KenPom 2023-2024 KenPom Rankings Thread

[HuskerActuary]

If on Teamcast you give us wins for our 8 easiest games left and losses for the other 6, we are the first team out. That would be 20-11. Switching one of those to a win (21-10), we would be the last 10 seed. That feels optimistic to me - I still think we need 21 regular season wins + at least one meaningful conference tournament win to have a shot.

[AGHANSEN]

KenPom still has us going 10-10 in conference. 

The final seven games are favorable as well.

 

[hskr4life]

Suckage continues this morning.  That NET is nasty and presents an up hill climb.  3-3, 0-2, 3-0, 7-0 are the quad records as of today.

 

KenPom- 51

Trank- 49

Hasla- 46

NET- 58 (Rutgers dropped too?!?)

[49r]

Our overall strength of schedule is now into the double digits, 99.  It is somewhat comforting, I guess, to see that there is still only 2 games in the loss column separating #2 and #14 in the Big Ten so a lot can still happen.   #94 Indiana is sitting at 5th in the league, #59 Northwestern is 3rd while #45 Ohio State is sitting in 12th and #18 Michigan State is sitting at 11th.  I would be shocked to see that pattern hold until the end of the season.

 

Ken drops us to 20-11 (10-10).  Torvik does too, 20-11 (10-10).

 

San José State lost at home again in another close one...and move up to #170. 

 

Here we go.

 

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KenPom rankings as of 1-18-24

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B1G (3-4):
2. Purdue - W
11. Wisconsin - L
12. Illinois
18. Michigan State - W
43. Iowa - L
45. Ohio State
51. Nebraska
59. Northwestern
68. Maryland
72. Michigan
92. Rutgers - L
93. Minnesota - L

94. Indiana - W
106. Penn State

 

 

Non-Conference (10-1):
340. Lindenwood - W

344. Florida A&M - W

---Cornhusker Classic---
284. Rider - W
235. Stony Brook - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
159. Oregon State - W

 

---Cornhusker Classic---

108. Duquesne - W

 

233. Cal State Fullerton - W

17. Creighton - L
54. @Kansas State - W
294. North Dakota - W

334. South Carolina State - W

[OmahaHusker]

2 hours ago, HuskerActuary said:

If on Teamcast you give us wins for our 8 easiest games left and losses for the other 6, we are the first team out. That would be 20-11. Switching one of those to a win (21-10), we would be the last 10 seed. That feels optimistic to me - I still think we need 21 regular season wins + at least one meaningful conference tournament win to have a shot.

 

T-Rank is good for looking at similar resumes and seeing where those teams of the past ended up in the field or not, but I don't like using them for projected field. There's a reason they're close to last in accuracy rankings on bracketmatrix. 

[Nebrasketball1979]

Up two spots to #49 after the win and NW only dropped two spots to #61...so solidly a Q2 win and should remain that way.

[49r]

Our overall strength of schedule jumps up again, this time to #90.  

 

No changes in the conference to speak of except Ohio State and Iowa swap spots, everyone else for the time being anyway is fairly locked in.

 

Ken prediction stays at 20-11 (10-10).  Torvik does too, 20-11 (10-10).

 

San José State doesn't play this weekend.  They stay at #170. 

 

Here we go.

 

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KenPom rankings as of 1-21-24

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B1G (4-4):
2. Purdue - W
11. Wisconsin - L
10. Illinois
19. Michigan State - W
44. Ohio State
45. Iowa - L
50. Nebraska
59. Northwestern - W
68. Maryland
79. Michigan
91. Rutgers - L
94. Minnesota - L

96. Indiana - W
108. Penn State

 

 

Non-Conference (10-1):
351. Lindenwood - W

344. Florida A&M - W

---Cornhusker Classic---
297. Rider - W
222. Stony Brook - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
175. Oregon State - W

 

---Cornhusker Classic---

105. Duquesne - W

 

219. Cal State Fullerton - W

14. Creighton - L
56. @Kansas State - W
276. North Dakota - W

329. South Carolina State - W

[49r]

48th, 49th, and 50th are separated by one one hundredth of a point right now.

 

 

48	Memphis	Amer	15-3	+14.13	115.4	49	101.2	65	71.8	30	+.082	50	+4.64	51	109.1	69	104.5	47	+6.16	35
49	Drake	MVC	16-3	+14.13	116.0	44	101.9	78	67.6	203	+.060	83	-1.45	221	106.0	238	107.5	206	-2.36	250
50	Nebraska	B10	14-5	+14.12	117.3	30	103.2	99	68.7	137	+.045	101	+2.96	90	108.1	107	105.2	80	-8.35	355
51	Princeton	Ivy	15-1	+13.94	118.4	21	104.4	120	64.6	327	+.052	89	+0.49	151	106.8	177	106.3	138	+3.07	89

Edited January 21, 2024 by 49r

[hhcmatt]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

48th, 49th, and 50th are separated by one one hundredth of a point right now.

 

We might go to 48th just because Michigan St is railing Maryland 

[roscoe]

16 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

We might go to 48th just because Michigan St is railing Maryland 

Any idea who Maryland plays in next home game? And when is last time they lost 2 in a row at home?

[Bugeaters1]

35 minutes ago, roscoe said:

Any idea who Maryland plays in next home game? And when is last time they lost 2 in a row at home?

They play Iowa.

[hhcmatt]

53 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

We might go to 48th just because Michigan St is railing Maryland 

 

Didn't hedge my bets making this post and Maryland-MSU looking like it will go down to the wire

[roscoe]

Was being sarcastic. Next game versus Iowa, next home versus Huskers. 

[49r]

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

 

We might go to 48th just because Michigan St is railing Maryland 

 

[Bugeaters1]

6 minutes ago, roscoe said:

Was being sarcastic. Next game versus Iowa, next home versus Huskers. 

I didn't look that close. I just seen that they played Iowa.

[hhcmatt]

19 hours ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

Up two spots to #49 after the win and NW only dropped two spots to #61...so solidly a Q2 win and should remain that way.

 

KenPom rankings don't dictate Quadrant wins, that's the NET rankings. ATM NW is at 77 so this is technically a Q3 win that is almost a Q2 win.

[roscoe]

7 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said:

I didn't look that close. I just seen that they played Iowa.

All good. 

MSU tried to blow it. So have to try and give Terps 2 home losses in a row in building where Willard was 25-2 coming into todays game.

[hskr4life]

28 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

KenPom rankings don't dictate Quadrant wins, that's the NET rankings. ATM NW is at 77 so this is technically a Q3 win that is almost a Q2 win.

KSU also dropped after squeaking past Oklahoma State.  They lead the Big 12 conference!!  However, they’ve only beaten bottom tier teams outside of Baylor.  They now play like 5/6 against ranked teams.

[SkersHoops]

Kevin Cross and Tulane told Memphis to move over! 21, 7, 5, 2, and 2 for Cross.

[49r]

Rutgers got blasted by the Illini but only drop 3 spots to 94.

[hskr4life]

Thought this was a good explanation of the NET from some random person on Reddit.  At the end of the day, our NET ranking isn’t going to dictate whether we get an NCAA birth or not.  The NCAA has left out teams in the 40’s, teams with bad OOC SOS, and teams with bad losses.  The NCAA has taken teams in the 60’s and 70’s who have better OOC SOS and wins, no bad losses, and have lots of Q1 wins.

 

Our Purdue win is looking better and better the more I think about it as a statement win.  We really could use another (Wisco or Illinois) but we just need to win.  We check some good (OOC road win, no bad losses) and bad (OOC SOS) boxes.  Safe to say piling up Q1 wins (most will have to come on the road) will be important down the stretch.

 

 

[hskr4life]

[Nebrasketball1979]

19 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

KenPom rankings don't dictate Quadrant wins, that's the NET rankings. ATM NW is at 77 so this is technically a Q3 win that is almost a Q2 win.

 

Yeah, bad assumption that the Net and Kenpom were relatively close but I suspect these tighten up as the year goes on and would be really surprised if NW isn't Q2 in the Net when it's all said and done.

[hskr4life]

Question for those in the know about SOS’s… does your Non-Con SOS change based on how teams do the remainder of the year.  For instance, UND is doing not terrible in the Summit.  If they go on and win the dang thing, could that help our Non-con SOS?

[hskr4life]

Also— if anyone is interested in our team sheet outside of Quads…

 

 

Edited January 22, 2024 by hskr4life