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cornfed24-7

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10 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Let's not overblow this too much. Had some of our prior coaches had 20-game conference seasons, there's a chance Miles could have had 4 20-loss seasons, Sadler with 2, Collier with 2, Nee with 4, etc.

Don't think you can overblow the level of suck Hoiberg has achieved. 

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kldm64
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Like Tim or not, you are 100% correct.  Tim make it cool to be a Nebraska Basketball fan and no other coach in the past 30 years you can say that about.  One of my favorite lines from Tim was if the p

Rickyd
Rickyd

He should owe us money!!!  What a waste buying guys like him out all of the time to leave us with a shambled program......again!

hhcmatt
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The thing about glossing over the bad stuff and just remembering the good stuff of the Tim Miles era is that he had good stuff. 

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HuskerFever

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2 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

Don't think you can overblow the level of suck Hoiberg has achieved. 

 

Completely agree on that point. I mean, I pointed out the fact that he's statistically the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history (men's and women's).

 

But cherry picking "ESPN" stats can be misleading. Yes, he has 20-loss seasons in every year but given a 20-conference slate with even recent coaches, it likely isn't as uncommon as the OP has alluded to.

AuroranHusker

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19 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Let's not overblow this too much. Had some of our prior coaches had 20-game conference seasons, there's a chance Miles could have had 4 20-loss seasons, Sadler with 2, Collier with 2, Nee with 4, etc.

 

But, they didn't; Nebraska basketball has been around a really long time, and it hadn't happened. Yes, even Danny Nee had a 19-loss season, but it wasn't 20. It doesn't have to be complicated. So, now, Fred has a 25-loss, 20-loss (in a shortened season), and already 19 losses this year. That's pretty awful, no matter how you look at the history of NU hoops.

cornfed24-7

cornfed24-7

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4 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Completely agree on that point. I mean, I pointed out the fact that he's statistically the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history (men's and women's).

 

But cherry picking "ESPN" stats can be misleading. Yes, he has 20-loss seasons in every year but given a 20-conference slate with even recent coaches, it likely isn't as uncommon as the OP has alluded to.

To do it 3 years running is not common. 

 

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busticket

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There isn’t enough lipstick to put on this pig.  Fred is mind blowingly bad.  
 

I honestly still have a hard time wrapping my head around it.  The only thing that makes sense to me is not having a lieutenant that can keep the kids in line.  Nobody is a disciplinarian on the team.  And that is why we are horrible at the effort and fundamentals.  I know this has been said many times before…I think saying it out loud is cathartic at this point.

HuskerFever

HuskerFever

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Just now, cornfed24-7 said:
2 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Nobody said it was.

Nobody?

"...but given a 20-conference slate with even recent coaches, it likely isn't as uncommon as the OP has alluded to."

 

I said that a with a 20-conference slate, it wouldn't be all that common for those coaches to have experience a 20-loss season.

 

Nobody said that 3 years of 20-loss seasons was common.

 

Understand what the argument is before introducing completely different arguments.

cornfed24-7

cornfed24-7

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1 minute ago, HuskerFever said:

 

I said that a with a 20-conference slate, it wouldn't be all that common for those coaches to have experience a 20-loss season.

 

Nobody said that 3 years of 20-loss seasons was common.

 

Understand what the argument is before introducing completely different arguments.

Making that argument in the context of what is happening here is misleading at best. 

cornfed24-7

cornfed24-7

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Just now, HuskerFever said:

 

Once again. I'm not arguing that Hoiberg is the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history.

I am not saying you are. But you are arguing that stats were cherry picked and that other coaches would have probably achieved this same feat had the conference slate been expanded when they coached. The only one cherry picking to support an argument is you. And you are doing it with a senario that doesn't exist. Its a nice little strawman.

HuskerFever

HuskerFever

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4 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

I am not saying you are. But you are arguing that stats were cherry picked and that other coaches would have probably achieved this same feat had the conference slate been expanded when they coached. The only one cherry picking to support an argument is you. And you are doing it with a senario that doesn't exist. Its a nice little strawman.

 

I said there was a chance it would have occurred given similar scenarios. I work around data all the time and environment and context matters. I felt this additional context was relevant and mentioned such. That is all.

 

I'm not sure why this got so much attention, and I guess I'm still a bit confused by that, if I struck something or not. No bad blood, whatsoever, definitely appreciate your contributions on this board.

cornfed24-7

cornfed24-7

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2 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

I said there was a chance it would have occurred given similar scenarios. I work around data all the time and environment and context matters. I felt this additional context was relevant and mentioned such. That is all.

 

I'm not sure why this got so much attention, and I guess I'm still a bit confused by that, if I struck something or not. No bad blood, whatsoever, definitely appreciate your contributions on this board.

No bad blood man. Just the perfect coffee buzz 😀. I appreciate your contributions as well and absoulutle LOVE the stats breakdowns you provide 😍

HB

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36 minutes ago, FredsSlacks said:

tim could never put together a complete team during his time here. he could get you 3 ballers then the rest of the team would be scrubs.

As opposed to the "ballers" we're throwing out there now?  

Huskerpapa

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59 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Completely agree on that point. I mean, I pointed out the fact that he's statistically the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history (men's and women's).

 

But cherry picking "ESPN" stats can be misleading. Yes, he has 20-loss seasons in every year but given a 20-conference slate with even recent coaches, it likely isn't as uncommon as the OP has alluded to.

I am humbly sorry.  But I have attended Husker basketball for five decades, this is the worst product I have watched on the floor.  Sad. 

Shoot, we have had teams with 6'5" centers (Larry Cox) and walk ons as major contributors perform at a higher level.  At least they played hard, played with pride and passion.

This is squarely on the coaches lap  

Huskerpapa

Huskerpapa

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25 minutes ago, cipsucks said:

 

You might have posted this in the wrong forum.....  

 

Actually no, I was referencing the cherry picking of ESPN stats arguments.  My jest was to indicate my eyes and recall of five decades of Husker basketball tells me we are seeing these bottom rung of husker basketball this season.

Handy Johnson

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1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

Actually no, I was referencing the cherry picking of ESPN stats arguments.  My jest was to indicate my eyes and recall of five decades of Husker basketball tells me we are seeing these bottom rung of husker basketball this season.

I think Cip might have been referring to the Women’s program & Coach “Love”…

Handy Johnson

Handy Johnson

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28 minutes ago, coughunter said:

Is that all we expect out of this program? Coaches who win 14 games a year and still finish in the bottom 4 of the conference?

Miles 4th place finishes & 19 win season are somehow an anomaly, yet the other 4 years are PROOF that he can’t Coach. Help me understand that…

BannedAccount

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1 hour ago, Handy Johnson said:

Miles 4th place finishes & 19 win season are somehow an anomaly, yet the other 4 years are PROOF that he can’t Coach. Help me understand that…

2 out of 7 years above last 4 teams... i guess i dont get how 5 years at the bottom of the conference is acceptable 

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