2024 B1G Tourney

[KarlHessEatMy....]

These refs that did Indiana and Penn State last night have not slowed down in the Mich St Purdue game. I have never seen so many fouls be called. Mich St will have a cpl three guys foul out by the end of the game. 

[hskr4life]

Wonder who does our game… probably the referees that did the early games Thursday?

[AuroranHusker]

8 minutes ago, KarlHessEatMy.... said:

These refs that did Indiana and Penn State last night have not slowed down in the Mich St Purdue game. I have never seen so many fouls be called. Mich St will have a cpl three guys foul out by the end of the game. 

 

Last time that MSU-PU faced off, Edey drew 16 fouls. Sheesh!

[Ron Mexico]

Potential 8/9 seed vs 1 seed in the second round....

I watched parts of UConn and Houston play and oh my those 2 teams are really good. I mean really really good. I don't want any part of those 2 teams.

I haven't watched either NCarolina or Tennessee play so maybe others can chime in.

 

We need to win some games and move out of the 8/9 seed. I'm now convinced there is no way we end up as a 10 seed. Right now I think we are a high 9 low 8 seed no matter what we do in the BTT. 2 wins I think would for sure move us to a 7 seed with an outside chance of 1 win moving ups up to a 7 provided we play Illinois in the semi-finals and the game is close. I'm not convinced that winning the BTT would move us any higher than a 7. I think that everybody has their mind made up on us as far as seeding goes.

[Art Vandalay]

31 minutes ago, KarlHessEatMy.... said:

These refs that did Indiana and Penn State last night have not slowed down in the Mich St Purdue game. I have never seen so many fouls be called. Mich St will have a cpl three guys foul out by the end of the game. 

These guys are pure garbage. Why do they work so hard to ruin a good game

[AuroranHusker]

31 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Potential 8/9 seed vs 1 seed in the second round....

I watched parts of UConn and Houston play and oh my those 2 teams are really good. I mean really really good. I don't want any part of those 2 teams.

I haven't watched either NCarolina or Tennessee play so maybe others can chime in.

 

We need to win some games and move out of the 8/9 seed. I'm now convinced there is no way we end up as a 10 seed. Right now I think we are a high 9 low 8 seed no matter what we do in the BTT. 2 wins I think would for sure move us to a 7 seed with an outside chance of 1 win moving ups up to a 7 provided we play Illinois in the semi-finals and the game is close. I'm not convinced that winning the BTT would move us any higher than a 7. I think that everybody has their mind made up on us as far as seeding goes.

 

I've watched a bunch of UNC and a little of Tenn. I wouldn't be as scared of either of them as comparing than to either UConn or UH, which are both scary good.

 

I agree with your seeding assessment. If NU wants to play in Omaha, it's going to be as a 7-seed. Definitely not as a 10-seed.

 

Edited March 15, 2024 by AuroranHusker

[Art Vandalay]

4 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

I've watched a bunch of UNC and a little of Tenn. I wouldn't be as scared of either of them as comparing than to either UConn or UH, which are both scary good.

 

I agree with your seeding assessment. If NU wants to play in Omaha, it's going to be as a 7-seed. Definitely not as a 10-seed.

 

I agree but would be more worried playing UNC. They are very well rounded and play defense. Tenn relies a lot on Knecht because he is incredible but he has an off game here and there and if he is not on they can be had.

 

still really want that 7 seed.

[AuroranHusker]

Just now, Art Vandalay said:

I agree but would be more worried playing UNC. They are very well rounded and play defense. Tenn relies a lot on Knecht because he is incredible but he has an off game here and there and if he is not on they can be had.

 

still really want that 7 seed.

 

I think the UNC hype will get them a 1-seed, not sure they deserve it, that's all I'm saying... they do play D, for certain.

Definitely need that 7-seed if NU were to play in Omaha. Pummel Indiana and eke out a dub vs ILL and I think they're 'N" Omaha!! (*wishful thinking*)

[Cazzie22]

To quote Al Davis, “Just win baby!”

[jimmykc]

Braden Smith out with lower leg injury puts the tourney outcome in an entirely different light, depending on the seriousness of the damage. 

[jdw]

Guy just made the full cort put and he only got $1800

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[jdw]

These refs that did Indiana and Penn State last night have not slowed down in the Mich St Purdue game. I have never seen so many fouls be called. Mich St will have a cpl three guys foul out by the end of the game. 

The problem isn't the fouls they are calling today it's that they haven't called them all year so they think they can get away with it. It's why the big ten underperforms in the tournament.

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[HuskerFever]

Many possessions into this game (2+ game minutes), Wisconsin and Northwestern are on pace for [checks calculator] 0-0 by the end of this game.

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, jdw said:

Guy just made the full cort put and he only got $1800

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Equivalent of hitting a bonus game on a $100 slot pull and only winning like $500 bucks.  Looks like a lot, but definitely isn’t worth it for what you put in to get there.  Lol!

[jayschool]

Official Availability Report

Big Ten Tournament Quarterfinals

Wisconsin Out

Hepburn (Boo-Boo)

Northwestern Probable

Buie (Boo)

[HuskerFever]

We're in for a real treat if the top bracket is Purdue / Northwestern. Should be some real grind-it-out tough basketball.

 

Now we just have to take care of our own business tonight.

[Nighthawk]

2 hours ago, Art Vandalay said:

I agree but would be more worried playing UNC. They are very well rounded and play defense. Tenn relies a lot on Knecht because he is incredible but he has an off game here and there and if he is not on they can be had.

 

still really want that 7 seed.

I'm probably in the minority of one...but even if we were to get beat...a Nebraska/UNC or a Nebraska/Duke game are two of my dream games.  They are at the top of my, I believe, never-played list. 

[HuskerFever]

25 minutes ago, jayschool said:

Official Availability Report

Big Ten Tournament Quarterfinals

Wisconsin Out

Hepburn (Boo-Boo)

Northwestern Probable

Buie (Boo)

 

Now downgraded to:

 

Buie (Boo Boo)

[hhcmatt]

9 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Now downgraded to:

 

Buie (Boo Boo)

 

I wonder if Hepburn has ever asked Buie how he handles all the booing

[HuskerFever]

BTN just showed an interesting stat:

 

4-seeds: 19-24 all-time (worst among top-8 seeds)

 

Last 4-seed win: #4 Wisc def. #13 Neb (2019)

[Bugeaters1]

 

[HuskerFever]

17 hours ago, millerhusker said:

They say it’s hard to beat a team for the third time in the same year. Is there any data to back that up or is that just something people say? 

 

Lucky for us (and I suppose me, if I was going to analyze the data without this), we have an answer from FiveThirtyEight. They collected 20 years of college basketball data.

 

Note: There was a separate study that found the 3rd matchup in NFL games no more or less difficult than the first two.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-really-is-harder-to-beat-a-team-the-third-time-in-mens-college-basketball/

 

In the first meeting between any two teams, regardless of whether they played again, the slightly better team won 54.7 percent of the time; when teams that played before met a second time, the better team’s chances went down just slightly, to 54.1 percent.

 

But when two evenly matched teams meet for a third time in the same season, their previous results matter. When the teams split their first two games, the better team won 57.3 percent of the time; when the better team lost the previous two meetings, that team avenged those defeats at a 56.7 percent clip. But when the better team won both previous matchups, the third was a true toss-up — the better teams won only about 49.3 percent of the time.

[jdw]

 
Lucky for us (and I suppose me, if I was going to analyze the data without this), we have an answer from FiveThirtyEight. They collected 20 years of college basketball data.
 
Note: There was a separate study that found the 3rd matchup in NFL games no more or less difficult than the first two.
 
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-really-is-harder-to-beat-a-team-the-third-time-in-mens-college-basketball/
 
In the first meeting between any two teams, regardless of whether they played again, the slightly better team won 54.7 percent of the time; when teams that played before met a second time, the better team’s chances went down just slightly, to 54.1 percent.
 
But when two evenly matched teams meet for a third time in the same season, their previous results matter. When the teams split their first two games, the better team won 57.3 percent of the time; when the better team lost the previous two meetings, that team avenged those defeats at a 56.7 percent clip. But when the better team won both previous matchups, the third was a true toss-up — the better teams won only about 49.3 percent of the time.

How did they determine the better team.

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[HuskerFever]

5 minutes ago, jdw said:

How did they determine the better team.

 

The short answer is adjusted efficiency metrics from KenPom.com. It's worth noting that in their analysis, this pattern held true no matter what "bin" of KenPom rankings they were looking at (kind of a "top-to-bottom" commonality in this 3-game behavior).

[tcp]

1 hour ago, Nighthawk said:

I'm probably in the minority of one...but even if we were to get beat...a Nebraska/UNC or a Nebraska/Duke game are two of my dream games.  They are at the top of my, I believe, never-played list. 

 

A whole lot of my Lincoln peeps from the80s would love those matchups, especially Duke (the semi-official team of anyone from Lincoln East/High)