Creighton to the Big East

[hhcmatt]

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

[Busch Light]

It's funny that they are all of the sudden going to have the same problems that Nebraska has.  That is, not a lot of regional talent, the need to recruit nationally, etc.  They are going to come to realize that it's a lot harder to be in a good conference in a low-talent region.  Yeah, they will struggle for a while all right.  Hhcdimes is right though, it's a no-brainer move and gives them a higher ceiling.  It may take a while, but they do have a good A.D. and they are dedicated to winning.  Guess we will see.   

 

I hate to be cynical, but I'm going to revere in seeing the smug smiles wiped off their fans' faces when they realize how big of jump it actually is the first several years.       

[Handy Johnson]

Keep in mind Husker faithful, I'd rather kick sand in Creighton's face every year when they're REALLY good, in a good Conference and not some middling program on the level of Drake.

[Norm Peterson]

Am I the only one who thinks this topic belongs ... somewhere else?

[hhcmatt]

I'm slacking

[hhcmatt]

Looks like this will be announced today.  Congratulations.

We just upgraded to a Wisconsin-Marquette type matchup.

 

I wonder how much this will factor into McDermott's decision to declare for the draft.

[huskerbaseball13]

Terrible decision by CU to go. They've carved a niche in Imaginationland, and the formula works.

This will end with CU losing its fan base once the losses pile up. Big East will still be a good conference. Unlike the Purple Aces of the world, this league will be physically imposing. There's no talent on that squad beyond DM.

I can't wait for the spiral.

 

I'm sure just like NU to the big ten stability was a key factor...and $$$$$$.  Although, the big ten dwarfs the big east in that department.  I'm not sure they will lose much of a fanbase because there will be some good teams coming to Omaha....plus, living in Omaha the majority of people I know that go to games do so because its the "thing to do" that night before the bars.  I do find it funny on a couple different levels though....1. They will now be facing the same problems that has plauged NU bball in the past.  They no longer have to our recruit the Drakes of the world....now they will be going against programs that are in far more fertile recruiting grounds.  This extends Creighton to the East...but is a kid going to go halfway across the country when he can stay closer to home?  Not very often.  2.  Creighton might as well get rid of their baseball program.  NU is struggling this year with the grinding non-conference schedule which was expected...but it sets the tone for the future.  And now that we are in the Big 10 that's the type of schedule you have to play in order to recruit talented kids.  Erstad brought in a top 30 recruiting class his first year and playing those top schools was a big reason why.  Servais has never shown he is willing to play a tough schedule....and Creighton just joined a baseball league that will be far worse than the Big Ten.  And it's likely UNC, UVA, and GA Tech may be joining the Big 10...which would be huge for the league in terms of baseball.  Quite funny after many comments from jays fans after NU's move. 

[huskerbaseball13]

Looks like this will be announced today.  Congratulations.

We just upgraded to a Wisconsin-Marquette type matchup.

 

I wonder how much this will factor into McDermott's decision to declare for the draft.

 

If he has a chance to go first round....then he should leave.  Player better athletes next year without Ecenique and Gibbs may hurt his stock.  Plus...I dont think the Big East refs will give him the majority of the calls like he gets in the MVC.  More interesting to me is his daddy.  He was downright horrible in the Big 12 conference....and wanted the Creighton job because it was in the MVC.  Not sure how long he will last in the Big East.

[hhcmatt]

Looks like this will be announced today.  Congratulations.

We just upgraded to a Wisconsin-Marquette type matchup.

 

I wonder how much this will factor into McDermott's decision to declare for the draft.

 

If he has a chance to go first round....then he should leave.  Player better athletes next year without Ecenique and Gibbs may hurt his stock.  Plus...I dont think the Big East refs will give him the majority of the calls like he gets in the MVC.  More interesting to me is his daddy.  He was downright horrible in the Big 12 conference....and wanted the Creighton job because it was in the MVC.  Not sure how long he will last in the Big East.

 

If Coach McD doesn't work out they've opened themselves up to becoming a destination job.

Would Altman still be there if they made this move 2 years ago?

 

We're hopefully done with the "mid-major" finger pointing.

If you're successful in the Big East, you're one of the big boys.

If the Jays get run over, they might look back and wish they had stayed in Hike School

 

[49r]

SMH

 

http://www.indystar.com/interactive/article/20130320/SPORTS0605/303200045/Butler-president-James-Danko-says-Big-East-move-unprecedented-opportunity-

 

Georgetown president Jack DeGioia said a search firm has been retained to find candidates for commissioner of the conference. Dan Beebe, former commissioner of the Big 12, will be a consultant to the league.

[GATA]

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

[huskerbaseball13]

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

 

Who said that??  It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years.  It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton. 

[Huskerpapa]

From a National scene perspective, from a money perspective, from a prestige perspective, great move.  The fans will certainly see a different brand of basketball.  It will be interesting to see if Creighton starts recruiting more from the east coast?

[Creighton Fan]

 

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

 

Who said that??  It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years.  It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton. 

 

 

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

 

Who said that??  It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years.  It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton. 

 

 

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

 

Who said that??  It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years.  It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton. 

The two moves are not remotely similar.

 

Nebraska's move was a lateral one - from one top conference to another.

 

Creighton's move is an upgrade - from a mid major to a (basketball) major.

 

Apples and oranges.

[Cousin Mose]

 

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

 

Who said that??  It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years.  It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton. 

Who hated the Nebraska move but loved the Creighton move?

[huskerbaseball13]

Not in terms of $$$$ it wasn't a lateral move. If it was a lateral move I seriously doubt Nebraska would have even entertained the offer. And Mose...it's not my fault you don't remember the conference realignment talks on the Jays board. Of course, it just came down to jealousy.

[hhcmatt]

Not in terms of $$$$ it wasn't a lateral move. If it was a lateral move I seriously doubt Nebraska would have even entertained the offer. And Mose...it's not my fault you don't remember the conference realignment talks on the Jays board. Of course, it just came down to jealousy.

 

Apparently it is his fault you're trolling Creighton boards

[huskerbaseball13]

Prove it Dimesey! Ill be waiting. I can't remember the last time I posted on a Creighton board. If you mean by viewing the Crighton board I was trolling them you sure caught me.

[Creighton Fan]

 

 

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.  

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true.  On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

 

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton.  Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

 

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

 

Great move by Creighton.

 

Who said that??  It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years.  It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton. 

Who hated the Nebraska move but loved the Creighton move?

Nobody.  He's just a Creighton hater.

[hhcmatt]

Who hated the Nebraska move but loved the Creighton move?

Nobody.  He's just a Creighton hater.

That would probably fit the bill for those guys who troll the Husker hashtags and post on Husker message boards.

[huskerbaseball13]

This is the right move for Creighton in the long run.

For all the people saying that they will get run over in the Big East, that might be true. On the flip side, once Doug McDermott graduates there is no guarantee that they will continue to win the MVC.

The players flip every four years.

You can always get rid of the coach.

They already have the facilities.

Being in the Big East simply raises the ceiling for Creighton. Who knows if their elevator ever makes it to that top floor.

Really well said. People who are saying this is a bad move because Greg McDermott failed at Iowa State are being shortsighted. It's not about McDermott, it's about the raising the program's profile. No doubt this does it.

Great move by Creighton.

Who said that?? It was an easy decision based money and nobody knows what the Valley was going to look like in 10 years. It's hilarious though because some of the same people who bashed Nebraska's move are the same people who 'Love" this move for Creighton.

Who hated the Nebraska move but loved the Creighton move?

Nobody. He's just a Creighton hater.

That's hilarious coming from you of all people. And yes, I'm a Creighton hater and proud of it...not really because of Creighton...but more so because people like you.

[49r]

Stay classy, Jays:

 

Personally I give miles credit for what he did considering what he had. You often hear the "empty cupboard" thing but Doc Sadler perfected that concept. He emptied the cupboard then took a sledge hammer to it. Against, Iowa for example...NU didn't sub once in the second half. Even if you like your 5 you don't do that unless you almost have to. And he obviously put together a nice squad at CSU...as evidenced by their domination of Missou yesterday.

But (there's always a "but" right?)...As was pointed out in the post you replied to...for NU to improve in the win loss column and the standings they obviously have to pass some people. Who? Illinois? Nope. Illinois and Groce are a definite "buy" in my portfolio. Purdue? Not likely. Traditional basketball school who had a young team this year. Painter has proven he can keep Purdue in the top 1/2 of the Big 10 consistently. Iowa? Maybe. But I'd put them as a "buy" as well. Almost made the tourney this year. Good coach. Young talent. Minnesota? Maybe. Smith is an awful coach but he gets players. MSU, MU, OSU, WIsco, Indiana? No chance. 

So regardless of what he did this year with literally no players worth a damn outside of maybe talley he's got a TOUGH uphill battle in front of him. It's easy to exceed expectations when expectations were last place. I made the mistake of lurking over at huskerhoopscentral the other night to see what those clueless f-s had to say about the Big East thing and you'd think that Miles is the next Tom Izzo to those clowns (it's truly amazing how delusional those people are over there). You never know. Maybe he is. Maybe he's a miracle worker. Or maybe he's Barry Collier.

 
Okay, time to fess up, guys.  Which one of you clueless f-s had the gall to dis Creighton and their move to the Big East?  Time to own up, they're REALLY pissed over there!
 
Somebody needs to go apologize for their transgressions.  I mean, really, how DARE we have any kind of optimism regarding our team at all.  Gah!  And really, how can we NOT see how much Creighton's gonna dominate their new league next year, I mean after all FGCU (kenpom 124) just handed G'Town their lunch!  This Big East thing's gonna be a cakewalk, pry easier to win for Creighton than the MVC!!!

[HuskerFever]

Personally I give miles credit for what he did considering what he had. You often hear the "empty cupboard" thing but Doc Sadler perfected that concept. He emptied the cupboard then took a sledge hammer to it. Against, Iowa for example...NU didn't sub once in the second half. Even if you like your 5 you don't do that unless you almost have to. And he obviously put together a nice squad at CSU...as evidenced by their domination of Missou yesterday.

But (there's always a "but" right?)...As was pointed out in the post you replied to...for NU to improve in the win loss column and the standings they obviously have to pass some people. Who? Illinois? Nope. Illinois and Groce are a definite "buy" in my portfolio. Purdue? Not likely. Traditional basketball school who had a young team this year. Painter has proven he can keep Purdue in the top 1/2 of the Big 10 consistently. Iowa? Maybe. But I'd put them as a "buy" as well. Almost made the tourney this year. Good coach. Young talent. Minnesota? Maybe. Smith is an awful coach but he gets players. MSU, MU, OSU, WIsco, Indiana? No chance. 

So regardless of what he did this year with literally no players worth a damn outside of maybe talley he's got a TOUGH uphill battle in front of him. It's easy to exceed expectations when expectations were last place. I made the mistake of lurking over at huskerhoopscentral the other night to see what those clueless f-s had to say about the Big East thing and you'd think that Miles is the next Tom Izzo to those clowns (it's truly amazing how delusional those people are over there). You never know. Maybe he is. Maybe he's a miracle worker. Or maybe he's Barry Collier.

 

I'll address these in order:

1) Iowa/no subbing: Of course he didn't sub anybody in the 2nd half. We won the game with our best players on the court. That's solid coaching determining who's playing well that night, then sticking to it until it's broken.

2) Of course he put together a nice squad at CSU. One that was competitive in the conference. One that can beat those Missouri-esk teams on the biggest stage in the country. He's working to bring that mentality to Nebraska. And he had just as much of an uphill battle there as he does here

3) John Groce (and many of you know that I was advocating him for a long time) is in the infant stages of his career at Illinois as well. There's promise, but he's no lock. You want to know people that have high expectations for their team? Illinois would fit that description.

4) Tough uphill battle: See response #2.

5) Made the mistake to visit Husker Hoops Central? Your life must be rough.

6) Miles is the next Tom Izzo to Nebraska fans? Sure. Why not? If you're talking about us thinking that Miles can bring us to a different level of play (more so tournament appearances), yeah. Of course. It's not like he'd have to do much for our program to have the similar aspects of an Izzo to a program like ours.

 

There, I said it.

[hhcmatt]

I care what people on other team's boards think about this place like I care about the WNBA.

[uneblinstu]

I have always had a hard time getting you to shut up about your New York Liberty obsession...