Nebrasketballer Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 basketballjones and busticket 2 Quote
Keenan9595 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 It might just be me but this is super awesome to me because we technically recruited a freshman who has a whole season of conditioning, playing time in a good league and strength conditioning at the college level. 4 years of eligibility is a big deal!!! It’s like having an evolved Pokémon without all the leveling up (sorry to the non-nerds and old people on here.) Swan88, millerhusker, busticket and 5 others 2 1 5 Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Keenan9595 said: It might just be me but this is super awesome to me because we technically recruited a freshman who has a whole season of conditioning, playing time in a good league and strength conditioning at the college level. 4 years of eligibility is a big deal!!! It’s like having an evolved Pokémon without all the leveling up (sorry to the non-nerds and old people on here.) Also a younger brother currently ranked as a 5-star. Similar to Trey/Bryce McGowens... I like Hoiberg’s strategy of recruiting big time transfers from solid basketball programs in big time basketball conferences that can then recruit their 5-star younger brothers to Nebraska. Silverbacked1, Keenan9595 and Red Don 2 1 Quote
Keenan9595 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Nebrasketballer said: Also a younger brother currently ranked as a 5-star. Similar to Trey/Bryce McGowens... I like Hoiberg’s strategy of recruiting big time transfers from solid basketball programs in big time basketball conferences that can then recruit their 5-star younger brothers to Nebraska. Oh no doubt, I’m just very happy with getting a dude who doesn’t have to take a year or two to start to develops physically, he’s already started that process and can shoot. The brother thing doesn’t hurt either. :) Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, Keenan9595 said: It might just be me but this is super awesome to me because we technically recruited a freshman who has a whole season of conditioning, playing time in a good league and strength conditioning at the college level. 4 years of eligibility is a big deal!!! It’s like having an evolved Pokémon without all the leveling up (sorry to the non-nerds and old people on here.) Fullbacksympathy, CanadianHusker, Keenan9595 and 1 other 4 Quote
Keenan9595 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, hhcmatt said: Here. I’ll put it this way. It’s like being able to dance the Charleston without having to work on a WW2 navel ship for 4 years to work on your cardio. Fullbacksympathy 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Keenan9595 said: Here. I’ll put it this way. It’s like being able to dance the Charleston without having to work on a WW2 navel ship for 4 years to work on your cardio. Keenan9595 and Fullbacksympathy 2 Quote
busticket Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 Love this get. Now we have, at least on paper, three serious three point threats coming in. We badly need guys who can stroke it. Was already a great group coming in....and now we add another big piece. Love it! Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
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throwback Posted June 15, 2021 Report Posted June 15, 2021 Heard on a couple of different radio shows today that CJ, along with Bryce, has been very impressive through the first week - better than expected. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted June 15, 2021 Report Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, throwback said: Heard on a couple of different radio shows today that CJ, along with Bryce, has been very impressive through the first week - better than expected. Excellent news thus far. NU will go far with tough, top-notch players (and recruits) such as CJ (and hopefully Simeon) & the McGowens brothers. GBR Quote
Norm Peterson Posted June 15, 2021 Report Posted June 15, 2021 I look at CJ as having some of the same skills as Teddy Allen without some of the baggage. I think they're very similar in terms of size, skillset, athleticism (or lack thereof -- both a little less explosive than other high majors), and craftiness with scoring the ball. The big difference, from what I can see, is that CJ fits our system better from a team-player perspective. He might not have explosive footspeed, but he has a lightning-quick release and ample accuracy. He doesn't seem like a guy who demands the ball in his hands like Teddy did, not the one who insists on initiating the offense, and therefore the ball doesn't stop in his hands. But when he gets the ball in catch-and-shoot situations, it's gone. You were standing right next to him and you were still too late to close out. I guess time will tell whether my perceptions are accurate or not, but I kind of look at CJ as being a rich man's Teddy Allen. Or, conversely, looking at Teddy as being a poor man's CJ Wilcher. Swan88 and jayschool 2 Quote
Red Don Posted June 15, 2021 Report Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said: I look at CJ as having some of the same skills as Teddy Allen without some of the baggage. I think they're very similar in terms of size, skillset, athleticism (or lack thereof -- both a little less explosive than other high majors), and craftiness with scoring the ball....................the ball doesn't stop in his hands. But when he gets the ball in catch-and-shoot situations, it's gone. You were standing right next to him and you were still too late to close out. I guess time will tell whether my perceptions are accurate or not, but I kind of look at CJ as being a rich man's Teddy Allen. Or, conversely, looking at Teddy as being a poor man's CJ Wilcher. Love this take, Norm!!! Edited June 15, 2021 by Red Don Quote
busticket Posted June 15, 2021 Report Posted June 15, 2021 Granted I have only seen Wilcher in highlights but I am not sure him and Teddy are all that similar other than lack of foot speed. I would describe Teddy as an unorthodox, streaky YMCA style volume scorer that just gets the ball in the hoop. Wilcher seems very much like a pure shooter to me, an old school catch-and-shoot SG. We shall see. I know I am really excited to see him play in a live game. Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
Fullbacksympathy Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 CJ can guard too. Big difference on the defensive end. Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 4 hours ago, busticket said: Granted I have only seen Wilcher in highlights but I am not sure him and Teddy are all that similar other than lack of foot speed. I would describe Teddy as an unorthodox, streaky YMCA style volume scorer that just gets the ball in the hoop. Wilcher seems very much like a pure shooter to me, an old school catch-and-shoot SG. We shall see. I know I am really excited to see him play in a live game. Fine. Not arguing with that description of Teddy Allen. He's a bit unorthodox. But I've seen CJ do a lot of the step-back moves Teddy Allen would do to create space in his mid-range game. CJ is intuitive getting shots off in traffic around the rim, like Teddy. They both are quick shooters from deep and both are pretty accurate, but I expect that CJ should be a touch more accurate. I don't know, I just see a lot of similarities, all the way down to the way they carry themselves. Now, Teddy's shot is unorthodox. CJ's is more "normal." I expect CJ isn't going to be the guy who wants to have the ball in his hands all the time, initiate the offense by way of some hero-ball move, and have the ball stop in his hands. But, in terms of skillset, what they're good at, they have a lot in common. Quote
49r Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 CJ Wilcher0 · Roselle, NJ Ht Wt Yr G %Min ORtg %Poss %Shots eFG% TS% OR% DR% ARate TORate Blk% Stl% FC/40 FD/40 FTRate FTM-A Pct 2PM-A Pct 3PM-A Pct 2021SF 66 Xavier 6-5 195 Fr 15 17.9 101.6 17.0 19.6 51.1 53.3 5.2 6.2 5.7 15.6 0.7 1.9 2.9 1.9 8.9 4-4 .999 8-16 .500 10-29 .345 Conference-only 12 23.5 110.0 15.5 18.7 55.7 57.0 4.3 8.1 7.6 12.1 0.9 1.9 2.6 1.7 5.7 2-2 .999 6-11 .545 9-24 .375 vs. Tier A+B* 11 24.2 104.1 15.0 18.5 50.0 53.0 3.8 7.5 6.2 9.7 0.9 1.5 2.8 2.1 12.1 4-4 .999 6-10 .600 7-23 .304 vs. Tier A* 5 27.5 99.7 13.4 16.5 43.3 47.0 5.3 11.0 6.3 7.5 2.0 1.0 3.6 2.0 13.3 2-2 .999 2-4 .500 3-11 .273 Similar: Jayden Hardaway '20 (915), Lawson Korita '17 (908), Tanner Riley '11 (906), Thomas Bropleh '11 (906), Nemanja Mitrovic '10 (903), More... Career 15 4-4 .000 8-16 .500 10-29 .345 vs. Tier A+B* 11 4-4 .000 6-10 .600 7-23 .304 vs. Tier A* 5 2-2 .000 2-4 .500 3-11 .273 *Tier A and B represent top 50 and top 100 opponents, respectively, adjusted for game location. See game logs below for specific games.Position identification is based on an algorithm using play-by-data. 2021 Game Data Opponent Result Site St MP ORtg %Ps Pts 2Pt 3Pt FT OR DR A TO Blk Stl PF Mar 10 120 Butler L, 70-69 OT Neutral BE-T 20 79 28 7 2-5 1-3 0-0 1 0 0 2 0 0 1 Mar 6 83 Marquette L, 66-59 Away BE • 32 100 16 10 2-4 2-5 0-0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 Mar 2 63 Georgetown L, 72-66 Away BE 20 78 19 4 1-3 0-3 2-2 3 3 1 1 1 1 3 Feb 27 22 Creighton W, 77-69 Home BE 10 149 11 3 0-0 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 Feb 24 80 Providence L, 83-68 Away BE 3 - - 2 1-1 0-1 0-0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Feb 21 120 Butler W, 63-51 Home BE 6 - - 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 Feb 16 69 St. John's L, 93-84 Away BE 12 102 10 3 0-0 1-3 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Feb 13 21 Connecticut L, 80-72 Home BE 11 117 14 5 1-1 1-3 0-0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 Jan 30 120 Butler W, 68-55 Away BE 10 160 14 5 1-1 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Jan 10 80 Providence W, 74-73 Home BE 6 - - 6 0-1 2-3 0-0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 Jan 6 69 St. John's W, 69-61 Home BE Did not play Dec 30 54 Seton Hall L, 85-68 Home BE 6 - - 3 0-0 1-2 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Dec 23 22 Creighton L, 66-61 Away BE 2 - - 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Dec 20 83 Marquette W, 91-88 Home BE 4 - - 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 Dec 9 39 Oklahoma W, 99-77 Home 7 - - 2 0-0 0-1 2-2 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 Dec 6 116 Cincinnati W, 77-69 Away 3 - - 0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 Dec 2 313 Tennessee Tech W, 79-48 Home Did not play Nov 30 174 Eastern Kentucky W, 99-96 OT Home Did not play Nov 27 74 Toledo W, 76-73 Home Did not play Nov 26 146 Bradley W, 51-50 Home Did not play Nov 25 221 Oakland W, 101-49 Home Did not play Opponent Result Site St MP ORtg %Ps Pts 2Pt 3Pt FT OR DR A TO Blk Stl PF Quote
49r Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 Teddy Allen0 · Mesa, AZ · 6-7-98 Ht Wt Yr G %Min ORtg %Poss %Shots eFG% TS% OR% DR% ARate TORate Blk% Stl% FC/40 FD/40 FTRate FTM-A Pct 2PM-A Pct 3PM-A Pct 2021SF·SG 109 Nebraska National Rank 6-6 223 Jr 21 55.6 98.8 29.946 32.720 52.2 54.7 4.8 13.4 16.4 16.5 0.2 2.5421 3.2 4.9239 29.1 56-81 .691 82-168 .488 42-110 .382365 Conference-onlyConference Rank 15 54.4 96.7 28.95 31.73 53.2 55.6 2.6 14.2 17.523 18.1 0.0 1.2 3.3 4.125 23.8 33-45 .73325 54-114 .474 31-75 .41310 vs. Tier A+B* 17 53.7 94.6 29.8 32.9 51.6 54.2 4.1 13.4 17.1 17.6 0.3 1.4 3.1 4.2 22.7 38-51 .745 65-139 .468 34-86 .395 vs. Tier A* 12 55.4 90.1 28.9 30.6 49.7 52.2 4.0 13.2 16.5 18.3 0.0 1.2 3.0 4.3 26.2 27-39 .692 41-94 .436 22-55 .400 Age: 22.6 (+1.0) Similar: Peter Jok '17 (906), Desi Rodriguez '18 (901), Peter Jok '16 (900), LJ Figueroa '20 (895), Tyler Lamb '14 (894), More... 2018SF 12 West Virginia 5 S16 6-5 225 Fr 35 28.1 106.1 29.3 29.2 47.4 52.4 11.1 14.7 9.5 15.3 0.0 1.8 6.1 6.2 41.0 59-80 .738 88-170 .518 3-25 .120 Conference-only 16 26.9 110.3 26.7 28.4 51.2 55.6 8.5 11.1 7.8 14.5 0.0 1.8 5.1 5.2 33.7 23-29 .793 44-84 .524 0-2 .000 vs. Tier A+B* 25 26.5 107.1 26.2 27.3 47.5 53.3 8.6 13.3 8.2 14.6 0.0 1.6 6.1 6.0 43.4 41-53 .774 58-114 .509 0-8 .000 vs. Tier A* 17 23.7 97.3 26.2 25.6 42.6 50.2 7.9 12.2 12.4 14.1 0.0 2.3 7.2 6.6 54.4 28-37 .757 29-64 .453 0-4 .000 Age: 19.6 (+0.2) Similar: Deonte Burton '14 (865), Kelan Martin '15 (864), Deshaun Thomas '11 (838), Taurean Prince '14 (835), Marcellus Earlington '20 (835), More... Career 56 115-161 .714 170-338 .503 45-135 .333 vs. Tier A+B* 42 79-104 .760 123-253 .486 34-94 .362 vs. Tier A* 29 55-76 .724 70-158 .443 22-59 .373 *Tier A and B represent top 50 and top 100 opponents, respectively, adjusted for game location. See game logs below for specific games.Position identification is based on an algorithm using play-by-data. 2021 Game Data Opponent Result Site St MP ORtg %Ps Pts 2Pt 3Pt FT OR DR A TO Blk Stl PF Mar 10 40 Penn St. L, 72-66 Neutral B10-T Did not play Mar 7 79 Northwestern L, 79-78 Away B10 Did not play Mar 4 7 Iowa L, 102-64 Away B10 Did not play Mar 1 38 Rutgers W, 72-51 Home B10 Did not play Feb 27 62 Minnesota W, 78-74 Home B10 10 38 20 0 0-1 0-2 0-0 0 1 2 1 0 2 1 Feb 25 4 Illinois L, 86-70 Away B10 • 20 71 27 7 3-6 0-1 1-2 1 3 1 3 0 0 2 Feb 23 40 Penn St. L, 86-83 Home B10 MVP • 38 138 37 41 10-15 6-9 3-3 0 8 6 4 0 1 2 Feb 20 25 Purdue L, 75-58 Home B10 • 19 53 34 6 3-7 0-3 0-2 0 1 2 2 0 0 0 Feb 17 35 Maryland L, 79-71 Away B10 • 32 132 34 25 4-7 4-7 5-5 1 4 3 3 0 0 1 Feb 16 35 Maryland L, 64-50 Away B10 • 35 97 27 18 5-9 2-6 2-4 0 5 1 1 0 1 1 Feb 14 40 Penn St. W, 62-61 Away B10 MVP • 33 106 20 14 4-7 2-4 0-0 0 6 3 2 0 0 1 Feb 12 4 Illinois L, 77-72 OT Home B10 • 36 106 23 15 5-11 0-1 5-5 3 5 1 2 0 1 1 Feb 10 14 Wisconsin L, 61-48 Home B10 • 25 73 33 12 1-5 3-5 1-2 1 1 2 5 0 0 4 Feb 8 62 Minnesota L, 79-61 Away B10 Did not play Feb 6 64 Michigan St. L, 66-56 Away B10 • 23 33 28 3 1-8 0-2 1-2 1 2 2 3 0 2 2 Jan 10 50 Indiana L, 84-76 Home B10 • 39 97 27 21 3-7 3-8 6-7 0 5 1 3 0 0 5 Jan 2 64 Michigan St. L, 84-77 Home B10 • 25 114 36 23 7-11 3-7 0-0 2 4 1 3 0 1 3 Dec 30 11 Ohio St. L, 90-54 Away B10 • 22 105 30 13 1-4 2-5 5-6 0 3 2 2 0 0 4 Dec 25 3 Michigan L, 80-69 Home B10 • 34 99 36 25 6-12 3-10 4-5 1 5 0 2 0 0 2 Dec 22 14 Wisconsin L, 67-53 Away B10 • 25 74 27 11 1-4 3-5 0-2 0 1 1 3 0 1 5 Dec 17 NR Doane W, 110-64 Home • 18 106 32 16 5-7 2-7 0-0 1 4 1 2 0 2 1 Dec 11 22 Creighton L, 98-74 Away • 31 111 35 26 7-14 3-6 3-4 5 4 2 4 0 2 2 Dec 9 37 Georgia Tech L, 75-64 Home • 28 72 30 10 4-11 0-5 2-2 3 0 1 2 1 1 1 Dec 1 159 South Dakota W, 76-69 Home • 23 101 47 23 5-10 2-5 7-11 3 2 1 4 0 1 3 Nov 28 139 North Dakota St. W, 79-57 Home MVP • 31 116 28 22 6-7 3-10 1-3 0 7 2 1 0 5 2 Nov 26 91 Nevada L, 69-66 Home MVP • 28 111 30 17 1-4 2-7 9-13 4 2 1 0 0 5 3 Nov 25 340 McNeese St. W, 102-55 Home • 24 114 23 14 5-8 1-2 1-3 1 4 2 2 0 3 2 Opponent Result Site St MP ORtg %Ps Pts 2Pt 3Pt FT OR DR A TO Blk Stl PF Quote
busticket Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said: Fine. Not arguing with that description of Teddy Allen. He's a bit unorthodox. But I've seen CJ do a lot of the step-back moves Teddy Allen would do to create space in his mid-range game. CJ is intuitive getting shots off in traffic around the rim, like Teddy. They both are quick shooters from deep and both are pretty accurate, but I expect that CJ should be a touch more accurate. I don't know, I just see a lot of similarities, all the way down to the way they carry themselves. Now, Teddy's shot is unorthodox. CJ's is more "normal." I expect CJ isn't going to be the guy who wants to have the ball in his hands all the time, initiate the offense by way of some hero-ball move, and have the ball stop in his hands. But, in terms of skillset, what they're good at, they have a lot in common. You could be spot on about CJ’s mid range game. That is a part of his game I really don’t know much about. It would be nice if he is a crafty scorer inside the arc; it would supplement his three point shooting nicely. He has good size for a wing and it would be nice if he could effective back down opposing wings. I think with seasoning he will be more efficient than Teddy. I am almost more excited to see CJ than Bryce, which is probably weird since Bryce is a 5 star. Quote
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