golfer3 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Like Seve told fellow Ryder Cup Captain Paul Azinger after a Ryder Cup dispute,"Let's treat this like bad toilet water and flush it." The same should apply to this season. Help is on the way. Miles is on notice. Nebraska has too much to offer in terms of facilities and fan base for back-to-back seasons like this one. atskooc, HuskerFever, Red Don and 6 others 1 8 Quote
HuskerFever Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Miles is on notice. He's fine. Red Don, jaimes2000 and Bugeaters1 3 Quote
Lifetimesker Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 I like the analogy. I also believe that help is on the way. The "Miles is on notice" I don't agree with! He will be ok. Brighter skies ahead my friends. Red Don and Bugeaters1 2 Quote
Red Rum Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Ya you lost me on that he's on notice comment too. Red Don and Bugeaters1 2 Quote
hhcmatt Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Like Seve told fellow Ryder Cup Captain Paul Azinger after a Ryder Cup dispute,"Let's treat this like bad toilet water and flush it." The same should apply to this season. Help is on the way. Miles is on notice. Nebraska has too much to offer in terms of facilities and fan base for back-to-back seasons like this one. Given that you feel the need to take a shot at someone on the team in most every post you make, it's not a shock that you're underestimating the likability of Miles and discounting how much more rope that gets one in life. He's going to get an extension this year and he'll be back for year 5 even if he goes something like 9-20. Miles is going to figure this out and the administration here is patient enough to weather the bumps. There is no doubt that if you're posting here in three years it will be Miles and a new set of players to zing for now winning but not winning enough. 49r, Red Don, Bugeaters1 and 1 other 4 Quote
Swan88 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 In a basketball building process, injuries are crucial because depth is an issue. Crucial factors in how this season played out are the total loss of our two senior bigs for much of the season, along with their less-than-100% status for the entire season (Smith) and nearly the entire season (Old Testament). So, here's the "notice" to Tim Miles: do a better job of recruiting players that will be injury-free, because that will improve Nebrasketball's future performance and results. Perhaps there is a no-hair-on-legs type of identifier for this? Silverbacked1, Red Don and Bugeaters1 3 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 ...soooo...does Coach Miles need to hire security since you put him on notice??? Silverbacked1 and Red Don 2 Quote
colhusker Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 By the time Miles is done at NU, they will be singing folk songs about him in the sandhills and erecting a statue somewhere in PBA for taking us to the tournament and winning a game or two or three. Red Don and Bugeaters1 2 Quote
Red Don Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! Bugeaters1 1 Quote
golfer3 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Posted March 12, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! At this level its almost always about recruiting since almost all the coaches can coach. Miles had a great recruiting season this year. Next recruiting season will be difficult to duplicate based on the way we closed this season compared to last season, I feel. Along those lines he hasn't done the best job of developing players either. Contrary to what some may feel, Miles likeability, zingers, one-liners and atttention-drawing routines will wear thin if he doesn't put a worthwhile product on the floor. The consumer is sharper than to spend money unwisely unfulfilling season after unfulfilling season. Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Personally I dont care if Petteway turns pro and Watson and Morrow redshirt next season and Nebraska has a losing season, I just want to see a coach who calls plays his players can execute and develop players (as well as recruit}. They all can't be that bad. HB, Red Rum and Bugeaters1 3 Quote
swmckewon Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Honestly, it's not. Not really. The consumer speaking is the attendance at games. When that dips -- and with PBA being new and cool, we're talking dipping to 11,000-12,000 -- that's speaking. NU averaged 15,569 at home. The team could be 5-25 and still get 8,000-9,000 in that building, so we're not talking Devaney standards. 11,000-12,000 would be noticeable. Quote
golfer3 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Posted March 12, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Honestly, it's not. Not really. The consumer speaking is the attendance at games. When that dips -- and with PBA being new and cool, we're talking dipping to 11,000-12,000 -- that's speaking. NU averaged 15,569 at home. The team could be 5-25 and still get 8,000-9,000 in that building, so we're not talking Devaney standards. 11,000-12,000 would be noticeable. I totally agree, Im assuming most of those I heard in Brewsky's last night and on sports radiio today will back up thier words with actions. It's possible they may have been over-stating thier position after watching Penn St block 16 Nebraska shots last night. Quote
HB Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Honestly, it's not. Not really. The consumer speaking is the attendance at games. When that dips -- and with PBA being new and cool, we're talking dipping to 11,000-12,000 -- that's speaking. NU averaged 15,569 at home. The team could be 5-25 and still get 8,000-9,000 in that building, so we're not talking Devaney standards. 11,000-12,000 would be noticeable. I totally agree, Im assuming most of those I heard in Brewsky's last night and on sports radiio today will back up thier words with actions. It's possible they may have been over-stating thier position after watching Penn St block 16 Nebraska shots last night. Not sure you understand the Husker fan base if you base it on the people who call into talk radio (and in some cases, the idiots putting on the show). That demographic is by nature hyper-opinionated (of course, so are message board posters. And if you go to some boards other than this one, you would also think the sky has fallen, the fans will disappear, and the coach should be fired). Same with mouthy guys hanging out in sports bars. We have a big base of good fans who have more patience than these boneheads, and who still enjoyed supporting the team this year. I usually find the vocal sorts you are listening to don't even go to the games. I will say that the angst of the "newbies" has been sorta funny to watch. I've suffered through seasons like this many times in the past. But the folks who thought it's all going to be different now due to last year have done some whining out of proportion to the problem. A bunch take it personally, and sound like they are entitled to great seasons every year. Silverbacked1, Red Rum and Bugeaters1 3 Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 God you guys keep forgetting we are the BEST fans in college sports. None of this can really be happening. Bugeaters1 and Ron Mexico 2 Quote
hhcmatt Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 Not sure you understand the Husker fan base if you base it on the people who call into talk radio (and in some cases, the idiots putting on the show). That demographic is by nature hyper-opinionated (of course, so are message board posters. Considering McK is talking about meaningful numbers and Golfer is raising his sample size from radio people to raido people + guys in a bar while thinking he's in full agreement, I highly doubt it. BTW, were these the same or different radio/bar people who thought we should give Miles a raise and/or were worried about him bolting? HB 1 Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 I quit going to the football games because of the "fans" I had to sit by. Also why I will never go to a bar to watch a game. You might as well know that most people can't keep their views if a game in perspective. I have even had some trouble at the Vault, but luckily I think the real idiots share tickets so I don't have to listen to them ever game. Bugeaters1 and Ron Mexico 2 Quote
golfer3 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Posted March 13, 2015 Like Seve told fellow Ryder Cup Captain Paul Azinger after a Ryder Cup dispute,"Let's treat this like bad toilet water and flush it." The same should apply to this season. Help is on the way. Miles is on notice. Nebraska has too much to offer in terms of facilities and fan base for back-to-back seasons like this one. Given that you feel the need to take a shot at someone on the team in most every post you make, it's not a shock that you're underestimating the likability of Miles and discounting how much more rope that gets one in life. He's going to get an extension this year and he'll be back for year 5 even if he goes something like 9-20. Miles is going to figure this out and the administration here is patient enough to weather the bumps. There is no doubt that if you're posting here in three years it will be Miles and a new set of players to zing for now winning but not winning enough. Like Seve told fellow Ryder Cup Captain Paul Azinger after a Ryder Cup dispute,"Let's treat this like bad toilet water and flush it." The same should apply to this season. Help is on the way. Miles is on notice. Nebraska has too much to offer in terms of facilities and fan base for back-to-back seasons like this one. Given that you feel the need to take a shot at someone on the team in most every post you make, it's not a shock that you're underestimating the likability of Miles and discounting how much more rope that gets one in life. He's going to get an extension this year and he'll be back for year 5 even if he goes something like 9-20. Miles is going to figure this out and the administration here is patient enough to weather the bumps. There is no doubt that if you're posting here in three years it will be Miles and a new set of players to zing for now winning but not winning enough. The good ones ones don't need the likability crutch. They count on results. By no means am I calling for Miles, NU is a tough gig. But not as tough as it used to be during the Doc and Barry years. Think about it, one year after losing one player, I repeat one player, and still having the leading scorer and first team all big ten player team player plus and honorable mention all conference return and go down the tubes like this! Curious, what does 16 of your shots getting blocked mean to you. Bad luck, bad hair day, great coaching, but things didn't work out? Or, at least we have some type of record, but I dont care, I go to bed every night after listening to Miles post game show funnies holding my tummy because I'm laugh so hard Red Rum 1 Quote
HuskerFever Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 There's a time and a place for everything. Miles (or xyz coach if Miles rejected) was hired to shake things up and create some change to the culture. Many of you know, Miles wasn't my (or probably anybody's) front-runner before they announced the hire. And I'm glad the administration gets paid to do their jobs because they knew much more than we did. It's easy to forget and not appreciate the things that Miles was provided our program. Forget the facilities; put that aside. Miles gave the fan base some revitalized hope. Me brought goofiness and fun to a stagnant program. He's the reason the place sells out; not the facilities. And sure, there are some people jumping off the bandwagon after this season, but that's because they really weren't invested in the program in the first place. If you told me if I had to choose between getting a NCAA tournament win in Miles's 3rd year and never again versus investing the time to build the program to an entirely new level it's never seen before and potentially be in contention for the tournament more than 50% of the time, I'll take the latter any day. Just be patient. Quote
Ron Mexico Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! At this level its almost always about recruiting since almost all the coaches can coach. Miles had a great recruiting season this year. Next recruiting season will be difficult to duplicate based on the way we closed this season compared to last season, I feel. Along those lines he hasn't done the best job of developing players either. Contrary to what some may feel, Miles likeability, zingers, one-liners and atttention-drawing routines will wear thin if he doesn't put a worthwhile product on the floor. The consumer is sharper than to spend money unwisely unfulfilling season after unfulfilling season. Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Personally I dont care if Petteway turns pro and Watson and Morrow redshirt next season and Nebraska has a losing season, I just want to see a coach who calls plays his players can execute and develop players (as well as recruit}. They all can't be that bad. This is what has become of our fan base. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
Dean Smith Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 At this level its almost always about recruiting since almost all the coaches can coach. No, its harder than that or anyone could win anywhere there was good facilities or good weather or whatever good to recruit to. There are a lot of duties on the job description and being mediocre at any of them can be a death blow. Recruiting - yes, Teaching the Fundamental skills, when to use the fundamental skills, how to incorporate those skills into the team concept, developing a team concept, having a team concept, game planning for teams, game planning for individuals, finding a game plan that fits your team concept and the talent on hand, in game adjustments, in season adjustments, player relations, players' families relations, administration relations, fan relations, donor relations, program oversight There are lots of OK coaches but the really good ones are few and far between. Miles had a great recruiting season this year. Next recruiting season will be difficult to duplicate based on the way we closed this season compared to last season, I feel. Along those lines he hasn't done the best job of developing players either. Contrary to what some may feel, Miles likeability, zingers, one-liners and atttention-drawing routines will wear thin if he doesn't put a worthwhile product on the floor. The consumer is sharper than to spend money unwisely unfulfilling season after unfulfilling season. Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Personally I dont care if Petteway turns pro and Watson and Morrow redshirt next season and Nebraska has a losing season, I just want to see a coach who calls plays Have I mentioned that I would vastly prefer someone who would teach his players to play the game instead of just teaching plays, but yes you do need to have some sets that fit your personnel and what you are trying to achieve within your team concept. his players can execute and develop players (as well as recruit}. They all can't be that bad. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! At this level its almost always about recruiting since almost all the coaches can coach. Miles had a great recruiting season this year. Next recruiting season will be difficult to duplicate based on the way we closed this season compared to last season, I feel. Along those lines he hasn't done the best job of developing players either. Contrary to what some may feel, Miles likeability, zingers, one-liners and atttention-drawing routines will wear thin if he doesn't put a worthwhile product on the floor. The consumer is sharper than to spend money unwisely unfulfilling season after unfulfilling season. Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Personally I dont care if Petteway turns pro and Watson and Morrow redshirt next season and Nebraska has a losing season, I just want to see a coach who calls plays his players can execute and develop players (as well as recruit}. They all can't be that bad. This is what has become of our fan base. More aptly, a Crayton fan posing as a Husker.... Silverbacked1 1 Quote
cipsucks Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 Like Seve told fellow Ryder Cup Captain Paul Azinger after a Ryder Cup dispute,"Let's treat this like bad toilet water and flush it." The same should apply to this season. Help is on the way. Miles is on notice. Nebraska has too much to offer in terms of facilities and fan base for back-to-back seasons like this one. I think we should kill all the golfers.... jimmykc, 49r and Silverbacked1 3 Quote
trickey Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 I totally agree, Im assuming most of those I heard in Brewsky's last night and on sports radiio today will back up thier words with actions. It's possible they may have been over-stating thier position after watching Penn St block 16 Nebraska shots last night. Could you ask any of those friends of yours that have tickets in the lower bowl to post in our marketplace section for sale...that could reveal how many people you know that reallly have tickets to sell. They could even make some money! Curious, what does 16 of your shots getting blocked mean to you. Bad luck, bad hair day, great coaching, but things didn't work out? Well, perhaps if you reviewed the series of 3 straight SS possessions that were 2 extreme fouls called as blocks and the third call of a charge against a moving player...you could partially call it a poor job by the refs of calling a game. Try listening to the broadcast as the "unbiased announcers" as they review the plays during the broadcast. It happens within 2 minutes, so it won't take you much time. Those 2 plays called correctly...ignoring a few others would negate the record... and perhaps even, change the game!?!? Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 I need to know, how is it Miles fault that we had 16 of our shots blocked? We play best when we drive to,the rim and not stand around then hoist up a late shot clock three, correct? I also truely believe that a few of the "record" 16 blocks where fouls, but I guess that is neither here nor there. Quote
swmckewon Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 Damn!!! I'm going to have to quit using the I-Pad (with my FAT fingers) or quit Voting! Really Didn't mean to give the OP a 'Greenie'. Now I have to give everyone else a Green arrow to make up for it! Agree with everything above. Except Miles being on notice! Does anyone really think he is on the hot seat (or doesn't feel worse than any 'fan' about the season)? He is 3 years in on a 7 year contract, and after going to the Tournament in his second year! Proof of the pudding will be his recruiting. Looking at the incoming recruits, and the fact we'd never have even sniffed the Tournament without the players he recruited his first year, I believe we'll be just fine! Miles is on notice, listen to sports radio. Thats the consumer speaking. No one is ready to jump ship but they don't want to see a repeat of this next season. Honestly, it's not. Not really. The consumer speaking is the attendance at games. When that dips -- and with PBA being new and cool, we're talking dipping to 11,000-12,000 -- that's speaking. NU averaged 15,569 at home. The team could be 5-25 and still get 8,000-9,000 in that building, so we're not talking Devaney standards. 11,000-12,000 would be noticeable. I totally agree, Im assuming most of those I heard in Brewsky's last night and on sports radiio today will back up thier words with actions. It's possible they may have been over-stating thier position after watching Penn St block 16 Nebraska shots last night. I'm guessing Nebraska does very well in attendance to start next season. Fans want to believe in it. In the Collier and Doc eras, part of what kept some fans away was simply Devaney. Part of it, too, was their styles of play. After Maric left, Doc's offense became fairly punishing to endure. But Nebraska's offense this year wasn't much more exciting. Quote
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