uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin

1 hour ago, Silverbacked1 said:

Now that I am older and have time and some money I would like to go to some away games in this league.  But the more I hear about how visiting teams and fans are sometimes treated I’ll watch from home.

Road games are awesome. You can go see some cool cities for a fraction of the cost if going to an away football game.

I try to go to one every year or so. This year we decided to pass because how bad we had been doing.

HHC should pick a road game each year to go to (preferably iowa, NW or other drivable cities)

4 hours ago, brfrad said:

Big 10 tournament

 

Match-ups (what I expect)

 

1.Illinois vs. 8 Michigan/9 Indiana

4 Rutgers vs. 5 Iowa/12 Northwestern/13 Nebraska

3 Purdue vs. 6 Ohio State/11 Penn State/14 Minnesota

2 Wisconsin vs. 7 Michigan State/10 Maryland

 

NAILED IT

58 minutes ago, Handy Johnson said:

The drunkards in Wisconsin surely had delusions of a number one seed, that’s certainly GONE, and when their resume comes up beside their 3-4 number now I hope their “BAD” loss Nebraska is in big bright Red letters…

That's an awesome "side effect" of beating those stinkin' Badgers, besides the delicious tears of Brad Davison, that is. 

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

Notes

 

*-Nebraska has shot 50 percent or better in three of the past four games, including seven of the last eight halves. The games include three games against ranked teams.
 

Amazing what can be achieved when you figure out how to get the ball through the hoop.

Ok… I missed the Trey Flag 2.  After seeing the replay just a minute ago, I don’t know how one can take a “it was clearly intentional” stance.  Trey looked to me like he tried to stop his arm motion downward and his reaction when the player went down was “oh crap, you ok” accidental … more than “take that you POS” purposeful.  

24 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Ok… I missed the Trey Flag 2.  After seeing the replay just a minute ago, I don’t know how one can take a “it was clearly intentional” stance.  Trey looked to me like he tried to stop his arm motion downward and his reaction when the player went down was “oh crap, you ok” accidental … more than “take that you POS” purposeful.  

Those referees seemed to have had an agenda to get Wisky a dub and up their chances at a great seed to the Big Dance (if at all possible), and a lot of ppl realized during the B1G heist routine that this whole deal wasn't a veiled agenda. It was despicable.

48 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Ok… I missed the Trey Flag 2.  After seeing the replay just a minute ago, I don’t know how one can take a “it was clearly intentional” stance.  Trey looked to me like he tried to stop his arm motion downward and his reaction when the player went down was “oh crap, you ok” accidental … more than “take that you POS” purposeful.  

Also, Davis traveled...

7 hours ago, uneblinstu said:

Also, Davis traveled...

He traveled because he injured his leg before the layup attempt

15 hours ago, Handy Johnson said:

We’ll, I HATE to be they kind of guy who says “I told you so”… but, I told you so!

Well, I guess you are that kind of guy then

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

He traveled because he injured his leg before the layup attempt

That stinks and all, and I hope he's ok, but unless that's where they got the foul on Trey, and I don't believe it was, then they still need to call the travel, right?

Just finished watching the game this morning in my hotel room in frosty Tucumcari, New Mexico (16 degrees ) and I have a couple of thoughts.

1).  We were INCREDIBLY lucky to win that thing.  We should have, by all rights, lost by 25.  But we didn't and any win over Wisconsin and the shittiest fanbase in all of sports™ is a very welcome one.

2).  Maybe an unpopular opinion but I honestly didn't have much of a problem with the reffing in the game.  The block/charge call against Derrick was a bad one and they missed what should have been an over and back call on Wisconsin and didn't reverse the call where the ball clearly went off the Wisconsin dude's fingers...but other than that, not egregious IMO.  Yes Alonzo earned that T.

3).  Really like what I'm seeing, leadership wise, from our young guys.  Breidenbach and McPherson are both very active on the bench and engaged fully, and CJ is showing a lot of poise in games.  With those guys and Derrick coming back, that's a core that we could build on.  (But don't @  me @Norm Peterson I'm not sipping any kool aid.  We may still struggle next year to get over .500, I'm just saying these guys are starting to show signs of effort and knowing what the hell they are doing out there and that has me liking them a lot more as of late). But man we're gonna miss Verge something fierce I'm afraid.  Maybe we'll manage to pull an actual PG out of the transfer portal again this offseason.

7 minutes ago, uneblinstu said:

That stinks and all, and I hope he's ok, but unless that's where they got the foul on Trey, and I don't believe it was, then they still need to call the travel, right?

1).  They blew the whistle as soon as Trey tripped him.  It was a foul on Trey AND the F2 on the ensuing action.

2).  It wasn't a travel.

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

He traveled because he injured his leg before the layup attempt

Also why he wasn’t up at the rim where Trey expected him to be. Got him in the face adjusting to the unexpected lack of height.

5 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

1).  They blew the whistle as soon as Trey tripped him.  It was a foul on Trey AND the F2 on the ensuing action.

2).  It wasn't a travel.

I don’t know man, I’ve watched it like 50 times.  Trey runs by him and he looks like he tries to draw a foul and trips over his own feet, then takes 3 steps to the basket where trey comes down on him.  Trey is running across his legs, that doesn’t propel you forward like tripping on your own feet does.  I have no problem with the flagrant being called, I’ve seen plenty of plays like that in college and pro being called either a 1 or 2.  But I do think the trip that proceeded it was kind of weak.  

5 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

1).  They blew the whistle as soon as Trey tripped him.  It was a foul on Trey AND the F2 on the ensuing action.

2).  It wasn't a travel.

Yeah, you're right the foul was called on the trip.  They only shot the two F2 FTs because the foul was on the floor.

Could any of these guys played in the NBA in the 80’s?  I think that would have just been a play on.

12 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

1).  They blew the whistle as soon as Trey tripped him.  It was a foul on Trey AND the F2 on the ensuing action.

2).  It wasn't a travel.

1. No, they didn't. He took several steps before the whistle blew, he was already in the lane. Both were on their way up and it looked to me like Trey tried to pull back. He probably should have gotten an F1 for the play, but the F2 was excessive, I think.

2. But if they called the foul on the trip, then sure, that makes sense it wasn't a travel.

10 minutes ago, Keenan9595 said:

I don’t know man, I’ve watched it like 50 times.  Trey runs by him and he looks like he tries to draw a foul and trips over his own feet, then takes 3 steps to the basket where trey comes down on him.  Trey is running across his legs, that doesn’t propel you forward like tripping on your own feet does.  I have no problem with the flagrant being called, I’ve seen plenty of plays like that in college and pro being called either a 1 or 2.  But I do think the trip that proceeded it was kind of weak.  

It's not a travel though because he hadn't gathered the ball yet.  Once he got the ball in his hands he only took two steps.

2 minutes ago, uneblinstu said:

1. No, they didn't. He took several steps before the whistle blew, he was already in the lane. Both were on their way up and it looked to me like Trey tried to pull back. He probably should have gotten an F1 for the play, but the F2 was excessive, I think.

2. But if they called the foul on the trip, then sure, that makes sense it wasn't a travel.

They did.  Watch it again, the whistle blew immediately after he tripped.

9 hours ago, hskr4life said:

Ok… I missed the Trey Flag 2.  After seeing the replay just a minute ago, I don’t know how one can take a “it was clearly intentional” stance.  Trey looked to me like he tried to stop his arm motion downward and his reaction when the player went down was “oh crap, you ok” accidental … more than “take that you POS” purposeful.  

I agree 100%. I've watched it several times. IMO, it was the perfect storm for Trey. As he starts to attempt a LeBron-esque block off the backboard, Davis is stumbling, unintentionally starts to undercut Trey, who got super high. With nowhere to go, Trey attempts to readjust in mid-air, and awkwardly falls, throwing his arm forward to catch himself. 

Overall, what a tremendous and gutsy performance. These guys are playing so well! Let's see where this momentum can take us!

13 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

It's not a travel though because he hadn't gathered the ball yet.  Once he got the ball in his hands he only took two steps.

13 minutes ago, 49r said:

 

It's not a travel though because he hadn't gathered the ball yet.  Once he got the ball in his hands he only took two steps.

He picks it up with his first step, cradles it with his second step, starts to go up/falls with his 3rd step and then contact happens.  Definitely hard to see live and it’s non-reviewable but by the rules of the game that I know when I reffed high school ball 10 years ago that’s a travel.  It’s honestly a moot point, we won.  My only 2 real gripes other than the bad charge call reversal was when Derrick walker goes on the floor, gets possession of the ball and then has one of the 3 identical test tube babies that wisky has at center jump on top of his head leading with the forearm and they call a jump ball.  The other was at the end of the game when lat gets the rebound off of chucky’s miss and test tube baby number 2 clubs him so hard in the head he flies into Tominaga taking him out and then call a jump ball.  Everything else really was pretty bang bang and at home you are going to get a lot of those calls.

Sometimes it may seems like we only care about the refs when we lose.  Certifiably false after this game.

24 minutes ago, Keenan9595 said:

 

He picks it up with his first step, cradles it with his second step, starts to go up/falls with his 3rd step and then contact happens.  Definitely hard to see live and it’s non-reviewable but by the rules of the game that I know when I reffed high school ball 10 years ago that’s a travel.  It’s honestly a moot point, we won.  My only 2 real gripes other than the bad charge call reversal was when Derrick walker goes on the floor, gets possession of the ball and then has one of the 3 identical test tube babies that wisky has at center jump on top of his head leading with the forearm and they call a jump ball.  The other was at the end of the game when lat gets the rebound off of chucky’s miss and test tube baby number 2 clubs him so hard in the head he flies into Tominaga taking him out and then call a jump ball.  Everything else really was pretty bang bang and at home you are going to get a lot of those calls.

Yes, probably by the letter of the rules it could be called you're right.  But they haven't called traveling like that in forever so it's whatever to me.

But you're right about the Derrick body slam...that was almost as bad as Grant Gibbs.

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Yeah, you're right the foul was called on the trip.  They only shot the two F2 FTs because the foul was on the floor.

Are you implying that 45 feet of continuation is too much?  Surely he was gathering to shoot at midcourt.