Trevor Lakes is N

[Huskerone]

11 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

I'm cautiously optimistic.  Seems to be a carbon copy of Kavas from a year ago, and Kavas didn't really pan out.  I am curious what position he will defend when on D, and whether his shot will transition to P5 basketball. 

 

I like the fact that he has a year to sit out prior to contributing; hopefully that will be the key to increased productivity compared to Kavas.

I was just about to make a similar post regarding the Kavas comparison.  I remember telling friends, "wasn't Kavas supposed to be a 3 point specialist"?  I'm hoping Hoiberg has had more time to evaluate this go round, and Lakes>Kavas.

[Norm Peterson]

17 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

I'm cautiously optimistic.  Seems to be a carbon copy of Kavas from a year ago, and Kavas didn't really pan out.  I am curious what position he will defend when on D, and whether his shot will transition to P5 basketball. 

 

I like the fact that he has a year to sit out prior to contributing; hopefully that will be the key to increased productivity compared to Kavas.

 

Kavas had a clumsy looking shot. So many moving parts. It's easy for that kind of shot to break down when you are under pressure or you're missing. This kid's mechanics are very simple and repeatable. I expect he'll be more consistent than Kavas.

[REDitus]

9 minutes ago, Huskerone said:

I was just about to make a similar post regarding the Kavas comparison.  I remember telling friends, "wasn't Kavas supposed to be a 3 point specialist"?  I'm hoping Hoiberg has had more time to evaluate this go round, and Lakes>Kavas.

I was shocked that Kavas didn't shoot well given his history.   I think maybe he rushed his shots the past year due to the competition.    I also wonder if the change in the 3-pt distance had an impact.  Maybe he was dialed into a distance?  Have to think it was mental.  Maybe crowd size?

 

I think Lakes may be a little different as he seems to be able to hit from any distance and he gets his shot off fairly quick.   That's my hope.  

[aphilso1]

17 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Kavas had a clumsy looking shot. So many moving parts. It's easy for that kind of shot to break down when you are under pressure or you're missing. This kid's mechanics are very simple and repeatable. I expect he'll be more consistent than Kavas.

 

Matej's shot may have looked clumsy, but it went in at a ridiculous rate in Seattle for three years.  There was a good reason that we were all excited last year by the Kavas pickup.  Purely from a body type standpoint (6'7" 230 lbs vs 6'8" 200 lbs), I do think Lakes looks like a guy that won't get embarrassed as much on the defensive end of the floor as Kavas.  That was a major issue with Matej -- he needed to produce at a pretty high clip on offense to make up for his deficiencies on defense.  Now granted, I have yet to see any kind of tape on Lakes on defense, so this is purely speculative just based on the "getting off the bus" test. 

 

9 minutes ago, REDitus said:

I was shocked that Kavas didn't shoot well given his history.   I think maybe he rushed his shots the past year due to the competition.    I also wonder if the change in the 3-pt distance had an impact.  Maybe he was dialed into a distance?  Have to think it was mental.  Maybe crowd size?

 

I think Lakes may be a little different as he seems to be able to hit from any distance and he gets his shot off fairly quick.   That's my hope.  

 

Personally, I think that Kavas' struggles started on the defensive end of the floor.  It didn't take long to realize that he was a major liability on D for us, so for him to be a "net positive" for us he needed to more than make up for it on the offensive end.  And as we all know, his offensive game was fairly limited other than from deep.  That puts a ton of pressure on each individual 3pt shot attempt.  I imagine every attempt started to feel like a "must make" shot.  So like you, my theory is that his struggles were mental.  I just think the reason was different.

[REDitus]

15 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

 

Matej's shot may have looked clumsy, but it went in at a ridiculous rate in Seattle for three years.  There was a good reason that we were all excited last year by the Kavas pickup.  Purely from a body type standpoint (6'7" 230 lbs vs 6'8" 200 lbs), I do think Lakes looks like a guy that won't get embarrassed as much on the defensive end of the floor as Kavas.  That was a major issue with Matej -- he needed to produce at a pretty high clip on offense to make up for his deficiencies on defense.  Now granted, I have yet to see any kind of tape on Lakes on defense, so this is purely speculative just based on the "getting off the bus" test. 

 

 

Personally, I think that Kavas' struggles started on the defensive end of the floor.  It didn't take long to realize that he was a major liability on D for us, so for him to be a "net positive" for us he needed to more than make up for it on the offensive end.  And as we all know, his offensive game was fairly limited other than from deep.  That puts a ton of pressure on each individual 3pt shot attempt.  I imagine every attempt started to feel like a "must make" shot.  So like you, my theory is that his struggles were mental.  I just think the reason was different.

 

Never thought about his defense affecting his offense which certainly can happen.   Good thought. 

[hhcmatt]

Lakes blocked 18 shots last year, 41 in his career. Kavas blocked 19 in his entire college career. 

Rebounding numbers look adequate.

 

Assist/turnover number indicate he was mostly catch and shoot. Maybe that's all we need him to do. Having a year to pick up the offense will help. 

[cjbowbros]

I like this pickup we need shooting badly on this team though if he doesn’t play til 2021 how would I know we’ll have 8 new guys anyway. But there’s got to be a reason he’s still in DII if he were a great athlete everyone would be looking at him. I would guess he will be similar to Kavas on defense. If he’s a little better that’d be great. 
I know it’s not a total one for one trade because of eligibility but I’d take what I’ve seen this guy over Cross any day. At this point in the process I wasn’t sure who we could possibly have left to get so I’ll take it.

 

Just seeing the post above His block shots are encouraging though that maybe more a reflection of the level he was playing at or system he played in. If he played the 5 in the middle of a 2 3 zone it’d be much easier to get blocks than if you are a wing defender. 

Edited April 28, 2020 by cjbowbros

[49r]

15 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Lakes blocked 18 shots last year, 41 in his career. Kavas blocked 19 in his entire college career. 

Rebounding numbers look adequate.

 

Assist/turnover number indicate he was mostly catch and shoot. Maybe that's all we need him to do. Having a year to pick up the offense will help. 

 

Big jump from D2 to D1 though...

[TheKamdyMan]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

 

I guess unless the NCAA decides to go ahead with the 1 time transfer rule change this year?

 He’s content with taking the year off to get bigger, stronger, and faster as well as learning the system. 
 

 Having that year to acclimate will be so much better than what we got out of Kavas. Worst case scenario it’s not a fit and he graduate transfers after the year and no harm no foul. I think he will only be a specific role player for us and that’s all we will need. 

[hhcmatt]

3 minutes ago, TheKamdyMan said:

 Having that year to acclimate will be so much better than what we got out of Kavas.

 

I'm not sure Kavas would have figured out where to be on defense with 4 years here.

[Fullbacksympathy]

Good get.  Strong bodied stretch 4 with a high catch/release.  No mechanics to his shot at all really.  Kavas had a giant windup in comparison which devalued his height.  

 

Between Lakes and Tominaga, we have some serious gunners coming in for ‘21-22.   

[Huskerpapa]

He has a year to further his game skills and adapt his game to high divison one level.  In the meantime, he will work with the scout team to push his new teammates.

[49r]

1 hour ago, LK1 said:

Good get.  Strong bodied stretch 4 with a high catch/release.  No mechanics to his shot at all really.  Kavas had a giant windup in comparison which devalued his height.  

 

Between Lakes and Tominaga, we have some serious gunners coming in for ‘21-22.   

 

Shooter U!

[royalfan]

This guys shot is so much more pure than Kavas.  He is also more athletic than Kavas.  Kavas ugly stroke woukd break down often when rushed, which was probably far more often than while at Seattle,  Lakes isn’t worse than Kavas at anything and significantly better in most departments.  

[REDitus]

With Tominga,Lakes, Lat and Allen as shooters they should really get good spacing.   That gives guys like Banton, King and McGowen room to slash to the basket.

[jayschool]

Against Division I competition in exhibition games in October-November 2019:

• vs. Loyola (Chicago) 7-14 FG, 6-11 3P,  2-2 FT, 22 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals
• vs. Xavier 1-9 FG, 1-8 3P, 3-5 FT, 6 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal
• vs. Butler 5-15 FG, 3-11 3P, 0-0 FT, 13 points, 2 rebounds, 1 block

TOTAL 13.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg, on 11-33 shooting (33 percent) from the field, 10-30 from deep (33 percent) and 5-7 (71 percent) from the line.

 

 

[jayschool]

1 hour ago, REDitus said:

With Tominga,Lakes, Lat and Allen as shooters they should really get good spacing.   That gives guys like Banton, King and McGowen room to slash to the basket.

Is anyone else just jonesing to see a highlight reel of all those guys just shooting free throws? I think last year's experience may have left some deep psychic scars.

[thrasher31]

Think this is a huge get. His shooting and bball IQ will translate. I understand the kavas comparison but Kavas didn't have much time to prepare for P5 play and was clearly outmatched. He had some bright moments in some games. Essentially I see Lakes taking Thor's minutes the following year and transitioning to be the floor stretcher for the drivers (Dalano, Trey, Kobe, etc). On defense as long as he's adequate I think we'll be ok. We were a very easy team to attack on defense last year. When you play 4 guards and a 17 year old center/undersized 4, it's going to be easy to attack on offense. There's only so much you can do. Next year they have legit size, length, strength, and talent. I'm very optimistic about lakes. 

[AuroranHusker]

On 4/16/2020 at 2:28 PM, AuroranHusker said:

 

Duncan Robinson

 

From D-III to Univ. of Michigan, now a Miami Heat 3-pt gunner!

 

 

I'm all 'N' on Trevor Lakes. Pump that three-ball adrenaline straight into my veins.

 

 

[kleitus]

21 hours ago, REDitus said:

With Tominga,Lakes, Lat and Allen as shooters they should really get good spacing.   That gives guys like Banton, King and McGowen room to slash to the basket.

 

If he makes the open 3 at a 40% clip he's an asset.  Because he will get open looks.  

 

Anything else is gravy.

[Norm Peterson]

28 minutes ago, kleitus said:

 

If he makes the open 3 at a 40% clip he's an asset.  Because he will get open looks.  

 

Anything else is gravy.

 

He will get looks. They may or may not be "open." That's what he brings to the table. You can guard him. You can jump in his gym shorts. He's still going to get the shot off and probably be pretty accurate with it.

[49r]

 

The interview with Trevor begins at 20:49

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hol-show-april-29-entire-show/id977872565?i=1000473046875

[Silverbacked1]

Maybe just maybe we have that slower, unathletically, one trick pony,  tall white kid that has beat us soooooo maaaaannnnny times in the past?

 

Sorry Trevor I had to go there, but thanks for picking us and welcome!

[49r]

37 minutes ago, Silverbacked1 said:

Sorry Trevor I had to go there

 

I don't think he'd take your comment as a slight at all, @Silverbacked1.  He mentioned himself in the podcast that he knows he's not as athletic as other guys and has to rely on his basketball IQ to be effective.

[TheKamdyMan]

2 hours ago, Silverbacked1 said:

Maybe just maybe we have that slower, unathletically, one trick pony,  tall white kid that has beat us soooooo maaaaannnnny times in the past?

 

Sorry Trevor I had to go there, but thanks for picking us and welcome!

 If you went and watched his “highlight” tape from HS you’d say that without question he fits your description and that there is no way in hell that guy would ever play D1 basketball someday.