49r Posted October 14 Report Share Posted October 14 It's that time of year again; Ken Pomeroy just dropped his rankings for the new season and hoo boy does the Big Ten look like it's gonna be a slog! Once again Nebraska comes in with an all time high ranking to start the season (Hoiberg era) at #56. Two spots ahead of last year's starting position. In terms of predicted league finish, he's got Purdue winning the league title comfortably, then the next FIFTEEN schools are predicted to finish between 11-9 and 9-11. 5 teams each in the 11-9, 10-10, and 9-11 groups. Nebraska is predicted to go 16-13 (9-11). Okay, and for the first time this season, here we go! KenPom rankings as of 10-14-24 ======================= B1G (0-0): 10. Purdue (A) 23. Illinois (H) 26. UCLA (H) 29. Oregon (A) 31. Ohio State (2) 33. Iowa (2) 35. Michigan State (A) 36. Michigan (H) 37. Maryland (2) 39. Indiana (H) 46. Wisconsin (A) 50. Northwestern (A) 56. Nebraska 57. USC (H) 59. Minnesota (H) 61. Penn State (A) 63. Rutgers (H) 75. Washington (A) Non-Conference (0-0): 307. UTRGV 301. Bethune Cookman 351. Farliegh Dickinson ---Sanford Pentagon--- 34. Saint Mary’s 12. @Creighton 265. South Dakota 253. North Florida —Diamond Head Classic--- 112. Murray State 128./198. Charlotte/Hawaii 144./136./79./173. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland 249. Southern Handy Johnson, Shawn Eichorst's Toupee, Five and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted October 14 Author Report Share Posted October 14 To add some contrast, Torvik has a slightly different outlook and he REALLY likes Rutgers for some reason. He also has UCLA with the easiest conference schedule: B10 Conference Info 2025 OVERALL ADJ. EFFICIENCY CONF. EMS CONF-ONLY ADJ. EFF. CONF. SOS RK TEAM REC ADJOE ADJDE BARTHAG RAW ADJ CONOE CONDE BARTHAG PROJ. REC SO FAR REMAIN TOTAL 17 Purdue 0-0 114.9 20 95.0 18 .8988 0 0 0.0 18 0.0 18 .0 19-11 (12-8) .0 18 .8471 5 .8471 5 18 Michigan St. 0-0 112.8 48 93.8 8 .8921 0 0 0.0 13 0.0 13 .0 20-9 (12-8) .0 13 .8391 17 .8391 17 19 Rutgers 0-0 111.9 52 93.2 6 .8916 0 0 0.0 12 0.0 12 .0 20-11 (12-8) .0 12 .8447 11 .8447 11 21 Illinois 0-0 113.3 42 94.6 14 .8882 0 0 0.0 11 0.0 11 .0 20-11 (11-9) .0 11 .8451 8 .8451 8 24 UCLA 0-0 114.0 31 95.7 24 .8821 0 0 0.0 14 0.0 14 .0 20-11 (11-9) .0 14 .8364 18 .8364 18 30 Indiana 0-0 114.9 19 97.6 52 .8679 0 0 0.0 15 0.0 15 .0 19-10 (11-9) .0 15 .8419 14 .8419 14 33 Michigan 0-0 115.4 17 98.6 78 .8596 0 0 0.0 17 0.0 17 .0 18-12 (10-10) .0 17 .8501 2 .8501 2 34 Ohio St. 0-0 114.6 22 98.0 62 .8582 0 0 0.0 16 0.0 16 .0 18-13 (10-10) .0 16 .8449 9 .8449 9 41 Wisconsin 0-0 113.0 45 97.4 50 .8476 0 0 0.0 10 0.0 10 .0 18-12 (10-10) .0 10 .8404 16 .8404 16 42 Maryland 0-0 110.1 74 94.9 17 .8469 0 0 0.0 9 0.0 9 .0 19-12 (10-10) .0 9 .8449 10 .8449 10 44 Oregon 0-0 113.2 43 97.8 57 .8436 0 0 0.0 3 0.0 3 .0 18-13 (10-10) .0 3 .8445 12 .8445 12 45 Iowa 0-0 115.6 15 100.0 94 .8417 0 0 0.0 2 0.0 2 .0 19-12 (10-10) .0 2 .8420 13 .8420 13 47 Nebraska 0-0 111.6 56 96.6 39 .8399 0 0 0.0 1 0.0 1 .0 17-12 (10-10) .0 1 .8464 6 .8464 6 48 Northwestern 0-0 111.5 58 96.6 37 .8396 0 0 0.0 4 0.0 4 .0 18-12 (10-10) .0 4 .8492 3 .8492 3 50 USC 0-0 115.2 18 100.0 92 .8358 0 0 0.0 5 0.0 5 .0 18-12 (9-11) .0 5 .8411 15 .8411 15 71 Minnesota 0-0 111.2 62 99.5 86 .7830 0 0 0.0 8 0.0 8 .0 17-13 (8-12) .0 8 .8462 7 .8462 7 73 Washington 0-0 109.3 84 98.0 61 .7783 0 0 0.0 7 0.0 7 .0 15-15 (8-12) .0 7 .8511 1 .8511 1 74 Penn St. 0-0 109.1 87 97.9 59 .7775 0 0 0.0 6 0.0 6 .0 16-14 (8-12) .0 6 .8486 4 .8486 4 Compiled by Bart Torvik from sacred data and secret formulas. Huskerpapa and Shawn Eichorst's Toupee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hskr4life Posted October 14 Report Share Posted October 14 30 minutes ago, 49r said: Non-Conference (0-0): 307. UTRGV 301. Bethune Cookman 351. Farliegh Dickinson ---Sanford Pentagon--- 34. Saint Mary’s 12. @Creighton 265. South Dakota 253. North Florida —Diamond Head Classic--- 112. Murray State 128./198. Charlotte/Hawaii 144./136./79./173. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland 249. Southern Amazing we only got 3 BTN+ games with this non-con schedule. throwback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted October 16 Author Report Share Posted October 16 On 10/14/2024 at 8:49 AM, 49r said: Nebraska is predicted to go 16-13 (9-11). I just realized that Ken is not including the last two games in the Diamond Head Classic in this prediction. We should be favored in those two games so my best guess is his actual prediction would be more like 18-13, which, with our SOS probably puts us in NIT lock territory. hhcmatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kldm64 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, 49r said: I just realized that Ken is not including the last two games in the Diamond Head Classic in this prediction. We should be favored in those two games so my best guess is his actual prediction would be more like 18-13, which, with our SOS probably puts us in NIT lock territory. That is correct which is why I was so critical of our non-conference schedule. It could bite us in the end with such a low SOS. This a Doc Sadler kind of schedule and absolutely no non conference home games that will draw much of a crowd and/or atmosphere. It would be extremely disappointing to just make NIT this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 23 minutes ago, kldm64 said: That is correct which is why I was so critical of our non-conference schedule. It could bite us in the end with such a low SOS. This a Doc Sadler kind of schedule and absolutely no non conference home games that will draw much of a crowd and/or atmosphere. It would be extremely disappointing to just make NIT this year. On the other hand it was also the type of schedule that got us into the tournament last year cornfed24-7, Art Vandalay, huskerkid21 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted October 16 Author Report Share Posted October 16 On the other hand it was also the type of schedule that got us into the tournament last yearBeating #1 ranked Purdue put us in the tournament let’s be honest. Without that win we would have been really sweating selection Sunday. kldm64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted October 16 Author Report Share Posted October 16 4 hours ago, kldm64 said: That is correct which is why I was so critical of our non-conference schedule. It could bite us in the end with such a low SOS. This a Doc Sadler kind of schedule and absolutely no non conference home games that will draw much of a crowd and/or atmosphere. It would be extremely disappointing to just make NIT this year. Well, that would make the Saint Mary's game pretty crucial for us then. Flip that game to a W in our favor then do the rest of the things as predicted and we'll have a much stronger case for a tournament berth. thrasher31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, 49r said: Beating #1 ranked Purdue put us in the tournament let’s be honest. Without that win we would have been really sweating selection Sunday. Really the question is whether or not we need those types of games to figure out our team because it's not like playing a tougher schedule and then losing those games is some sort of great alternative to playing a weak non-con. Our non-con does limit our exposure to meaningful win possibilities but at this point the B1G looks like most every game will be meaningful for making the tourney. throwback, thrasher31 and cornfed24-7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrasher31 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 29 minutes ago, 49r said: Well, that would make the Saint Mary's game pretty crucial for us then. Flip that game to a W in our favor then do the rest of the things as predicted and we'll have a much stronger case for a tournament berth. Definitely think st Mary's is a super important game. Getting a W there would go a long way. Not getting blown out by Creighton would help too. Predictions are predictions, so they're not perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornfed24-7 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, thrasher31 said: Not getting blown out by Creighton would help too. Oooooooooooor knocking the barn doors off Creighton would help too. I prefer my scenario roscoe, throwback, thrasher31 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted October 16 Author Report Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, hhcmatt said: Really the question is whether or not we need those types of games to figure out our team because it's not like playing a tougher schedule and then losing those games is some sort of great alternative to playing a weak non-con. Our non-con does limit our exposure to meaningful win possibilities but at this point the B1G looks like most every game will be meaningful for making the tourney. Otherwise known as the John Thompson, Jr. scheduling philosophy. Georgetown would always load up on the softest cupcakes in the non-con every year, beat everyone by 50 and then do okay in the Big East and boom! 22 wins and a tourney bid. Every year. OmahaHusker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornfed24-7 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 20 minutes ago, 49r said: Otherwise known as the John Thompson, Jr. scheduling philosophy. Georgetown would always load up on the softest cupcakes in the non-con every year, beat everyone by 50 and then do okay in the Big East and boom! 22 wins and a tourney bid. Every year. I like this for this year. I think it's the perfect strategy. I also reserve the right to curse this strategy if we mess around and lose to a South Mississippi State University - Biloxi type team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy Johnson Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Alright Ken Pom, I know you’re still Smarting from that BEATING I laid on you a couple years ago, but here’s the Deal, I like the Huskers say “Go Hard or Go Home”…! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkersHoops Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 On 10/16/2024 at 5:16 PM, cornfed24-7 said: Oooooooooooor knocking the barn doors off Creighton would help too. I prefer my scenario I will say.... Our last 2 tourney appearances in the dance included fugly losses to the blue team. I like your plan better though! cornfed24-7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hskr4life Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 Wisconsin……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrasher31 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 9 hours ago, hskr4life said: Wisconsin……… https://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Northern+Iowa&year=2025 Looks like they're being projected to finish pretty high on the MVC, but Wisconsin shouldn't lose to them still. A sign of things to come, as I think this may be a rough year for them. Crowl is arguably their best player, or klesmit, and neither are guys you want to be your best player in this conference. HuscurAdam and millerhusker 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerActuary Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 10 hours ago, hskr4life said: Wisconsin……… I'm going to assume that Connor Essegian isn't too disappointed to hear about that. Not sure if there are hard feelings or not, but I would assume there is somewhat given how drastically his playing time was cut. thrasher31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hskr4life Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 4 hours ago, HuskerActuary said: I'm going to assume that Connor Essegian isn't too disappointed to hear about that. Not sure if there are hard feelings or not, but I would assume there is somewhat given how drastically his playing time was cut. would be even better if they were 25% from deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HB Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 7 hours ago, thrasher31 said: https://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Northern+Iowa&year=2025 Looks like they're being projected to finish pretty high on the MVC, but Wisconsin shouldn't lose to them still. A sign of things to come, as I think this may be a rough year for them. Crowl is arguably their best player, or klesmit, and neither are guys you want to be your best player in this conference. All interesting stuff, but for the rest of my life I will be traumatized by my conclusions following our destruction of Colorado in the exhibition game 3 years ago. My defense mechanisms now lead me to not put much stock in exhibitions.... Huskerpapa, cornfed24-7, millerhusker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 10 hours ago, HB said: All interesting stuff, but for the rest of my life I will be traumatized by my conclusions following our destruction of Colorado in the exhibition game 3 years ago. My defense mechanisms now lead me to not put much stock in exhibitions.... That was a fun night and was a sign of things to come.... only issue is that the 'things to come' consisted of their final 3 regular season games, ruining other teams' Senior Night at the bitter end of a very long season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted Monday at 04:22 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 04:22 PM Hadn't seen this yet: Can't say I agree with it, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted Tuesday at 02:41 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:41 PM Slipped two spots after last night. Big jumps for Ohio State, Michigan and UCLA after huge blowout wins. Our Non-Con SOS is at #196, so winning (preferably big) is of the utmost importance for us to have any postseason hopes. Surprisingly, even given the strength of the Big Ten from top to bottom (highest ranked worst team by far) Ken only has the Big Ten as #3 conference, owing mostly to the fact that we have 0 top ten teams, while the Big 12 has 4 and the SEC has 2. Conference play is gonna be a bloodbath. For the second time this season, here we go! KenPom rankings as of 11-05-24 ======================= B1G (0-0): 11. Purdue (A) 19. UCLA (H) 21. Illinois (H) 20. Ohio State (2) 25. Michigan (H) 33. Oregon (A) 34. Michigan State (A) 36. Maryland (2) 37. Iowa (2) 38. Northwestern (A) 42. Indiana (H) 44. USC (H) 48. Wisconsin (A) 54. Penn State (A) 59. Nebraska 61. Minnesota (H) 64. Rutgers (H) 73. Washington (A) Non-Conference (1-0): 306. UTRGV - W 304. Bethune Cookman 352. Farliegh Dickinson ---Sanford Pentagon--- 41. Saint Mary’s 10. @Creighton 237. South Dakota 204. North Florida —Diamond Head Classic--- 112. Murray State 133./198. Charlotte/Hawaii 123./125./95./174. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland 275. Southern aphilso1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphilso1 Posted Tuesday at 06:00 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:00 PM 1 through 18 in the conference are only separated by 62 spots. Truly, any team can win any night in conference play. December can't come soon enough, it's gonna be fun! millerhusker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGHANSEN Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM Since every team has played a game, KenPom has his full rankings out. Nebraska ranks 16 in average height and 25 in experience. Our non-con schedule ranks 211. hhcmatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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