Illinois

[Cazzie22]

Look what he did at Stephen F Austin.  The guy can coach.

[royalfan]

He can coach offense.  And Illinois will have the athletes to be good on defense if they try.  League of great coaches got a touch better yet.  Miles needs to amp up his X and O game somehow.  Oklahoma St. had the most efficient offense in the nation according to some metrics. 

[jimmykc]

Guess we'll see. I'm not sure he is much of an upgrade from Groce.

[Chuck Taylor]

For those who might have wondered: No, he was not at WI while Molinari was.

[uneblinstu]

12 hours ago, Cazzie22 said:

Look what he did at Stephen F Austin.  The guy can coach.

Lots of guys have done well at mid-majors and struggled to win consistently at a high major school.

[nustudent]

12 hours ago, Cazzie22 said:

Look what he did at Stephen F Austin.  The guy can coach.

 

I can name some guys at Butler, UTEP and Colorado State where it didn't translate

[Dead Dog Alley]

52 minutes ago, nustudent said:

 

I can name some guys at Butler, UTEP and Colorado State where it didn't translate

 

None of the guys you could mention had won an NCAA tournament game before they moved on, though.

[nustudent]

18 minutes ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

 

None of the guys you could mention had won an NCAA tournament game before they moved on, though.

 

John Groce did...howd he do at Illinois?

 

I think Underwood is a good coach.  Point is....it's not a guarantee

Edited March 19, 2017 by nustudent

[Dead Dog Alley]

13 minutes ago, nustudent said:

 

John Groce did...howd he do at Illinois?

 

I think Underwood is a good coach.  Point is....it's not a guarantee

 

True, but I'd take Groce's 96-75 record over 75-86.

[Norm Peterson]

4 hours ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

 

True, but I'd take Groce's 96-75 record over 75-86.

 

Sure, and I'd rather have the winning powerball than have a coach go 96-75.   Of course, neither of our comments has anything to do with what was being discussed.

Edited March 19, 2017 by Norm Peterson

[hskr4life]

36 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Sure, and I'd rather have the winning powerball than have a coach go 96-75.   Of course, neither of our comments has anything to do with what was being discussed.

 

But... aren't subtle shots at our coach a thing now?

[rwmctrofholz]

7 hours ago, nustudent said:

 

I can name some guys at Butler, UTEP and Colorado State where it didn't translate

 

 

[Cazzie22]

Underwood is taking the money.  Oklahoma State had him on the cheap last season.  Can he get Chicago kids to go down state?  If he can, the Illini will win.  Bill Self was on the verge of a championship there when KU opened.  

[swmckewon]

Underwood will have the same challenge Weber and Groce had - convincing one-and-done kids who can go and do go to Duke, Kansas and Kentucky to go to Illinois. 

 

I don't put him in the Izzo/Beilein class of coach, though. 

 

 

 

[gobigredbrah]

SFA had only been to a tourney once before Underwood got there. What he did there was unprecedented compared to groce at ohio, miles at csu

[colhusker]