Report reply AuroranHusker 7,861 Posted April 12, 2023 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply cornfed24-7 1,699 Posted April 12, 2023 My thoughts on Hoiberg right now REDZONEDAN, Red Don, Silverbacked1 and 4 others 1 6 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Silverbacked1 5,422 Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) I don’t think I could have a better day unless it involves being pant less . Edited April 12, 2023 by Silverbacked1 NUtball, throwback, redbolt and 2 others 1 4 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply hskr4life 11,042 Posted April 12, 2023 117th ranked player in portal according to On 3. aphilso1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Navin R. Johnson 1,992 Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Silverbacked1 said: I don’t think I could have a better day unless it involves being pant less . Keenan9595, Red Rum and Silverbacked1 1 1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Red Rum 608 Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silverbacked1 said: I don’t think I could have a better day unless it involves being pant less . You should probably be pantsless when you take that cold shower you mentioned elsewhere. But I'm not here to judge you do you Silverbacked1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply cornfed24-7 1,699 Posted April 12, 2023 Also as a point of order I would like to add to the HHC annals ”Coach is getting on a plane, but before he boarded... " as lexicon that signifies near certainty. aphilso1, basketballjones, hhcmatt and 5 others 1 5 2 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply royalfan 2,326 Posted April 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, hskr4life said: 117th ranked player in portal according to On 3. I think they need their heads examined. basketballjones and HuscurAdam 1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Huskerpapa 8,911 Posted April 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said: Hmm. Wonder who his source was??? Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply GATA 546 Posted April 12, 2023 I like that these two additions aren’t mercenary types. Williams has been fine coming off the bench and Mast is a secondary initiator on offense. They should fit great with the reshaped style of Hoiberg ball. Chuck Taylor and Silverbacked1 2 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply aphilso1 2,299 Posted April 12, 2023 I'm very excited by this pickup. This was the extra scorer I wanted. Not ball-dominant, an efficient shooter, willing to play a role, and has some length if we want to give him some minutes at the 4 to stretch the floor. Chuck Taylor and Norm Peterson 1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Vinny 911 Posted April 12, 2023 This is great! Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply 49r 10,360 Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) heck yeah, the 'big ol tit' is N! Edited April 12, 2023 by 49r cornfed24-7, Norm Peterson and Serenity Now 3 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply REDZONEDAN 835 Posted April 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, 49r said: heck yeah, the 'big ol tit' is N! Serenity Now and 49r 2 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply hhcmatt 21,575 Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, 49r said: heck yeah, the 'big ol tit' is N! Chuck Taylor, MichHusker, jdw and 3 others 6 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply HuskerFever 10,977 Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, 49r said: heck yeah, the 'big ol tit' is N! In what? Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Handy Johnson 3,638 Posted April 13, 2023 3 hours ago, HuskerFever said: In what? The Ringer, you Old Motor Boating S.O.B…! Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Art Vandalay 970 Posted April 13, 2023 7 hours ago, royalfan said: I think they need their heads examined. LOVE this. Can play 2-4, rebound, defend, and great shooter. EXACTLY what we need HuscurAdam and royalfan 1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply millerhusker 2,318 Posted April 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Art Vandalay said: LOVE this. Can play 2-4, rebound, defend, and great shooter. EXACTLY what we need Sincere question - how do you know he can defend? Curious if you’ve watched or read anything to suggest this. On paper, his defensive rating is more similar to CJ and Keisei than it is to Griesel and Gary. He looks on film like he lacks lateral quickness. Not trying to knock him, just an observation. I maybe unfairly assumed this, combined with his selfless mentality, is why he’s come off the bench as a scoring punch for much of his career. I see a lot of writers saying he can EVEN play the 4 some to space the floor. Of course he can. In most of the stuff we do offensively, there is no difference between the 3 and the 4. They’re just wings. CJ played the “3” and “4” this year and his role/position never changed. It’s more about who you can guard. The norm in college basketball is to trot out three guards, a longer wing and a post player. Indiana and Purdue were the exceptions this year. But “4s” usually look and play like Joey Hauser or Keyontae Johnson. Not typically Caleb Furst or Race Thompson. Brice Williams is a guard/wing, but always guarded the “4s” at Charlotte. Presumably because he wasn’t able to stay in front of opposing guards. And that’s ok. Just not sure you’d want Williams, keisei and Wrightsell/McCollum on the court together much. Hoping we add an athletic perimeter defender… like Sallis. Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply basketballjones 3,393 Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, millerhusker said: Sincere question - how do you know he can defend? Curious if you’ve watched or read anything to suggest this. On paper, his defensive rating is more similar to CJ and Keisei than it is to Griesel and Gary. He looks on film like he lacks lateral quickness. Not trying to knock him, just an observation. I maybe unfairly assumed this, combined with his selfless mentality, is why he’s come off the bench as a scoring punch for much of his career. I see a lot of writers saying he can EVEN play the 4 some to space the floor. Of course he can. In most of the stuff we do offensively, there is no difference between the 3 and the 4. They’re just wings. CJ played the “3” and “4” this year and his role/position never changed. It’s more about who you can guard. The norm in college basketball is to trot out three guards, a longer wing and a post player. Indiana and Purdue were the exceptions this year. But “4s” usually look and play like Joey Hauser or Keyontae Johnson. Not typically Caleb Furst or Race Thompson. Brice Williams is a guard/wing, but always guarded the “4s” at Charlotte. Presumably because he wasn’t able to stay in front of opposing guards. And that’s ok. Just not sure you’d want Williams, keisei and Wrightsell/McCollum on the court together much. Hoping we add an athletic perimeter defender… like Sallis. I'm not sure it matters in our defensive scheme. We kind of scheme around "staying in front of..." HuscurAdam and hhcmatt 1 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply hhcmatt 21,575 Posted April 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, basketballjones said: I'm not sure it matters in our defensive scheme. We kind of scheme around "staying in front of..." Yup. Man defender ability certainly helps but buy-in and awareness are the things we need for our team scheme. It's harder to individually evaluate that though I'd say Williams defensive rebounding numbers are encouraging for eliminating 2nd chance points. Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply Norm Peterson 14,129 Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, millerhusker said: Sincere question - how do you know he can defend? Curious if you’ve watched or read anything to suggest this. On paper, his defensive rating is more similar to CJ and Keisei than it is to Griesel and Gary. He looks on film like he lacks lateral quickness. Not trying to knock him, just an observation. I maybe unfairly assumed this, combined with his selfless mentality, is why he’s come off the bench as a scoring punch for much of his career. I see a lot of writers saying he can EVEN play the 4 some to space the floor. Of course he can. In most of the stuff we do offensively, there is no difference between the 3 and the 4. They’re just wings. CJ played the “3” and “4” this year and his role/position never changed. It’s more about who you can guard. The norm in college basketball is to trot out three guards, a longer wing and a post player. Indiana and Purdue were the exceptions this year. But “4s” usually look and play like Joey Hauser or Keyontae Johnson. Not typically Caleb Furst or Race Thompson. Brice Williams is a guard/wing, but always guarded the “4s” at Charlotte. Presumably because he wasn’t able to stay in front of opposing guards. And that’s ok. Just not sure you’d want Williams, keisei and Wrightsell/McCollum on the court together much. Hoping we add an athletic perimeter defender… like Sallis. So what you're saying is we got a longer, more athletic CJ who shoots the ball better. OK. I'm down. Serenity Now, Art Vandalay, Faux Mike Peltz and 1 other 1 3 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply millerhusker 2,318 Posted April 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said: So what you're saying is we got a longer, more athletic CJ who shoots the ball better. OK. I'm down. That's exactly what I see when I watch his film, which is great for us. Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply millerhusker 2,318 Posted April 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, basketballjones said: I'm not sure it matters in our defensive scheme. We kind of scheme around "staying in front of..." I agree. The style of team defense Howard implemented does a good job of masking any liabilities. Multiple players have to not do their job on a possession for the offense to get a bucket without really working for it. But it is easier to mask liabilities when you have two or three good to great individual defenders on the court. Griesel, Lawrence, Bandoumel and Gary are all in that category. I'd say Sam Hoiberg is a good one, too. Throughout the year we usually had two or three of these guys on the court at any given time. We didn't really have to see what our defense would look like with our 1 through 4 spots being just average (or below average) individual defenders this year. But we might next year at times. Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Report reply basketballjones 3,393 Posted April 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, millerhusker said: Multiple players have to not do their job on a possession for the offense to get a bucket without really working for it. It's actually the exact opposite, and what I don't like about our defense. It just takes one guy to go 95% on his run-off (we don't close-out, we run guys off the line), and we give up a wide open 3. Just one guy to be a .25 second hesitation late on his rotation and we give up a wide open 3. REDZONEDAN 1 Quote Share this comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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