2023 PF Omaha Biliew -> Iowa St

[Swan88]

Would Omaha Biliew and William Kyle III be an either/or possibility (assuming we were to have a shot at both)?

[hhcmatt]

 

 

[Norm Peterson]

Culture. Fit.

[ShortDust]

Im really hoping Fred goes after him again.

[Norm Peterson]

12 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

Culture. Fit.

I don’t mean to imply that he would not be a good fit with our team culture. I do mean to suggest that culture and fit should be priorities. And given his limited production at Iowa State, I wouldn’t just jump on the “he’s a former five star; therefore, he must be really good” bandwagon. I would expect the staff to do their due diligence in trying to assess what was going on with him that he didn’t succeed in Iowa State and isn’t sticking around.

[AuroranHusker]

On 5/18/2022 at 9:46 PM, hskr4life said:

We can put this thread to rest

 

NEVER!

Where are the pitchforks?! lol

[AuroranHusker]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

I don’t mean to imply that he would not be a good fit with our team culture. I do mean to suggest that culture and fit should be priorities. And given his limited production at Iowa State, I wouldn’t just jump on the “he’s a former five star; therefore, he must be really good” bandwagon. I would expect the staff to do their due diligence in trying to assess what was going on with him that he didn’t succeed in Iowa State and isn’t sticking around.

 

ISU had a bunch of dudes who deserved the P.T. I'd say it could be as simple as that....

 

[AuroranHusker]

22 hours ago, Swan88 said:

Would Omaha Biliew and William Kyle III be an either/or possibility (assuming we were to have a shot at both)?

 

And both were in the Omaha bracket of March Madness, so Mr. Omaha is at least familiar with the state of Nebraska.... on some level. lol

[hhcmatt]

After sifting through a bunch of ISU posts the scuttle I can find is:

great athlete, really gets up and down the floor, long arms and can jump, but really struggled with catching and shooting the ball around the basket

 

He's a guy *if* he can put it together becomes a high level NBA player but currently is out the door because he didn't have nearly the game that Milan Momcilovic possessed day one and who knows if he ever will.

[hhcmatt]

Here is a more complete evaluation

 

The evaluation of him wasn't wrong, and Omaha certainly isn't lacking effort... but sometimes a player that looks primed to make huge strides in reality may be closer to their ceiling than expected. Xavier Foster is a prime example - over 3 full seasons of playing time, he scored a combined 32 pts in his career.

Omaha is a great kid, Iowa State gave him every opportunity and support possible, he maximized his effort... but unfortunately he just didn't continue to see progress towards what you'd like to see in a contributor. He was a unique 5-star because of his athleticism and defense (at the HS level) and hope that he could develop some sort of offensive game at a high-level caliber - or at least net positive. Unfortunately that hasn't happened. This is best for both sides.

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I would be fairly shocked if Omaha is back. He hasn’t developed in practice as much as he needed to (actually very little) and he knows even with a ton of effort he’s still only going to get to what you like to see in a true freshman with 8 mins a game max. His hands aren’t getting any softer, he’s still too slow on defense in practice and his offensive game, which was almost non existent for a Big 12 level player coming in and the thing everybody knew he needed to pray got better, has not developed much at all. He gives a ton of effort, but between his handlers and reality, I don’t see him staying.

Some guys show massive 5 star potential, but unfortunately sometimes reality ends up being a much different outcome.

[Huskerpapa]

11 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Here is a more complete evaluation

 

The evaluation of him wasn't wrong, and Omaha certainly isn't lacking effort... but sometimes a player that looks primed to make huge strides in reality may be closer to their ceiling than expected. Xavier Foster is a prime example - over 3 full seasons of playing time, he scored a combined 32 pts in his career.

Omaha is a great kid, Iowa State gave him every opportunity and support possible, he maximized his effort... but unfortunately he just didn't continue to see progress towards what you'd like to see in a contributor. He was a unique 5-star because of his athleticism and defense (at the HS level) and hope that he could develop some sort of offensive game at a high-level caliber - or at least net positive. Unfortunately that hasn't happened. This is best for both sides.

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I would be fairly shocked if Omaha is back. He hasn’t developed in practice as much as he needed to (actually very little) and he knows even with a ton of effort he’s still only going to get to what you like to see in a true freshman with 8 mins a game max. His hands aren’t getting any softer, he’s still too slow on defense in practice and his offensive game, which was almost non existent for a Big 12 level player coming in and the thing everybody knew he needed to pray got better, has not developed much at all. He gives a ton of effort, but between his handlers and reality, I don’t see him staying.

Some guys show massive 5 star potential, but unfortunately sometimes reality ends up being a much different outcome.

Sorta sounds like the Lloyd storyline.

[jimmykc]

12 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Here is a more complete evaluation

 

The evaluation of him wasn't wrong, and Omaha certainly isn't lacking effort... but sometimes a player that looks primed to make huge strides in reality may be closer to their ceiling than expected. Xavier Foster is a prime example - over 3 full seasons of playing time, he scored a combined 32 pts in his career.

Omaha is a great kid, Iowa State gave him every opportunity and support possible, he maximized his effort... but unfortunately he just didn't continue to see progress towards what you'd like to see in a contributor. He was a unique 5-star because of his athleticism and defense (at the HS level) and hope that he could develop some sort of offensive game at a high-level caliber - or at least net positive. Unfortunately that hasn't happened. This is best for both sides.

From Premium Posts:

I would be fairly shocked if Omaha is back. He hasn’t developed in practice as much as he needed to (actually very little) and he knows even with a ton of effort he’s still only going to get to what you like to see in a true freshman with 8 mins a game max. His hands aren’t getting any softer, he’s still too slow on defense in practice and his offensive game, which was almost non existent for a Big 12 level player coming in and the thing everybody knew he needed to pray got better, has not developed much at all. He gives a ton of effort, but between his handlers and reality, I don’t see him staying.

Some guys show massive 5 star potential, but unfortunately sometimes reality ends up being a much different outcome.

This makes him sound a lot more like a clone of Diop. Not sure we need another project for next year.

[hhcmatt]

12 minutes ago, jimmykc said:

This makes him sound a lot more like a clone of Diop. Not sure we need another project for next year.

 

Really depends on the cost because I'd still want a project around for our 12/13 scholarship

[AuroranHusker]

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Really depends on the cost because I'd still want a project around for our 12/13 scholarship

 

Agreed, a flyer on a 5-star is the juice worth the squeeze....

 

[Huskerpapa]

17 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

Agreed, a flyer on a 5-star is the juice worth the squeeze....

 

Not sure why a "dude" would leave a team where he was a project to go to another team where he would be a project?  Sounds like he may be a Summitt League candidate.  He could hone his game and then move up if/when the time is right.

[B-town hoopsfan]

48 minutes ago, jimmykc said:

This makes him sound a lot more like a clone of Diop. Not sure we need another project for next year.

Just reading through ISU Fans comments and watching Diop this year I think I’d rather have Diop. He’s 3 inches taller, I don’t feel there’s any concerns about his hands or his shooting for a 5 guy.  It’s just about getting him in the weight room and more experience.  The thing about Omaha is that he’s unlikely to start for us IMO So why come be the 3rd or 4th guy off our bench when it sounds like the main thing he needs is on court time.  He should transfer down for atleast a year IMO

[hhcmatt]

1 minute ago, B-town hoopsfan said:

He should transfer down for atleast a year IMO

 

DePaul

[AuroranHusker]

34 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

Not sure why a "dude" would leave a team where he was a project to go to another team where he would be a project?  Sounds like he may be a Summitt League candidate.  He could hone his game and then move up if/when the time is right.

 

Nothing wrong with that, either. It's a free-agent world...... I gotta remember that part, lol.

[AuroranHusker]

31 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

DePaul

 

Yeah, a 3-29 DePaul is definitely 'down'....

[hhcmatt]

On 4/1/2024 at 11:38 AM, jimmykc said:

This makes him sound a lot more like a clone of Diop. Not sure we need another project for next year.

 

Good and bad news there....

 

 

[Swan88]

From On3:

 

Iowa State F Omaha Biliew

Intel: Omaha Biliew entered the college ranks with lofty expectations. The 6-8 forward is a former five-star prospect but didn’t necessarily get to show off his ability in Aimes this season. 

Nebraska is the school I’ve heard mentioned the most with him, along with Kansas State. 

The former McDonald’s All-American is looking to make a big impact during his sophomore season.

[hhcmatt]

4 minutes ago, Swan88 said:

ability in Aimes

 

The mayor of Ames is a known fixer of Aimes

[AuroranHusker]

42 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

The mayor of Ames is a known fixer of Aimes

 

Freddy aims to snag an Omaha from Ames.

 

[Swan88]

This video is from a year ago.

[millerhusker]

2 hours ago, Swan88 said:

This video is from a year ago.

His high school film is about as good as it gets. Unlike many players who are labeled 5 stars just because of their length and athleticism, he actually looks natural and fluid with the ball.