USC & UCLA TO JOIN BIG TEN (beginning 2024)!

[hhcmatt]

 

[HuskerFever]

12 hours ago, cipsucks said:

15 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

One issue is that late games in the current set up, loses the East Coast audience.   A 7 PM start on the Pacific Coast, is 10 PM in NY.  

 

Very good point.  The time zone thing is manageable with just USC and UCLA.  You would have only a few late games. 

 

If that is a concern with the BIG, although I poo pooed the idea at first, Clemson and Florida State might be in the mix.  That would also open the door for Notre Dame and dare I say @jimmykc alma mater?  I think that makes a great 20 team super conference.

 

It's a challenge. Because ideally you want to play earlier west coast games, but I know some friends from places like Arizona State and it's 100+ degrees some days at noon during football season. Which is why they play their games so late. It's a balance between safety and optimal viewership timeslots.

[UnicamMan]

How should basketball scheduling work with the new Big 10? 

If the conference expands to 20 members do we do a 19 game conference season (instead of the current 20 game?) and just play everyone once, or keep it at 20 and play everyone once and everyone gets one protected rival for a home and home?  Or is there some kind of division or pod system?  

[jayschool]

1 hour ago, UnicamMan said:

How should basketball scheduling work with the new Big 10? 

If the conference expands to 20 members do we do a 19 game conference season (instead of the current 20 game?) and just play everyone once, or keep it at 20 and play everyone once and everyone gets one protected rival for a home and home?  Or is there some kind of division or pod system?  

I would suggest an Iowa/Minnesota/Illinois/etc. fan's wet dream and divide the Big 20 into the Big 10 and the Other 10. Maybe call them Original Recipe and Extra Crispy divisions.

 

Football is simple: play the other nine teams in your division. Winners face off in the title game. Traditionalists who have been whining about expansion would love this.

 

In basketball, all schools play their division mates in an 18-game round-robin and toss in a couple of crossover games. If any rivalries have developed over the past decade, play those — Iowa-Nebraska, Rutgers-Penn State, for example.

 

Of course, Nebraska's travel would be the most difficult, being in a division with California, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Maryland, PSU and Rutgers. But that can be mitigated with two-game weekends: Cal/Stanford, USC/UCLA, Oregon/Washington, Rutgers/Maryland. It's never easy to get to State College, so that is what it is.

 

The Pac-12 has been doing this sort of doubleheader scheduling for at least 70 years, so it's no biggie for them.

Edited August 3, 2023 by jayschool

[hhcmatt]

U of Washington

 

 

[hhcmatt]

Boils down to how much TV money these guys get

 

[Dead Dog Alley]

8 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

 

It's a challenge. Because ideally you want to play earlier west coast games, but I know some friends from places like Arizona State and it's 100+ degrees some days at noon during football season. Which is why they play their games so late. It's a balance between safety and optimal viewership timeslots.

 

You'll quickly figure out which players can handle the heat by finding out which ones don't die.  This new generation, they are soft.

[cipsucks]

If the B1G does end up adding the 4 Pac schools, it makes Big Ten baseball respectable. Volleyball would be off the charts.  

[HuskerFever]

 

[HuskerFever]

They call this fluid...

 

 

[throwback]

McMurphy says it's a done deal and B1G presidents will vote later today for UO and UW.

 

Good thing they don't do the hoops schedules too early - looks like they'll have to redo the 2024 football matchups.

 

More expansion is possible as well.

 

B1G hoops tourney is going to start to look more like an AAU weekend tournament.

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by throwback

[cornfed24-7]

I am a traditionalist in the sense I long for going back to, a minimum, the days of Big 12. Preferably the days of the Big 8. That is what, I think, the lens of history will view as when college athletics was perfect.

 

Having said that. I LOVE adding UO and UW. The past is dead! I hope they get right back on it after these 2 additions and figure out how to get Stanford, Cal, FSU, and Miami. To paraphrase Bruce Willis in "Armageddon" "You guys are the Big Ten. You probably have a room of people right now just thinking shit up. And a group behind them just thinking shit up."

 

The time of super conferences is upon us! Get it done Big Ten. 

Edited August 4, 2023 by cornfed24-7

[hhcmatt]

Florida St isn't joining the B1G. That's a SEC school waiting to happen.

[BugeaterZ]

Not sure Florida agrees with you, they want to be the only SEC team in the state. Clemson may be similar.

 

That said, I'd be happy to add Miami and North Carolina and let those two go to the SEC. B1G presidents probably want to take a long look at Virginia. 

 

I think Stanford gets in only if they are a condition of getting Notre Dame. 

 

I hope they stop at 20.

[cornfed24-7]

6 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Florida St isn't joining the B1G. That's a SEC school waiting to happen.

Yeah I'm not so sure about that. I keep seeing a bunch of articles with people mentioning FSU to the SEC is a non starter because of Florida. Is see the same thing about Clemson because of the Gamecocks. Now I have no idea how the SEC bylaws work. If Florida or South Carolina has veto power? Maybe the calcus has drastically changed recently. But I do see this mentioned frequently. 

[hhcmatt]

Testing out the phrase "Power 4 offer"

[MichHusker]

Expanding beyond 20 may provide the opportunity to get some semblance of regionality again, exept the regional conferences would just be divisions

[cornfed24-7]

Just now, hhcmatt said:

Testing out the phrase "Power 4 offer"

Should probably tweek that to "Power 3”

[hskr4life]

From the sounds of it… Notre Dame doesn’t want to go anywhere… but will their hand be forced?

[hhcmatt]

Just now, hskr4life said:

From the sounds of it… Notre Dame doesn’t want to go anywhere… but will their hand be forced?

 

Why would you join a 16 team mega-conference if you didn't join 10 team conferences? 

[cornfed24-7]

1 minute ago, MichHusker said:

Expanding beyond 20 may provide the opportunity to get some semblance of regionality again, exept the regional conferences would just be divisions

This is my thought. I think 24 is the magic number. 6, 4 team pods, or 4, 6 team pods, or 3, 8 team divisions, or 2, 12 team divisions. 

[cornfed24-7]

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Why would you join a 16 team mega-conference if you didn't join 10 team conferences? 

Because I think we're talking about, at least, 20 team mega divisions. And when those divisions start scheduling it's gonna be conference games and sacrificial lambs only. 

[Keenan9595]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38134021/big-ten-set-send-invites-oregon-washington-sources-say
 

the fact that ESPN is reporting on it and it’s like the 3rd thing that comes up tells me it’s basically ready to be announced in the next 24 hours.  

[hhcmatt]

10 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

Because I think we're talking about, at least, 20 team mega divisions. And when those divisions start scheduling it's gonna be conference games and sacrificial lambs only. 

 

As long as Notre Dame football can get TV contracts comparable to splitting a pie 10 ways or a bigger pie 20 ways they'll stay independent. Just that simple.

[hhcmatt]

Until the B1G signs a non-at-the-time AAU school, they are a conference that doesn't sign non-AAU schools like Florida St.  While I suppose that Florida St could join the Big 12 or something, the SEC makes a ton of sense regardless of what Florida thinks because conferences are always growing or dying.  That's my opinion on Florida St until something happens with that school changes it.

 

Speaking of AAU, if Miami was available that's a school that the B1G would look at.