correctly, the request is for the metrics that Trev and Frost agreed to.  Interestingly, they cannot locate Fred's.  Apparently his was verbal only...

[HB]

  On 10/18/2022 at 11:31 PM, HuskerFever said:

I guess we'll get to see what mess Moos committed to:

 

 

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No, this was about the metrics in the revised contract last year with Trev.  

[nustudent]

Trev said 6 wins tonight 

[HuskerFever]

Appreciate the clarification!

 

So does this put more insight into whether Trev wanted him gone last season? Or what the benchmark was to keep his job?

[throwback]

I believe Trev said tonight he would've preferred to have Frost's metrics be "verbal" only, but Frost wanted them in writing. 

 

I took that to mean that Fred's metrics are probably verbal only, since Trev didn't discuss them in detail.

 

Also, it's important to remember that Frost's 6 win/bowl game metric was just to return to his old salary. Not to keep his job (clearly). Assuming Fred's metrics are in a similar position, it only matters to the accountants in the athletic dept what those metrics are. They don't necessarily mean he keeps his job if he hits them.  

 

[hhcmatt]

  On 10/19/2022 at 2:05 AM, throwback said:

I believe Trev said tonight he would've preferred to have Frost's metrics be "verbal" only, but Frost wanted them in writing. 

 

I took that to mean that Fred's metrics are probably verbal only, since Trev didn't discuss them in detail.

 

Also, it's important to remember that Frost's 6 win/bowl game metric was just to return to his old salary. Not to keep his job (clearly). Assuming Fred's metrics are in a similar position, it only matters to the accountants in the athletic dept what those metrics are. They don't necessarily mean he keeps his job if he hits them.  

 

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It likely was 'make the postseason, revert your salary back' followed by a hand shake

[hhcmatt]

Now I get why he wanted that in writing

 

 

[cornfed24-7]

  On 10/21/2022 at 7:20 PM, hhcmatt said:

Now I get why he wanted that in writing

 

 

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Yup. Also makes sense to me why Hoiberg would be ok with a verbal agreement since he already came into this job with 10's of millions of dollars.

[49r]

  On 10/21/2022 at 7:58 PM, cornfed24-7 said:

Yup. Also makes sense to me why Hoiberg would be ok with a verbal agreement since he already came into this job with 10's of millions of dollars.

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It's not like Scott was on welfare coming in though, let's be real.

[cornfed24-7]

  On 10/21/2022 at 8:53 PM, 49r said:

 

It's not like Scott was on welfare coming in though, let's be real.

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I get it. But the type of money that Hoiberg came into this job with was in a different area code than Frost. Both of which are on a different planet than me and 99.9% of the rest of us. 

[Cowboy Kermit]

  On 10/21/2022 at 9:22 PM, cornfed24-7 said:

I get it. But the type of money that Hoiberg came into this job with was in a different area code than Frost. Both of which are on a different planet than me and 99.9% of the rest of us. 

Hoiberg is a professional coach who had been fired from coaching before. Frost well. Was neither of those things.

[aphilso1]

I see rumor mill topics popping up on the Nebraska Rivals message board today.  I don't have access to those boards, so can only guess what they mean.  New subjects include:

 

Matt Rhule -Thoughts?

Something Going Down Today?

Smoke in north stadium

 

Putting that together, and it seems people are expecting Rhule to be announced as the new football HC today.  Anyone hearing these rumblings?

[Norm Peterson]

There was a bunch of twitter traffic that speculated it was Mickey Joseph who would be named HC. I laughed.