2023 PG Simeon Wilcher -> UNC->St John

[hhcmatt]

1 minute ago, 49r said:

Simeon is 1 & done though right?

 

Hasn't played out that way.  He's barely playing for a roster that Pitino just called trash.

[AuroranHusker]

44 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Hasn't played out that way.  He's barely playing for a roster that Pitino just called trash.

 

Does he need to patch up a relationship with an older sibling... Nebraska's specialty this year with the Allicks.

 

[thrasher31]

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

https://www.nj.com/sports/2024/02/after-latest-st-johns-loss-rick-pitino-laments-shtty-facilities-lack-of-toughness-and-lost-season-due-to-recruiting.html?outputType=amp

One of the things I've kept in the back of my head is the off chance that CJ and simeon go play together for cjs last year in college. My initial concern was CJ going to st John's to be close to home with simeon. Simeon has had moments this year, but it is not consistent enough, so I think him portalling out may be a legitimate option.

 

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a natural PG here, and his stats at st John's are not something I love. I'm not sure we reached out when he left UNC either, so after a worse year at st John's, not sure. But definitely something to track. The connection with JLaw may help also. 

[hhcmatt]

31 minutes ago, thrasher31 said:

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a natural PG here

 

That's our jam!

[millerhusker]

Take him in a heartbeat. He was the MVP of the EYBL Peach Jam, an event full of 5-star future lottery picks. Besides all that, just watching his film he was my favorite PG of that class. Tenacious defender with length and quickness. 

[Huskerpapa]

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

Take him in a heartbeat. He was the MVP of the EYBL Peach Jam, an event full of 5-star future lottery picks. Besides all that, just watching his film he was my favorite PG of that class. Tenacious defender with length and quickness. 

Legit question then...why isn't he playing on a team where the coach is lambasting much of the team for their slow feet, lack of toughness, et al?  It doesn't make sense.

[millerhusker]

37 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

Legit question then...why isn't he playing on a team where the coach is lambasting much of the team for their slow feet, lack of toughness, et al?  It doesn't make sense.

It is a legit question. Who knows. But I don't think any of the players that Pitino threw under the bus in the press conference play Wilcher's position. They were all wings and bigs. Pitino handpicked a bunch of 4th and 5th year portal guards and brought some along from his previous school.

Maybe Wilcher is in the doghouse for whatever reason. By all accounts the Wilchers are good people and CJ would make him put his head down and go to work. 

[Norm Peterson]

2 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Take him in a heartbeat. He was the MVP of the EYBL Peach Jam, an event full of 5-star future lottery picks. Besides all that, just watching his film he was my favorite PG of that class. Tenacious defender with length and quickness. 

 

If we're going the route of former 5-stars, why not add Omaha Biliew to the mix? Neither are playing much where they are. Both were recruited here and had at least *some* interest. Something to ponder, anyway.

[hhcmatt]

1 minute ago, millerhusker said:

It is a legit question. Who knows. But I don't think any of the players that Pitino threw under the bus in the press conference play Wilcher's position. They were all wings and bigs. Pitino handpicked a bunch of 4th and 5th year portal guards and brought some along from his previous school.

Maybe Wilcher is in the doghouse for whatever reason. By all accounts the Wilchers are good people and CJ would make him put his head down and go to work. 

 

To piggy back on that he brought his starting PG Daniss Jenkins from Iona had he's had the job from day one.  If Jenkins comes back for his extra covid year, he's likely to have the starting job again.  Otherwise if you cut through all the Pitino bluster he is a defensive coach and it's also likely that Wilcher isn't elite enough defensively to make up for his lack of experience. 

[millerhusker]

2 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

To piggy back on that he brought his starting PG Daniss Jenkins from Iona had he's had the job from day one.  If Jenkins comes back for his extra covid year, he's likely to have the starting job again.  Otherwise if you cut through all the Pitino bluster he is a defensive coach and it's also likely that Wilcher isn't elite enough defensively to make up for his lack of experience. 

Jordan Dingle, another combo guard, could also come back for a 6th year. 

[ShortDust]

15 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Hasn't played out that way.  He's barely playing for a roster that Pitino just called trash.

This one intrigues me.

[Dead Dog Alley]

17 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

If we're going the route of former 5-stars, why not add Omaha Biliew to the mix? Neither are playing much where they are. Both were recruited here and had at least *some* interest. Something to ponder, anyway.

 

Omaha Biliew got beat out of the Iowa State rotation by a guy who was the second leading scorer at Peawaukee High School, behind Nick Janowski. 

 

Ergo, Nick Janowski >>> Omaha Biliew.

[OmahaHusker]

17 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

To piggy back on that he brought his starting PG Daniss Jenkins from Iona had he's had the job from day one.  If Jenkins comes back for his extra covid year, he's likely to have the starting job again.  Otherwise if you cut through all the Pitino bluster he is a defensive coach and it's also likely that Wilcher isn't elite enough defensively to make up for his lack of experience. 

 

This is exactly it. In Pitino's eyes, these freshman are tough to play for long stretches defensively when they don't know how to comprehend the scouting report as quickly like these older guys. 

 

 

[Norm Peterson]

3 minutes ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

 

Omaha Biliew got beat out of the Iowa State rotation by a guy who was the second leading scorer at Peawaukee High School, behind Nick Janowski. 

 

Ergo, Nick Janowski >>> Omaha Biliew.

 

They play different positions.

[hhcmatt]

7 minutes ago, OmahaHusker said:

 

This is exactly it. In Pitino's eyes, these freshman are tough to play for long stretches defensively when they don't know how to comprehend the scouting report as quickly like these older guys. 

 

 

 

Here's another for the Wlicher staying at St John's train

 

 

[The Polish Rifle]

20 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

To piggy back on that he brought his starting PG Daniss Jenkins from Iona had he's had the job from day one.  If Jenkins comes back for his extra covid year, he's likely to have the starting job again.  Otherwise if you cut through all the Pitino bluster he is a defensive coach and it's also likely that Wilcher isn't elite enough defensively to make up for his lack of experience. 

Isn't this Jenkins COVID Year? 2 at Pacific, 1 at Juco, 1 at Iona, 1 at St. Johns.

[hhcmatt]

14 minutes ago, The Polish Rifle said:

Isn't this Jenkins COVID Year? 2 at Pacific, 1 at Juco, 1 at Iona, 1 at St. Johns.

 

You're right, I didn't catch the year of Juco. There goes that theory. 

[royalfan]

https://nypost.com/2024/02/20/sports/rick-pitino-has-high-hopes-for-st-johns-freshman-simeon-wilcher/amp/

[hhcmatt]

7 hours ago, royalfan said:

https://nypost.com/2024/02/20/sports/rick-pitino-has-high-hopes-for-st-johns-freshman-simeon-wilcher/amp/

 

Following up giving out black eyes in the press with flowers and 'i'm sorry baby I didn't mean it' in the press

[Huskerpapa]

28 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Following up giving out black eyes in the press with flowers and 'i'm sorry baby I didn't mean it' in the press

Yeah, perhaps I am totally wrong; but if I am being recruited and I see comments like that by the head coach, I would think twice before committing. 

[AuroranHusker]

Rick Pitino is a legendary coach, maybe he's best suited for NYC. Tough love is how others would characterize his comments. I would seriously doubt he's having much trouble recruiting, tbh.

[Swan88]

In last night’s 90 to 85 win over Georgetown, Simeon Witcher played 7 minutes, scored 7 points on three shots and 2 of 2 from the line, and committed 3 fouls.

[AuroranHusker]

1 hour ago, Swan88 said:

In last night’s 90 to 85 win over Georgetown, Simeon Witcher played 7 minutes, scored 7 points on three shots and 2 of 2 from the line, and committed 3 fouls.

 

Whoa. I guess Ricky was right, he ain't ready to D up anyone !

 

[Dead Dog Alley]

On 2/21/2024 at 8:49 AM, hhcmatt said:

 

Following up giving out black eyes in the press with flowers and 'i'm sorry baby I didn't mean it' in the press

 

[royalfan]

https://www.nj.com/sports/2024/02/nj-star-simeon-wilcher-has-no-plans-to-leave-st-johns-my-time-is-going-to-come.html?outputType=amp